20 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

You can never have enough quality pass rushers. How many late 1st and late 2nd round pass rushers make immediate impacts as rookies? 

If the Bills will take Sweat, have no problem with that.  The question is: is Sweat an upgrade to what they have, including the new draftees? 

Sweat may have some game experience, but he would be learning a new defense scheme.  Could he be productive immediately vs the newbies?

I'd rather take draft pick for trading Ertz.  That gives our team more flexibility to address the needs in the roster.

2 hours ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Hargrave’s cap number is north of $17mm next year. Graham, Cox, and Hargrave account for $50mm combined. Over 25% of total team cap space. That’s insane to me.

Their return on investment in the DL is about to crater.  I realize the old adage about building through the lines, but they have criminally over-invested in a DL foundation that doesn’t even sack the qb.

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2021/07/nfl-analysts-split-on-who-will-have-the-better-3-year-stretch-eagles-jalen-hurts-or-colts-carson-wentz.html

 

NFL analysts split on who will have the better 3-year stretch: Eagles’ Jalen Hurts or Colts’ Carson Wentz

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2021/07/nfl-analysts-split-on-who-will-have-the-better-3-year-stretch-eagles-jalen-hurts-or-colts-carson-wentz.html

 

NFL analysts split on who will have the better 3-year stretch: Eagles’ Jalen Hurts or Colts’ Carson Wentz

I’ll be shocked if Hurts is the starter for 3 years. 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’ll be shocked if Hurts is the starter for 3 years. 

Hurts is starting from ground zero with minimal expectations.  The Eagles won 4 games last season and it could actually have been much worse.  They wouldn’t have beaten SF if Mullens hadn’t been terrible.  They wouldn’t have beaten DAL if DiNucci hadn’t been terrible.  They wouldn’t have beaten NO if Taysom Hill hadn’t been ….. Taysom Hill.

Hurts’ own stats last season were below pedestrian; it’s hard to believe they can be worse this year.  If Hurts plays even somewhat competently it will be easy for Nick and Howie to say "he’s made real progression” and trot him out there for 2022.  
 

He’s still the dirt cheap option for a team with little to no cap space.

That was the only off Taysom Hill's career as a starter.  The only loss in 10 games with a backup QB for Sean Payton and the Saints over the past 2 seasons. Saints had the 4th ranked defense in the NFL.

 

It's insincere to discredit Hurts win over them by trying to equate it to SF with Mullens or Dallas with DiNucci.  Hurts beat a legitimately good team with a good defense in his first career start.  

 

 

Happy Birthday, U. S. Of A.   

4 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Their return on investment in the DL is about to crater.  I realize the old adage about building through the lines, but they have criminally over-invested in a DL foundation that doesn’t even sack the qb.

Don’t get me wrong, I mostly agree with what you’re saying. But weren’t we 3rd in the league in sacks last year? And almost never blitzed. 

@Original Sin

Remember when beastfromtheeast was a Canadiens fan? He was Habsfan or some crap like that? Now he's super TB guy. What a Fing loser lol.

People want to be so right about Hurts they’ll discredit anything good he’s done. So that’s how this season is gonna go? 

7 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

People want to be so right shot Hurts they’ll discredit anything good he’s done. So that’s how this season is gonna go? 

27 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

People want to be so right shot Hurts they’ll discredit anything good he’s done. So that’s how this season is gonna go? 

It's been that way for years with our starting QB with this group.  Why change now?

On 7/3/2021 at 3:54 PM, Alphagrand said:

Funny — you do a search of best NFL TE on any reputable website and Goedert is in the top 10 in all of them; top 6 in most.

Who do you want the Eagles to give a contract extension to … nobody?  Goedert might be the biggest no-brainer extension on the team as long as his market value is negotiated properly.  What other 26 year-old players do the Eagles have that would be more deserving?

How? I'm not saying he sucks but I'm surprised he'd be ranked top 6 or even top 10. He's been pretty much put on the backburner from injury and/or Ertz

4 hours ago, Westbrook#36 said:

@Original Sin

Remember when beastfromtheeast was a Canadiens fan? He was Habsfan or some crap like that? Now he's super TB guy. What a Fing loser lol.

What are you talking about dumb ass ? I am  still a habs fan , I guess reading isn’t one of your strengths . Only Tampa team I like is the Bucs .

 

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

How? I'm not saying he sucks but I'm surprised he'd be ranked top 6 or even top 10. He's been pretty much put on the backburner from injury and/or Ertz

He’s one of the few multi-dimensional NFL TE in that he’s an excellent blocker to go along with being a productive pass catcher.  He has a chance to be really good, depending how Sirianni and Steichen use him.  If I were the OC he’d be the #2 pass catching target behind Smith.

If Fulgham can come close to regaining form I’d go with Smith and Fulgham outside, Reagor in the slot, and Goedert as the featured TE in most formations.  The rest of the WR would be dividing scraps for snap counts.

On 7/2/2021 at 6:05 PM, BigEFly said:

Good read

https://jetrolot.com/dear-colts-fans/

Good read? You are overly optimistic. Funny thing is the only place I see Wentz mentioned is the EMB so it's not that hard "not to hear him mentioned"

15 hours ago, WentzFan11 said:

People want to be so right about Hurts they’ll discredit anything good he’s done. So that’s how this season is gonna go? 

