29 minutes ago, Nivraga said:

Take off the handcuffs and it's not a dead investment. The postal service used to provide some banking services too. Probably not necessary today with the advent of virtual/online banking but it shouldn't be prohibited. If the government allowed the usps to profit they would. 

If your goal is too ensure the public has a inexpensive alternative shipping solution then its absurd to complain about the overall cost.

No its not bc the pension liabilities are a huge unnecessary burden on tax paying citizens for menial labor

2 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Their HC told the starters not to show up , he  just wanted the young guys and non starters there , 

why they worked out at one buc place , Brady worked out with starters  across the street at the Yankees practice field ,Brady’s long time trainer was there 

starters not showing up was HCs decision 

the whole team showed up yesterday .

 

Breer spoke with Bucs center Ryan Jensen and got details of the workouts in a follow-up story this morning. Apparently the workouts are overseen by Brady’s long-time personal trainer, Alex Guerrero.

"Tom’s done it for long enough and he always has his trainer there,” Jensen says. "When I was there, I was just snapping him the ball. But with all the guys running routes, Alex would always be there. Obviously he’s there for Tom, but he’s also watching the receivers run, and he noticed when they started to get tired. And when skill guys get tired, and their legs turn to jelly, that’s when they start pulling muscles.

"That’s when Alex would be like, O.K., he’s done, he’s done, he’s done—you’ve had enough work. That’s huge having Tom there, who has all that experience, running the practice, running the routes. And then you have Alex there, who’s been with Tom for a lot of years and recognizes those things, to help prevent guys from getting hurt.”

Jensen praised Arians for looking out for the players and being flexible and willing to work with Brady on setting up the workouts.

Jensen also told Breer that he felt a lot better physically last year because there was basically no offseason, no preseason and a shortened training camp.

Per the NFLPA by way of Breer, injuries in the NFL were down 23 percent, concussions were down 30 percent and there was a 45 percent decrease in heat-related illnesses in 2020. Yet points were up last year and penalties were down.

 

…and the football product was ugly.

But I guess since we are all willing to still pay for a watered down product, it doesn’t really matter.

10 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Fletcher Cox, BG and Slay.

There are literally photos of BG and Slay at OTAs on the team’s website. And if I check now, I’d find some of Cox as well.

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

What can we get for Fletcher and is there any one out there close to winning that has the cap space.  I feel like having him as the main guy wont help us one bit but he could go be a 1b guy and do some damage. we're also so far away that I'll take the draft picks 

Not many teams have a DT better than Cox, even at his age.  The issue, however, is that most teams have a pass rusher, somewhere in their defense, who is much more disruptive than Cox. Cox is being paid like that pass rusher, if not better.  And our defense is leaning on him to be our primary disruptor.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Thrive said:

…and the football product was ugly.

But I guess since we are all willing to still pay for a watered down product, it doesn’t really matter.

I find it hard to believe penalties were down also, can barely watch 5 consecutive minutes of a game without seeing a penalty.

Eagles not the only ones competing.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Eagles not the only ones competing.

 

 

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Cowboys suck

26 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Eagles not the only ones competing.

 

 

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Knew you were a Cowboys fan 

14 hours ago, Utebird said:

I agree the worst is if he looks just ok, if he looks awful easy decision, if he looks awesome easy decision, if he's average then what???

Kirk cousins is the definition of ave and the dude keeps getting paid and starting so who knows.

Ryan tennenhill was an abject failure in Miami put him in Tenn with a run heavy run first offense and he's thrived.

Whereas you had a guy like trubisky who showed some flashes here And there but got a longer rope than normal because he was a first rounder and we all know how Howie has shown to out his own ego over the team so would Howie give hurts a lot of rope???

Kirk Cousins has surpassed 4000 yards, and 25 TD's almost every year he started 16 games, 2019 he didn't pass 4000 yards but still went past 25 TD's, I'm not saying he's Aaron Rodgers, but he's better than 'average', and before anyone pulls out Diggs and Thielen, the first 3 years he did it with Josh Doctson, Jamison Crowder and Pierre Garcon in Washington, I'd take Hurts being as statistically average as Cousin's all day, hell if Wentz could've managed Cousin's average consistently he'd still be here. Cousin's biggest problem is his lack of natural authority and leadership, even angry he's like a snarky puppy, but the constant talking down he gets compared to Wentz honestly baffles me.

