47 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I will take experienced, street smart/common sense smart over book smart 7 days a week and twice on Sundays. That is a dying breed. We are all doomed, thank goodness we should all be dead before we see the end. 

Depends on the industry. I want my doctor, surgeon, financial advisor, or the engineer who designed the airplane I'm flying on to be pretty damn smart when it comes to the book and topic. I couldn't care less how street smart they are or if they're awkward when it comes to social interactions. 

Now if I'm managing a sales team or something that has to do with being able to read and communicate with people on a daily basis, then sure, street smarts, basic psychology, and understanding how to communicate with people comes into play and is probably just as or more important than book smarts. 

I'd point out to you Chris Simms fans, that he's a Howie believer.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/chris-simms-eagles-biggest-rebuild-football

25 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Dude, I admire your work ethic and going for higher paying jobs.  I did too.  And when I initially heard the terms white privilege and gender privilege, I bristled at that because I worked hard for everything I got.  Bet you did too.  But when you say 9 out of 10 people can do what you did, you are blinded by your denominator.  I can be too.  I was talking reparations with someone this past summer.  I heard the oft repeated inaccurate statement that the wealth of this country was built on the labor of slaves.  Not really, but I digress.  But some opportunities my dad had and that I had, I recognize others did not because of the color of their skin or their gender.  It doesn’t lessen what we have accomplished and it doesn’t mean that we didn’t earn everything we did.  But it does mean that the Customer Service job you sought and received might not have been available to others.  Doesn’t mean you didn’t earn it.  It means you could earn it, that’s all.  

I will give you an example.  My first job as a manager in my chosen profession, I was up against three women.  I was possibly the most qualified, although not the most experienced and from my success afterwards, I think I proved myself.  I also believe that being a married man gave me a step up.  I can also assure you that if a person of color was in the running, I would have had a step up too.  Back then, at least in the South, there was always a question about how the team would respond to a woman boss or a minority boss.  That was in the mid 1980s but the majority of management level people were white married men who had started work in the 1950s and 1960s.  Well, if those people were promoting managers in the 1980s and 1990s, it is only logical to conclude the ceilings remained in place well into this millennium.

Don’t lose any pride in your accomplishments, I haven’t, but recognize that not everyone had the same opportunities. 

I appreciate you talking it out, I really do.  I'm going to counter you and tell you that I lost out on a promotion to an under qualified African American woman with a known record ($35k+ in SNAP fraud), proven to lack any budget responsibilities and an enormous sense of entitlement because of her color, all in the name of diversity.  There was no hiding the reason either.  So much that my boss wouldn't even make eye contact with me from there on out.  I've since left that job for better opportunities. 

In the examples I gave you (all part-time jobs while in school) I can tell you that every race and gender were represented, I had 2 AA managers at my big box store where I went for customer service.  Both of those men worked and earned our respect as managers just as the white male and white female managers did.  The option to work in customer service was extended to all in the store....we had white, black, hispanic and Asian in our store.  Only me and one other girl stepped forward.  

When I was in the freezer picking food part-time, we have a very diverse team.  It was actually incredible to watch the Hispanic guys cruise through their quota in half the time needed and then pick up more as OT.  Some of those food pickers are making close to $30 when all is said and done.  It all depends on your work ethic.  They could have gone through the paces and collected their checks.  Nope, they busted it to get theirs.  And let me tell you, driving a pallet jack in freezing temperatures with 2 pallets of frozen food is not easy to do, especially at fast speeds.  They did circles around me while my pallets tipped over.  

I'm not belittling what slavery was, but in 2021, white privilege is a myth.   Economic/social class privilege is a different story however.  Just like you can't help what skin color you're born with you also can't help who is bringing you into this world.  Where I grew up there were lots of trailer parks (white trash as we're allowed to say without a 2nd thought).  Those kids had the same uphill battle as any minority growing up in a poorer area.  When I got to prep school and college that's where I met plenty of AA who came from higher social classes and were doing great for themselves.  Most of them now are also doing great professionally.  

