2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Should we start an Eagles FA thread ???  Oh that's right, the weasel destroyed the Eagles cap situation and we will not be involved in any FA's worth having a thread about.

When was the last time the team signed a really good FA? 

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

i think we will add a DE in the draft rather than a cheap vet. BG, Sweat, Barnett, Draft pick.

Overdrafting for a DE is the Howie special. 

9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Are we under the cap? Last I checked we are still around $17M over. 

They still have not updated after the Brooks and Graham restructures, but the numbers I have heard should have the Eagles barely under the cap.  I am more curious the ramifications on the 2022 cap situation.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We have 1 corner.  1 worth a damn.  1 safety worth a damn.  Who will not be ready to start the season.  The little FA flexibility we have, better be spent on the secondary.  

Not sure if that’s even true. Mcleod coming off an acl and in his 30s might never be the same. Wallace has proven nothing. Mills is a FA. And Epps and Arnold are backups. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

When was the last time the team signed a really good FA? 

Overdrafting for a DE is the Howie special. 

Do you mean good like 2017 with a bunch of value guys or a top of the end FA? 

10 hours ago, Thrive said:

 

I have said this in the past but this is an illustration of it.  Hurts puts passes where the receiver can get YAC.  Look at him lead the receiver the direction he is going.  Wentz was not as good at that.  One of the things that has always been something I liked about Tom Brady’s game was ball placement. It is one of the things I like about Hurts, now if he could only read the play like Brady.  Night and day on that.

23 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Basically a 2 year deal for 34.5 million, makes him 8th highest paid guy off the edge 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

When was the last time the team signed a really good FA? 

 

Sans the 2017 group...

T.O. 

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We have 1 corner.  1 worth a damn.  1 safety worth a damn.  Who will not be ready to start the season.  The little FA flexibility we have, better be spent on the secondary.  

its a good db draft - i think we take at least two and likely 3

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I like Barnett but he really isn’t worth $10 per. He is solid but also been injured nearly every season in his four years. I think they let him play it out like agholor and unless he blows up this year let him walk. I tend to think they rather a long term deal with sweat even with his knee condition 

I don't know, if Romeo Okwara is worth $13 million a year, maybe Barnett is worth $10 million. Of course, with Barnett whatever extension he signs better be loaded with funny money anyway so the AAV doesn't matter.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not sure if that’s even true. Mcleod coming off an acl and in his 30s might never be the same. Wallace has proven nothing. Mills is a FA. And Epps and Arnold are backups. 

He already took a step back after tearing his MCL. I’m not counting on much after the ACL.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Mills isn’t even a good football player. 

Agreed 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

They still have not updated after the Brooks and Graham restructures, but the numbers I have heard should have the Eagles barely under the cap.  I am more curious the ramifications on the 2022 cap situation.

Yeah it’s not a one year blip. Getting cap compliant might be but that blip is going to affect your 2022 cap due to the extensions and restructures. So where you had a nice chunk of cap space you are taking it away doing what they had to do to get cap compliant. They are likely once again going to be bottom 10 if not worse in the league in cap space especially if you also figure in trying to extend Sanders, goedert, Barnett and sweat long term this year so they don’t reach FA where you likely don’t get them at a price you want. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not sure if that’s even true. Mcleod coming off an acl and in his 30s might never be the same. Wallace has proven nothing. Mills is a FA. And Epps and Arnold are backups. 

i'd love to double dip at safety early and later

Moehring is my ideal 2nd rounder but i think he goes late first

6 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I think the headline should be....Jalen Hurts has posted more videos of himself working out than any other Eagles player this offseason.  I would hope and think that every player on the roster is working every day to get better during the offseason.  Their "job" during the offseason is to work out, eat right and hone their skills.  

Could just as easily say, Greg Ward is constantly putting in work.  I'd also argue that running routes in the hot sun is probably a little bit more tiring than taking a 3 and 5 step drops and tossing the ball to 1 uncovered man.  Not taking ANYTHING away from Jalen Hurts, I'm glad he's out there throwing the ball but come on John Clark...are we going to see these once a week?