Good conversation between Jason Avant and Quintin Mikell about the OTA/Mini Camp questions that I've been raising.  Starts around 10:00 mark.  

 

 

 

41 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Good conversation between Jason Avant and Quintin Mikell about the OTA/Mini Camp questions that I've been raising.  Starts around 10:00 mark.  

 

 

Some good points why OTAs really don't matter, if you're not practicing 11 on 11 with pads, it's just drills anyway.

So focusing on fundamentals in June is probably more important than 7 on 7 drills.

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Agree,

Average in this league is that 14-20 range ranking wise and Kirk Cousin constantly is in the lower half of the top 10. 

This is why I like QBR as a check on QB ratings.

QBR: 2020 (18), 2019 (13), 2018 (15), 2017 (16), 2016 (6), 2015 (6),

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Some good points why OTAs really don't matter, if you're not practicing 11 on 11 with pads, it's just drills anyway.

So focusing on fundamentals in June is probably more important than 7 on 7 drills.

They make good points on both sides.  Sorry, NOT doing 11 on 11 or 7 on 7 isn't better for the team.  Reps matter.  Avant told us why from an offensive standpoint he didn't like them but Mikell also told us why he did.

If the Eagles were doing 11 on 11 and 7 on 7, would you say why are they doing them they are just pointless?

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

They make good points on both sides.  Sorry, NOT doing 11 on 11 or 7 on 7 isn't better for the team.  Reps matter.  Avant told us why from an offensive standpoint he didn't like them but Mikell also told us why he did.

If the Eagles were doing 11 on 11 and 7 on 7, would you say why are they doing them they are just pointless?

Dude...no one is saying 11v11 or 7v7 are bad.  It's just that this offseason had an unusual set of circumstances.  The team decided that maximal participation in teaching, installing, and other types of on-field coaching was worth the trade off of a few days of 11v11.

It was the best bad idea.

 

Ben Simmons should give us Eagles fan hope. If a guy who can’t shoot a basketball can be an NBA All Star, maybe a QB who can’t throw can become a Pro Bowler in the NFL..

😳

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Dude...no one is saying 11v11 or 7v7 are bad.  It's just that this offseason had an unusual set of circumstances.  The team decided that maximal participation in teaching, installing, and other types of on-field coaching was worth the trade off of a few days of 11v11.

It was the best bad idea.

 

I get it but my problem is those circumstances that this team brought on themselves.  Again, I look at the best teams in the league who were dealt the same circumstances and handled them differently.  I blame both the players and the coaches.  The veteran players for being selfish and Sirianni for caving to player demands/negotiating with them.  I'm old school but I understand that Sirianni probably wanted to come in and be a players coach.  I much rather would have had him come in and say this is how the Philadelphia Eagles are doing things.  If you aren't on board, so be it.  There are young players who would gladly take your position.  

You do have some on here acting like 7on 7 and 11 on 11 are a waste of time and I don't understand that mindset.

Just now, blindside said:

Ben Simmons should give us Eagles fan hope. Of a guy who can’t shoot a basketball can be an NBA All Star, maybe a QB who can’t throw can become a Pro Bowler in the NFL..

😳

It would be a bad look if Hurts was in the running for NFL Defensive POY.

 

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I get it but my problem is those circumstances that this team brought on themselves.  Again, I look at the best teams in the league who were dealt the same circumstances and handled them differently.  I blame both the players and the coaches.  The veteran players for being selfish and Sirianni for caving to player demands/negotiating with them.  I'm old school but I understand that Sirianni probably wanted to come in and be a players coach.  I much rather would have had him come in and say this is how the Philadelphia Eagles are doing things.  If you aren't on board, so be it.  There are young players who would gladly take your position.  

You do have some on here acting like 7on 7 and 11 on 11 are a waste of time and I don't understand that mindset.

They aren't a waste of time, I don't think anybody has said that. But it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be. Sirianni doesn't come across as a hard ass at all, so I'd think it'd be out of character for him to draw battle lines immediately. Doug Pederson ran 11v11 and 7v7s and his teams looked insanely unprepared every week. 

12 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

QBR doesnt account for the talent around you, lack there of or your play caller. 