You're going to stand your ground and I'm going to stand mine.  While there are struggles, work ethic, drive and persistence are some of the best qualities to have to help you get where you want to be.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I'd point out to you Chris Simms fans, that he's a Howie believer.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/chris-simms-eagles-biggest-rebuild-football

No one said he was perfect. We said he was good at evaluating talented football players  not GMs 

17 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Brand new Richie Grant highlight vid. 

 

Yeah I’m getting impressed the more I watch him. 

17 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And so it begins

Oh Howie....

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Lets Bobby Bonilla this and slap on Dummy Years until 2035!!

It is gonna be funny when all the folks who went on about all the 2022 cap room we are going to have, after these restructures start rolling in, gonna really open up some eyes about the problems.

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lol If you believe Giroux is as good as those players you are in denial. He’s nowhere close to Sidney Crosby who has carried the penguins in multiple playoffs to titles whereas Giroux has come up small since 2012 in that department  

Additionally you’re talking about giroux five year stretch (10-11 to 2014-15) includes the three years when Crosby dealt with injuries/concussions. even with Giroux playing 121 more games during that span of time then Crosby only had 29 more points than Crosby (376-347).  So it took Giroux 121 more games during that span to get 29 more points than Crosby. And yet you think he’s on the same level as that guy. Additionally Crosby has 6 100 point seasons  and 10 80+ point seasons. Giroux has 1 100 point season and 4 80+ point seasons 

meanwhile Alexander Ovechkin his worst season in scoring goals would be Giroux’s second best total. Add on Ovechkin worse five year stretch and goals is an average of 41 goals. And that includes a shortened season as to why it’s not higher. So something that Giroux has never done which is score 40 goals was his lowest average over a five-year stretch. You’ll see well he’s not a goal score well in my opinion you can’t be a superstar if you can’t score goals like a superstar can and does. I’ll also point out ovechkin has 4 100+ point seasons and 9 80+ point seasons  

Kane is really the closest Giroux is to those 3 players. Giroux like with Crosby played 36 more games during that 5 year stretch where he was better than Kane. Kane had 49 points less. There’s a chance Kane comes close to catching Giroux meanwhile he also won multiple cups as one of the main catalysts. Additionally the five year stretch after that Giroux 49 point difference, kane obliterates Giroux 465 in points to 371. It’s not even close and Kane missed same amount of time over that span as Giroux. Kane has 2 100 point seasons and 5 80+ point seasons. Meanwhile Giroux has 1 100 point season and 4 80+ point season  

I can bring in playoff stats if you’d also like. Crosby 1.2 points per game. Ovechkin .971 point per game. Kane .971 point per game. Giroux is .86 points per game. Giroux is actually skewed because of his early career success. His last 35 playoff games basically since 2013 he has got 18 points which is .514 points per game. Heck even if i gave you his 2011-2012 playoffs which was 10 games and his best point per game average he’s at .77 points per game which is well below those three  

best five year stretch in points in each of those guys Career: kane 465, Crosby 506, ovechkin 529 and Giroux 386. 

The only people on this planet that believe Giroux is as good as Crosby and ovechkin are die hard Flyers fans that can’t admit he’s in the next tier below those guys. Meanwhile the rest of the world acknowledges he’s a very good player but not on those two guys level. Sad part is most flyers fans say you don’t appreciate him and he’s that good. No we appreciate him just gone. we’re just open to the idea they’re better players in the NHL than him. 

You literally said he was never on the level of those players, you were wrong. In his prime he was a top 5 player in the NHL and the numbers back that. You're going to blame him for not dragging a team with no defense and no goalie to the playoffs? Do you even remember who we had on defense in those years? Meszaros? Manning? Medvedev? Remember those guys? Who were the goaltenders? 