Now, show me the whole D-line together again, show me Lane Johnson hosting a bunch of guys at his gym and show me when Hurts has all the wideouts together.  That's content that would get me more fired up for this team....not weekly updates of 2 guys playing catch. 

I am fine with Clark posting pictures of Hurts working with the receivers every day.  Timing and familiarity are key towards improving.  And I am not surprised at all that Greg Ward is out there working with him.  Ward was that kind of player at UH, constantly working on improving.   I bet if they told Greg they wanted him to be the gunner on punt coverage teams, he would buy a tackling dummy and work on it every day.  

4 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I don't know, if Romeo Okwara is worth $13 million a year, maybe Barnett is worth $10 million. Of course, with Barnett whatever extension he signs better be loaded with funny money anyway so the AAV doesn't matter.

Okwara had 19 sacks in his last 3 years. Barnett has had 19.5 for his career in 4 years. Frankly i don’t think either is worth that. just so happens okwara after a 1.5 sack season where he played 14 games blew up with 10 sacks. Not that sacks are everything but i wouldn’t give okwara that contract either. 

18 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Are we under the cap? Last I checked we are still around $17M over. 

Graham extension + Brooks/Elliott restructure did it.

3 minutes ago, What The F said:

Sans the 2017 group...

T.O. 

There’s some really good in between. Brooks, Jenkins, Samuel, Weaver.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Okwara had 19 sacks in his last 3 years. Barnett has had 19.5 for his career in 4 years. Frankly i don’t think either is worth that. just so happens okwara after a 1.5 sack season where he played 14 games blew up with 10 sacks. Not that sacks are everything but i wouldn’t give okwara that contract either. 

FWIW Okwara is also a little over one year older than Barnett 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He already took a step back after tearing his MCL. I’m not counting on much after the ACL.

It’s amazing they neglected drafting the position for years knowing jenkins was declining and McLeod was aging and his cap number was increasing. They went from Ed Reynolds all the way to wallace without selecting a safety to play safety. 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah it’s not a one year blip. Getting cap compliant might be but that blip is going to affect your 2022 cap due to the extensions and restructures. So where you had a nice chunk of cap space you are taking it away doing what they had to do to get cap compliant. They are likely once again going to be bottom 10 if not worse in the league in cap space especially if you also figure in trying to extend Sanders, goedert, Barnett and sweat long term this year so they don’t reach FA where you likely don’t get them at a price you want. 

Already shaved 30 million off the 2022 cap doing these restructures, and that is before we see the Brooks and Graham numbers.

16 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We have 1 corner.  1 worth a damn.  1 safety worth a damn.  Who will not be ready to start the season.  The little FA flexibility we have, better be spent on the secondary.  

Thats been my hope, I just don't think Howie/Lurie will see it the same way

45 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Never got that answer,  who was the 9ers GM after Gamble ??

John Lynch. And his 4 year record?  6-10, 4-12, 13-3, 6-10.

Would you be happy if Howie has that record the next four seasons?

Just now, downundermike said:

Already shaved 30 million off the 2022 cap doing these restructures, and that is before we see the Brooks and Graham numbers.

It’s why i rolled my eyes when they called it a one year blip. It was a one year blip to get cap compliant but it was ultimately going to affect your cap in 2022. since you got yourself into this mess and the only way to get out of it was to restructure some deals and try to trade some guys away if you were going for a complete rebuild (such as trading slay however they were never going to do that cause it would have to eat pride in trading slay away a year after making the deal and admitting that they shouldn’t have done it knowing they needed a rebuild then but ignored it). 

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

John Lynch. And his 4 year record?  6-10, 4-12, 13-3, 6-10.

Would you be happy if Howie has that record the next four seasons?

Not the point.  They went from Gamble, to Lynch, a football guy.  And the #1 defense you use, they went to a Superbowl with Lynch as GM.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He already took a step back after tearing his MCL. I’m not counting on much after the ACL.

another waste of an extension and Wallace showed next to nothing last year. This team could use two new starters at S plus a strong #3. This secondary and linebacking core needs a total rebuild except for our way overpaid 30 year old CB who can't shut down the leagues best...