Case Keenum has had multiple top 10 QBR finishes.   Think Eli and Blake Bortles finished 2-3 one year. lol. (I know both had  top 3 finishes). 

 

Wrong. He had 1.

2020 - DNQ (Rating 42)

2019 - DNQ (Rating 45.6)

2018 - 29th (44.5)

2017 - 2nd (72.8)

2016 - 30 (37.5)

2015 - Not enough to qualify, but his rating was 34.8

2014 - Not enough to quailfy (didn't even get a rating)

2013 - Not enough to qualify, rating was 48.6

 

Funny how his best WRs were in Minny, where he had his best year. 

Yet Cousins best years were in Washington, when he had "lesser" talent.

Cousins is a stat padder, but will never win a big game. He's absolutely average, and the type of QB that keeps your team competitive every year, but never good enough to go far into the playoffs. 

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Kirk Cousins has surpassed 4000 yards, and 25 TD's almost every year he started 16 games, 2019 he didn't pass 4000 yards but still went past 25 TD's, I'm not saying he's Aaron Rodgers, but he's better than 'average', and before anyone pulls out Diggs and Thielen, the first 3 years he did it with Josh Doctson, Jamison Crowder and Pierre Garcon in Washington, I'd take Hurts being as statistically average as Cousin's all day, hell if Wentz could've managed Cousin's average consistently he'd still be here. Cousin's biggest problem is his lack of natural authority and leadership, even angry he's like a snarky puppy, but the constant talking down he gets compared to Wentz honestly baffles me.

How many games has he won???

Hes 51-51-2 in his career and 1-3 in the playoffs 

Like I said he puts up stats but he doesn't do enough to move the needle.

If hurts puts up 4000 yards a year and 25 tds but never wins any playoff games who cares???

Mcnabb wasn't a big stat producer he was rarely tops in the league in pass yards or pass tds yet he was a winner and won a lot of games and playoff games, sure he choked in the big ones but unlike cousins he at least got there 

Hopefully hurts can be more like mcnabb without the choking rather than cousins who just puts up meaningless stats .

Just for fun,

Bortles:

2014 - 26.7 - 30th

2015 - 51.4 - 24

2016 - 43.0 - 28th

2017 - 59.2 - 12

2018 - 43.4 - 30

2019 - DNQ, 0.1 rating

So, wrong again.

Gonna look at Eli.

ESPNs QBR stats start in 2006 (that I could find), from 2006 - 2019, in order, he finished:

20, 18, 6, 7, 13, 10, 9, 27, 14, 16, 27, 22, 25 and DNQ in 2019.

LOL. I don't think I've ever seen a post that had every sentence be completely wrong. Congrats!

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

They aren't a waste of time, I don't think anybody has said that. But it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be. Sirianni doesn't come across as a hard ass at all, so I'd think it'd be out of character for him to draw battle lines immediately. Doug Pederson ran 11v11 and 7v7s and his teams looked insanely unprepared every week. 

So I think issue I have has gotten lost in the conversation.  We aren't winning or losing the Super Bowl by having or not having 11v11 and 7v7, I'm not saying that.  

The message it sends, IMO, is one of complacency.  Sirianni wants guys who love ball and want to compete yet the first thing his players tell him is we don't love ball enough to have full OTA/mini camps and we'll compete when it fits our time...and he caved to that mindset.  I would have loved to have him come in here and say this is how things are going to be done, if you don't like it tough crap.  If a young player comes in and takes your spot, so be it.

I also firmly believe that with a brand new staff and a new starting quarterback, every second the NFL allows you to have player/coach interaction on the field should be taken advantage of, not negotiated out of.  

I know in the grand scheme of things, we are probably talking about what, 3-5 days of on field drills here but again, it's the message and mindset behind it all that pisses me off, not to mention the fact that players complain they have to work an extra 3-5 days.

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

thats my bad, im unsure why when i switched years it changed the category

but still i dont hold weight on QBR

Why dont you hold weight? It's not the be all/end all, but it's another piece of information that appears to match up with the eye test. Keenum was a career backup, who had one outlier year with a pair of great WRs. Bortles was never any good. Eli had 4 years being top 10, but never better than 6, and most of his career was in the 20s. That aligns with how many of us view him, with his 2 Superbowls and playing in NY likely getting him into the HOF (though based on his stats alone, he shouldn't be going).