You can pretend all you want he was never elite. That's why people say he is unappreciated. This guy was a top 5 player and fans like you act like he has never been more than above average.

28 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Can make fun of him the player but someone posted his rankings of QBs the last 3 years and he’s been spot on 

Here are his rankings for 2019:

2019

1. Kyler Murray

2. Drew Lock

3. Dwayne Haskins

4. Ryan Finley

5. Jarrett Stidham

6. Daniel Jones

7. Clayton Thorson

8. Will Grier  

 

Where's Minshew? 

18 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I'd point out to you Chris Simms fans, that he's a Howie believer.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/chris-simms-eagles-biggest-rebuild-football

+1 my take

1 hour ago, devpool said:

You literally said he was never on the level of those players, you were wrong. In his prime he was a top 5 player in the NHL and the numbers back that. You're going to blame him for not dragging a team with no defense and no goalie to the playoffs? Do you even remember who we had on defense in those years? Meszaros? Manning? Medvedev? Remember those guys? Who were the goaltenders? 

You can pretend all you want he was never elite. That's why people say he is unappreciated. This guy was a top 5 player and fans like you act like he has never been more than above average.

Lol youre delusional. It took him to be on those guys’ level Crosby missing 121 games, Kane missing half a season of games just to be just slightly ahead of them. Convenient you don’t mention that when you say he finished ahead of them. Meanwhile points per game he was still behind Crosby during that time  

let me re-iterate what my original point was in Crosby, ovechkin and Kane’s primes he was not close to their levels in his prime  

Crosby 5 best year window: 509 points 

Kane best 5 year window: 465 points 

ovechkin best 5 year window: 529 points 

Giroux best five year window: 386 points 

Yeah Giroux really close to those guys in their prime years vs. his prime years.... mathematically that’s 79 points, 123 points and 143 points he was behind them  

we can go a step further. Let’s just use the 5 best years of each of their careers

kane: 477 points  (missed double digits games) and 1.21 points per game

crosby: 538 points (missed double digit games) and 1.35 points per game

ovechkin: 529 (missed double digit games) and 1.34 points per game

giroux: 442 points (missed 5 games) and 1.09 points per game 

so the only one he’s close to is Kane and it’s a 35 point difference. if Kane played those games it’s likely a larger gap. The other two he’s 96 points and 87 and they played less games then Giroux. That’s why those guys ovechkin and Crosby were superstars in their primes and he’s a star  

there’s more. let’s go to Giroux’s first full season in the league 13 years ago. Guess who are the top 3 point getters are? You guessed it ovechkin, Crosby and Kane. Crosby played 100 less games then Giroux and nearly everyone and has the most. Crosby (791 games) 987 points, ovechkin (924 games) 985 points and Kane (914 games) 984 points. Meanwhile Giroux sits 8th at 829 points (904 games). So yes those guys I’d consider better. Even if you did the 2010s guess who the top 3 guys are? Kane, Crosby and ovechkin. Giroux is 4th by played way more games then Crosby and half a season more than Kane  

again you are the flyers fan that thinks prime Giroux was on their level when they were at their peaks. And he only was when those guys had down type of years due to injuries besides ovechkin who was still scoring 50 goals. Wow impressive when those guys were at their peaks for a 5 year stretch against Giroux best five year stretches they way eclipsed Giroux’s best numbers (386) by 79, 100+ Points and 100+ points

Where did i say above average? I said he was a star/very good just not a superstar like those guys. I know cause it’s right there in the first paragraph you quoted me. Conveniently you decide to make the narrative i said he was above average. Legitimate i wrote very good and I’d say a star in the first quoted you used 