What is anyone discrediting? 

1 hour ago, greend said:

Good read? You are overly optimistic. Funny thing is the only place I see Wentz mentioned is the EMB so it's not that hard "not to hear him mentioned"

If he's fed up now, he hasn't seen nothing yet.

I believe the Colts will win that division and Wentz will return to being a top 12 NFL QB.  Then he can look forward to all the national media geniuses asking "How come he wasn't playing like this last season??"

13 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

He’s one of the few multi-dimensional NFL TE in that he’s an excellent blocker to go along with being a productive pass catcher.  He has a chance to be really good, depending how Sirianni and Steichen use him.  If I were the OC he’d be the #2 pass catching target behind Smith.

If Fulgham can come close to regaining form I’d go with Smith and Fulgham outside, Reagor in the slot, and Goedert as the featured TE in most formations.  The rest of the WR would be dividing scraps for snap counts.

I am hoping that Sirianni goes with a full rotation where X, Y and Z don’t matter as much as a play designed to get receivers open.  So the route being what matters.   That includes Scott and Gainwell in motion and into the passing game.  Sanders if he regains his rookie shine.  Getting Reagor to realize being the decoy is as important of a route as being the target.   Utilizing our back up WRs towards their strengths. The only two I would see as on the field most all the time are Smith and Goedert.  

2 hours ago, greend said:

Good read? You are overly optimistic. Funny thing is the only place I see Wentz mentioned is the EMB so it's not that hard "not to hear him mentioned"

Me, overly optimistic?  I self admit that.  

But my only obsession with Wentz this coming season is 75% of the snaps.  And frankly, I would love for that to happen with him playing just well enough to not get benched.  In other words, the poorer the Colts record, the better for the Eagles.  I am also pulling for Miami to stumble hard.  My only interest in those teams (and Wentz) is how their play impacts the Eagles draft capital.  I think that is true for a lot of Eagles fans, which is what Matt was suggesting. 

34 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

If he's fed up now, he hasn't seen nothing yet.

I believe the Colts will win that division and Wentz will return to being a top 12 NFL QB.  Then he can look forward to all the national media geniuses asking "How come he wasn't playing like this last season??"

Maybe.  I was really pulling for Wentz to turn things around here.  I doubted most journalistic reports of him as a poor teammate but those did keep showing up.  There are two ways to react to a benching.  Fix what you did to get benched (internalize the focus) or blame external forces.    Now, I thought Doug’s offense has been getting dull and predictable since Reich left and that was a factor.   I must agree that the OL was in shambles last year and a clean pocket became so surprising that the QBs were gun shy.  But I have been complaining about some things about Wentz for years.  Inability to effectively lead receivers, tendency to lift balls, tendency to target receivers with lasers that made the contort to make the catch and the fumbles.   We have Wentz do nothing to fix or improve.  Instead, we heard he stopped listening to the coach.  And in response, when benched, his reaction was to request a trade.  I think the Eagles saw him for what he is.  A good QB but much like McNabb, unable to build on his abilities and unable to take guidance to make the needed improvements.  I suspect that he will be humbled early in this season and may finally come around.  Hopefully Reich pushes him and doesn’t bench him.  But to me at this point, he’s a petulant immature diva whose only value on the football field for me is to get the Eagles a first round choice.  

I think the Titans win that division.  I think the Jaguars are going to surprise some teams.  The Texans are going to stink.

21 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Me, overly optimistic?  I self admit that.  

But my only obsession with Wentz this coming season is 75% of the snaps.  And frankly, I would love for that to happen with him playing just well enough to not get benched.  In other words, the poorer the Colts record, the better for the Eagles.  I am also pulling for Miami to stumble hard.  My only interest in those teams (and Wentz) is how their play impacts the Eagles draft capital.  I think that is true for a lot of Eagles fans, which is what Matt was suggesting. 

I believe both the Eagles and MIA will finish about 7 wins -10 losses, IND about 11-6.  I'm preparing myself for those 3 picks to be somewhere around 12, 15, and 22.

There won't be multiple top-10 picks -- perhaps not any at all.  Three first round picks is still nothing to sneeze at.

2 hours ago, greend said:

Good read? You are overly optimistic. Funny thing is the only place I see Wentz mentioned is the EMB so it's not that hard "not to hear him mentioned"

I'm in an eagles facebook group and the ones that keep mentioning him are his haters. The rest of us have moved on

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Me, overly optimistic?  I self admit that.  

But my only obsession with Wentz this coming season is 75% of the snaps.  And frankly, I would love for that to happen with him playing just well enough to not get benched.  In other words, the poorer the Colts record, the better for the Eagles.  I am also pulling for Miami to stumble hard.  My only interest in those teams (and Wentz) is how their play impacts the Eagles draft capital.  I think that is true for a lot of Eagles fans, which is what Matt was suggesting. 

True for a lot, sure. But him being tired of hearing about Wentz is his own fault.

16 hours ago, Original Sin said:

What are you talking about dumb ass ? I am  still a habs fan , I guess reading isn’t one of your strengths . Only Tampa team I like is the Bucs .

 

What's a habs???