7 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

NFL analyst blasts Eagles’ Jalen Hurts for missing throws that high school QBs can make

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2021/06/nfl-analyst-says-eagles-jalen-hurts-missed-throws-last-season-that-a-high-school-senior-should-have-made.html

Does this guy post here?

Meh, who cares about last year, Mcnabb was 49.1% passer as a rookie.

He jumped to 58% the next year which was right around his career av of 59%

A qb who can't make highschool throws doesn't throw for 4000 plus yards in a college season.

Will that translate to the NFL?  Who knows yet?

 

1 hour ago, hputenis said:

GTFO you stumpy knob!   

Ok, that’s affirmative 

17 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Does that also apply to bigger heavier guys like Dickerson or is the general recovery for an athlete, which Dickerson is, 9 months?

Lots of things to consider, such as other repairs as part of the surgery, but nine months give or take is normal recovery time. 

Structurally he should be perfectly fine. But he has to regain flexibility and strength to protect the joint. 

I’m not guaranteeing 9 months from injury because I’m not privy to his medical record obviously, but it should be a reasonable timeline. The Eagles saying this isn’t a redshirt year suggests the same. 

Maybe he misses the first month of the season? When did he have surgery?

I want to fight

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Lots of things to consider, such as other repairs as part of the surgery, but nine months give or take is normal recovery time. 

Structurally he should be perfectly fine. But he has to regain flexibility and strength to protect the joint. 

I’m not guaranteeing 9 months from injury because I’m not privy to his medical record obviously, but it should be a reasonable timeline. The Eagles saying this isn’t a redshirt year suggests they same. 

Maybe he misses the first month of the season? When did he have surgery?

Not sure when he had surgery and I'd reckon he's on track as far as regained flexibility as evidenced by his cart wheel video😊

The fastest recovery I can remember in recent history is Adrian  Peterson  and I'd say his recovery was definitely the exception not the rule, hes just a freaky athlete, and while I think Dickerson is a pretty good athlete I'm not sure why there would be such a rush to get him on the field especially with his Injury history and the eagles medical staffs history of failure the last few years.

46 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Can he be called the greatest when he used stickem?

@4for4EaglesNest what's confusing about this?

23 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

NFL analyst blasts Eagles’ Jalen Hurts for missing throws that high school QBs can make

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2021/06/nfl-analyst-says-eagles-jalen-hurts-missed-throws-last-season-that-a-high-school-senior-should-have-made.html

Does this guy post here?

It was Chris Simms from PFT that said that but he might as well be a poster on this board.

He says that about Hurts, but Wentz was doing the same thing (missing wide open WRs) and yet he is higher on his list.

With all the negativity that Hurts gets from the fans, sports reporters and analysts, I really hope he gives them all the middle finger and proves them all completely wrong.

3 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

I want to fight

37 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Definitely not as smooth as devonte and also that turf whatever it is looks pretty slippery and awful.

Houston grass.  
 

Two step turns and stops are the difference between being open and being covered in the NFL. 

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

H- 6'1''              /    6'3''

W-  220        /      230

Hand -   9 6/8     /    10.88

Arm   31   /      32.25

WingSpan  77        / 78 1/2

^NFL Combine Results.com  Dak is literally bigger than him in every category. 

But again, Hurts was drafted early and supposed to be a back up while Dak slipped for off field stuff. 

I would take Dak 10 days out of 10

I would to.

I really liked Dak out of college, he was my favorite qb prospect in the draft and I thought the eagles missed an opportunity to get a starting qb late and use the rest of their picks elsewhere.

In the end I guess it worked out as the eagles win the super bowl with Wentz and foles but yeah I'd rather have Dak than hurts 

I didn't really like hurts coming out as a prospect, I though he was more a product of his hokey college system,I thought he was a solid guy with a good work ethic and could be a good back up eventual starter In the league at no point did I ever think the eagles would draft him nor did I want them to unless he was available in say 5-7th round and I figured he'd be long gone before that 

Having said that I hope he does well I do t have high or low expectations for him Im hopeful he works out because if not then it's just more resources used to fix a position that Howie screwed up and will set the eagles back 

One can't keep allocating resources to one failed position year after year and expect to succeed, ie. see the browns and jets 

6 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Houston grass.  
 

Two step turns and stops are the difference between being open and being covered in the NFL. 

Yup he has a few too many false steps and hops on his turns.

Funny thing watching devonta is he doesn't look like he's moving that fast he just kind of glides, super smoothe but at first glance it's like is this dude even trying 

I'm not too worried about Quez he's a bottom of the roster guy at this point but I'm glad he's working to get better and hopeful after his few flashes last year that he can contribute something.