In your mind he’s apparently a superstar but we use the excuse it’s everyone else’s fault for him not performing in the postseason since 2012. Interesting so he’s a superstar thats underperforms cause of everyone else. There’s the possibility that better talented players early and not having the pressure of being THE GUY helped him more than you think in those runs. Not being the top line or the guy yet definitely helped cause when he became THE GUY and the captain he has yet to come close to those numbers. And it’s not a small dip in numbers. These are dramatically big dropoff. before becoming captain in January 2013 played 50 playoff games had 56 points. Since becoming captain 18 points in 35 games. But i forgot it’s everyyyyyyyone else But Giroux for that. Naw some of this is directly on Giroux 

I just gave you a ton of stats proving hes overall not on their level in his and their primes.  yet you still ignore it all cause a 5 year stretch due to circumstances of injuries for two of those guys. Maybe it’s you, not everyone else who says he was very good/star just not Crosby, ovechkin and even Kane in their primes. I’m betting you probably think Giroux is which is laughable. I’m sorry Giroux is a star/very good player but in his prime he wasn’t what Crosby, ovechkin and Kane were in their primes (5 year windows you like to talk about they blow his numbers out of the water). 

19 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I appreciate you talking it out, I really do.  I'm going to counter you and tell you that I lost out on a promotion to an under qualified African American woman with a known record ($35k+ in SNAP fraud), proven to lack any budget responsibilities and an enormous sense of entitlement because of her color, all in the name of diversity.  There was no hiding the reason either.  So much that my boss wouldn't even make eye contact with me from there on out.  I've since left that job for better opportunities. 

In the examples I gave you (all part-time jobs while in school) I can tell you that every race and gender were represented, I had 2 AA managers at my big box store where I went for customer service.  Both of those men worked and earned our respect as managers just as the white male and white female managers did.  The option to work in customer service was extended to all in the store....we had white, black, hispanic and Asian in our store.  Only me and one other girl stepped forward.  

When I was in the freezer picking food part-time, we have a very diverse team.  It was actually incredible to watch the Hispanic guys cruise through their quota in half the time needed and then pick up more as OT.  Some of those food pickers are making close to $30 when all is said and done.  It all depends on your work ethic.  They could have gone through the paces and collected their checks.  Nope, they busted it to get theirs.  And let me tell you, driving a pallet jack in freezing temperatures with 2 pallets of frozen food is not easy to do, especially at fast speeds.  They did circles around me while my pallets tipped over.  

I'm not belittling what slavery was, but in 2021, white privilege is a myth.   Economic/social class privilege is a different story however.  Just like you can't help what skin color you're born with you also can't help who is bringing you into this world.  Where I grew up there were lots of trailer parks (white trash as we're allowed to say without a 2nd thought).  Those kids had the same uphill battle as any minority growing up in a poorer area.  When I got to prep school and college that's where I met plenty of AA who came from higher social classes and were doing great for themselves.  Most of them now are also doing great professionally.  

You're going to stand your ground and I'm going to stand mine.  While there are struggles, work ethic, drive and persistence are some of the best qualities to have to help you get where you want to be.

All I'll say about this is anecdotal experience does not outweigh researched conclusions.

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Here are his rankings for 2019:

2019

1. Kyler Murray

2. Drew Lock

3. Dwayne Haskins

4. Ryan Finley

5. Jarrett Stidham

6. Daniel Jones

7. Clayton Thorson

8. Will Grier  

 

Where's Minshew? 

+1 my take

I mean I’d argue he got the top 2 QBs. Drew lock imo is more likely to succeed than jones. Both aren’t good. And Murray was the best. The rest are all basically bums. He had jones six and jones sucks so he got that right. So jones was the best of the bums he still thought he wouldn’t be very good and he’s not 

31 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I'd point out to you Chris Simms fans, that he's a Howie believer.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/chris-simms-eagles-biggest-rebuild-football

In that case Simms is an idiot

We should make Howie the starting QB in 2021

Rejoins Anthony Lynn

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Rejoins Anthony Lynn

That's higher than I thought he would get.  Potential weapon for Goff.

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Rejoins Anthony Lynn

 

 

I saw it speculated in some article recently about the Eagles trying to sign him as a veteran WR.  Glad it didn't happen.  Let the young guys play. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

That's higher than I thought he would get.  Potential weapon for Goff.

Don’t worry Goff won’t use him to his strengths. 

Seems high for a guy who missed all year and is in a free agency with a diminishing cap. He has a good agent.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Seems high for a guy who missed all year and is in a free agency with a diminishing cap. He has a good agent.

And it's a pretty strong veteran WR class.  Ju-Ju is probably thinking he can get an Amari Cooper contract.

The advantages of being released, unlike being a free agent, are immense.

- You get to negotiate 1st
- You don't count against the comp pick formula
- You can sign right away

Someone commented on minimum wage.  The problem with raising it too high is that the sustainability of it for companies of a certain size will make review the cost of human employment vs automation of that job and assess what is best for them in the long term. With the addition of smarter, cheaper and quicker technology, you don't need as many people to work on the counter in McDonald's. Nor do you necessarily need them to flip a burger.  Machines don't go out for a cigarette or need a toilet break or gossip about Howie Roseman being an awful GM.

And small businesses will struggle to pay it, especially come out of a pandemic.

The likes of AOC need to be careful what they wish for.  I'm not saying it's right to keep wages lower than idealism, but that's the reality.

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Someone commented on minimum wage.  The problem with raising it too high is that the sustainability of it for companies of a certain size will make review the cost of human employment vs automation of that job and assess what is best for them in the long term. With the addition of smarter, cheaper and quicker technology, you don't need as many people to work on the counter in McDonald's. Nor do you necessarily need them to flip a burger.  

It's 2021. If companies could have easily automated those jobs, they would have already. It's not linked to minimum wage, but feasibility. 

Look at truck drivers. That's a job that's most likely going to be automated in 20 years, yet they earn more than minimum wage. It's also one of the largest industries in the U.S. In this case, automation is a function of technology not cost. 

Can you live on 7.25 per hour ?

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

Who's view do I value more Merrill Reese a well known Eagles insider with over 43 years or John_C on the eagles message board? That's a tough one. 

Ill go with Ray Didinger since we seam to always be on the same page. Sorry John, no QB for you in round 1. Check back in 2022. 

Love Merrill, and Ray... if they had inside info or based in on what they were hearing, it would be different.  What they think should happen, probably should happen, as they are much, much smarter than the people we have making decisions now.  But it doesn't mean it is what WILL happen.  What will happen is the Factory is going to take a QB.  I suspect this won't be a popular decision, and I see most mocks with the Eagles taking a position player... so I will come on and remind from time to time.

I haven't cared less about what the Eagles will do in any draft I can remember.  Going back a very long time.  Because I don't think it matters.  The team isn't going to change and improve until the owner accepts accountability for destroying the team post 2017 and steps aside in a meaningful way to empower someone else.  And his lackey must finally be given the opportunity to search for a new job.  May his privilege guide and help him.

Even less interesting is free agents.  On a terrible team with so little talent and no cap room, who the hell cares who they sign as free agents?  They need to figure out how to draft before that becomes relevant again.

Just now, RLC said:

It's 2021. If companies could have easily automated those jobs, they would have already. It's not linked to minimum wage, but feasibility. 

Look at truck drivers. That's a job that's most likely going to be automated in 20 years, yet they earn more than minimum wage. It's also one of the largest industries in the U.S. In this case, automation is a function of technology not cost. 

If you raise the wage to a certain level, then the cost/benefit of automation becomes an easier investment for firms. It's less change, less work in store etc to stay as is, but especially if you are publically traded, it becomes trickier where shareholder value is considered.

Younger generations see nothing wrong in ordering a Macs on an app, getting it delivered to a table (or home) and leaving the store without the need to talk to anyone.  My Gran's generation would be horrified.  The times, they are a changin