Now Reagor he's a guy that has some unfulfilled expectations, rumor has it he's slimmed down and is in great shape, he's always been a pretty twitchy jacked athlete and I think the added weight really hurt his game last year he just looked clunky and sluggish and I didn't see a lot of the quickness and explosion he showed in college so hopefully with the lighter weight and an extra off season if learning and acclimating he can play faster than last year.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Can he be called the greatest when he used stickem?

 

20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok.  I’ll explain.  Stickum was banned in 1981.  4 years before Jerry Rice’s rookie season.  He played with the really really sticky gloves they all use now.  Not stickum but very close.  

He’s admitted to using it

You didn’t know?

Are there any other GOATs in the NFL?

Brady

Sanders

Rice

Taylor

???

1 minute ago, WentzFan11 said:

Are there any other GOATs in the NFL?

Brady

Sanders

Rice

Taylor

???

You don't consider Peyton one?

16 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He’s admitted to using it

You didn’t know?

Then he said he didn't. 

2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Are there any other GOATs in the NFL?

Brady

Sanders

Rice

Taylor

???

Here we go....LOL

Just now, dawkdaballhawk said:

Then he said he didn't. 

Backtracking when he realized he should have taken it to the grave

It's pretty logical that he'd backtrack

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Does that also apply to bigger heavier guys like Dickerson or is the general recovery for an athlete, which Dickerson is, 9 months?

If you remember,  Kelce tore both his ACL and MCL.  Not sure of his recovery time, but he certainly regained his form.  I acknowledge that Kelce is on the smaller side for his position,  but his knee has held up just fine.  My gut feeling is that Dickerson is going to be a stud for us.

2 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Then he said he didn't. 

Here we go....LOL

We’ve had enough Hurts discussion for today lol. 

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

You don't consider Peyton one?

If Brady didn’t exist. I don’t think you can have more than 1 at a position. 

52 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Not sure when he had surgery and I'd reckon he's on track as far as regained flexibility as evidenced by his cart wheel video😊

The fastest recovery I can remember in recent history is Adrian  Peterson  and I'd say his recovery was definitely the exception not the rule, hes just a freaky athlete, and while I think Dickerson is a pretty good athlete I'm not sure why there would be such a rush to get him on the field especially with his Injury history and the eagles medical staffs history of failure the last few years.

Wes Welker was back to 11 on 11s 8 months after tearing the ACL and MCL. 

7 minutes ago, Grump99 said:

If you remember,  Kelce tore both his ACL and MCL.  Not sure of his recovery time, but he certainly regained his form.  I acknowledge that Kelce is on the smaller side for his position,  but his knee has held up just fine.  My gut feeling is that Dickerson is going to be a stud for us.

Yeah I think if he can stay healthy hell be pretty good 

13 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Are there any other GOATs in the NFL?

Brady

Sanders

Rice

Taylor

???

There are a bunch of guys at QB that can be considered GOATs I exclude Brady because he's a twice caught cheater 

If he played baseball he would have been banned 

As for RB argument can be made for a number of guys.

DE I think it's Reggie and everyone else though some might argue for deacon though if Reggie were allowed to head slap the crap out of OL he might have had 400 sacks...

LT is regarded by some as not just the GOAT LB but the GOAT defensive player so...

I think it's difficult to make an argument that any WR was better than Rice.

So rather than rehash all the Hurts arguments when in a month we will begin to be truly able to start judging improvement, I thought I would change the topic a bit.  Hopefully this isn’t too political for the Mods.  I read the opinions in the NCAA case. Their days of monopolistic behavior are a thing of the past.  While the written opinion was narrowly focused on the issue at hand, Kavanaugh threw a grenade with his broader worded consenting opinion and likely foretold the future.  Couple that with states like CA that passed bills allowing compensation and I do think we see compensated players sooner than later.  Plus, there is the relaxed transfer protocol. This is going to change the dynamics of college sports.  And that is going to change the draft pool, I think. 

I can see five star and four star recruits making decisions on marketability and the playing time necessary for such.  I can also see transfers and even recruitment of transfers based on that.  Go to a lower tier college (say like Driscoll at Massachusetts then transferred to Auburn), excel and transfer to a higher rated college.   I also imagine this may impact the draft.  Get a lower day three rating, stay in college as your compensation may be enough to want to try and improve your rating rather than risk being a UDFA.  It is not hard to imagine players who declare for the draft not hiring an agent and then reverting back to college.  

30 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Are there any other GOATs in the NFL?

Brady

Sanders

Rice

Taylor

???

Montana