3 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Yep.  Your boy would have taken the sack there.  But that way his weak arm wouldn't be exposed, only his terrible decision making and lack of ability to read the field.  Both of which would be excused by you by hauling out some go to Wentzcuses, like blaming the OL for not blocking, the receivers for not getting open, Doug for sabotaging poor widdle carsy poo, etc. etc. etc.

Doug did worse than sabotaging Wentz, he sabotaged a rookie QB

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. Its not good when the QB doesnt support the idea of having a good backup. Thats a really poor attitude. Its not just about a lack of competitiveness to want to prove yourself and squash the competition. Its also selfish, not wanting to help the next guy behind you be the best he can be. Not wanting the team to be set up to still do well if you get hurt, etc. 

I remember as far back as having Jeff Blake as a backup. And I dont remember if he was any good at that point, but I do remember he was a name after some pretty good seasons with the Bengals, and I remember Spadaro's piece talking about what a great QB situation they had. And it seems like ever since then (maybe even before) the eagles have almost always ensured they had a great situation at backup QB. Its not about not supporting Wentz, its just been this team's philosophy for decades. 

 

This is just my personal belief and I don’t have anything really concrete to back it up but my belief since they made that pick was always they were positioning themselves for an unknown with Carson Wentz. Listening to lurie back in 2011 I think he kind of looked at the end of last season as potentially fools gold. He thought well they played in a bad division, down the stretch they played a bunch of bad teams and the one game where they played somebody decent Prescott had a bum shoulder. Now he was impressed that they were able to go on a winning streak with Carson with not much talent at WR. But I think they were positioning themselves if he was beginning of the season 2019 Carson Wentz then after two years they could get out of that contract and they would have their future starter in place and groomed to take over. Now if he was more like end of 2019 wentz then I think they would go with the concoction of secondary and tertiary reasons why they drafted hurts and continue to run with it cause people would buy it cause logically it made sense.  But I do not think the Eagles drafted him without having an idea that they might move on from wentz and they wanted to be safe having someone step into the role when that decision came along at the end of 2021. That said I don’t think the Eagles accounted for the fact that could happen after the 2020 season

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

I didn't know that was the largest but I believe we have @Portyansky to thank for that

Needed a new home to keep us alive. The GDT, the good the bad the ugly threads, 411 (even though a little slow), plus all the bipolar fair weather fans are my favorite things of this forum. Worth every penny.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I can’t believe we wasted a second round pick on a developmental QB because the cost of a good backup QB is high. 

And now the team sucks so having a good backup QB to win a game or two is pretty much meaningless. 

Howie is so dumb. 

I didn't like it from the start

Funny(in a sad kind of way) to read back on though. Seeing people try to justify it lol

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I can’t believe we wasted a second round pick on a developmental QB because the cost of a good backup QB is high. 

And now the team sucks so having a good backup QB to win a game or two is pretty much meaningless. 

Howie is so dumb. 

To be honest I think that was their secondary and tertiary reasons for doing it and they made it into that’s the reason why they did it because they knew people would buy into it.

I said this when they drafted them and I believe it now, they didn’t draft him just to be a back up. the end of 2019 the Eagles did not know which Carson Wentz they were going to get. They knew they had two years because of his contract where they were likely unable to move on. So they had two years to figure out if he was end of 2019 Carson Wentz or beginning of 2019 Carson Wentz. By drafting hurts they could use the excuse that everyone bought into but in reality they would be feel safe knowing they had a quarterback they loved and could be groomed for two years so that if they made the decision at the end of the 2021 season that Carson Wentz was not end of 2019 Carson wentz Then they could move on and have a quarterback they liked in place to take over. And he would be ready at that point.

The thing the Eagles in an account for was it would go this poorly in 2020 to the point of where they are now. 

31 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Correct, in part — but he’d be wise not to take their word for it 

5 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Doug did worse than sabotaging Wentz, he sabotaged a rookie QB

How did he sabotage anyone?  It's amazing how you Washers just handwave away the lack of talent on this team in order to unfairly attack Doug with absurd claims of "sabotage", no doubt in order to excuse Carson Wentz' total ineptitude.  You guys continue embarrassing yourselves more and more everyday.

33 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No one should ever believe this was a Doug decision only. 

I kinda feel bad for him. We know he has nothing to do with the decisions made. Then he starts calling plays and I hate him again. 
 

33 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Yep.  That's why he's gone.  The diva won't get his hands dirty with a QB competition.  Either hand everything to him on a silver platter, or he takes his ball and goes home.

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I can’t believe we wasted a second round pick on a developmental QB because the cost of a good backup QB is high. 

And now the team sucks so having a good backup QB to win a game or two is pretty much meaningless. 

Howie is so dumb. 

Yep. It’s a train wreck. Bad part is it will continue till next season. 

21 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I couldn't even tell you if Singleton was a MLB or OLB in our scheme.  Edwards we know is a MLB.  

I think those 2 are serviceable but they should not be handed jobs.  It's not like Singleton is a young core piece.  

However, if those 2 guys are starting, I want a legit athletic LB.  No more Duke Riley's or Davion Taylor types.  I want a linebacker.

Who’s your preference — Dylan Moses, Zevan Collins, Chazz Surratt, Nick Bolton?

Make it happen, Eagles.

Howie will still screw this up. The voice in his head will tell him to take Smith and he will fight it and take a scrub.

1 minute ago, Br3 said:

Howie will still screw this up 

Wow, does this mean he's the next Desmond Howard?

Is this a hot take? I think Waddle goes ahead of Smith if his leg checks out. 

38 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Lane is a LT?

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Is this a hot take? I think Waddle goes ahead of Smith if his leg checks out. 

His leg should be fine. He might even play in the National Championship on Monday.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Is this a hot take? I think Waddle goes ahead of Smith if his leg checks out. 

I’m hearing Waddle is practicing this week ahead of the championship game Jan 11.  Said it at this time last year — better prospect than Henry Ruggs.

5 minutes ago, Br3 said:

Howie will still screw this up 

He's trading back, he just drafted Reagor, Hightower and Quez 😭

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Is this a hot take? I think Waddle goes ahead of Smith if his leg checks out. 

I don’t think that is. I wouldn’t be shocked at all of that happened 

23 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Based off listening to Adam caplan On his podcast and last night on 975  this really all feels like it stems back to the fact the Eagles took Jalen hurts in the second round and he didn’t feel the Eagles supported him the way they should after he finished the 2019 season the way he did. That’s not my interpretation but that’s what I gather based off of how caplan was talking on the situation with what he knew  

We'll probably never know, but I'd bet that it stems back to when we had a WR anonymously trash Wentz. Did the organization do anything about that? All indications point to no. If that happened on any other team, there's a decent chance that WR (as long as he wasn't a top 10 talent) would have been immediately released. Instead, the Eagles seemed to reward Jeffery with loyalty. 

And think about this even deeper. Jeffery didn't trash Wentz's play or talents. He trashed him as a person. He called him a bad teammate. If I was a franchise QB, I'd expect the organization to completely and totally have my back if something like that happened. Instead, we got random sound bites from Doug along the lines of "Wentz will learn from this." Other than some players, there wasn't a single person within the organization that publicly condemned Jeffrey (or even simply condemning the "anonymous" person). 

I think Hurts is just the last straw for Wentz. IMO, it ALL goes back to Jeffery. The organization handled that in the absolute worst possible way. 

7 minutes ago, Br3 said:

Howie will still screw this up. The voice in his head will tell him to take Smith and he will fight it and take a scrub.

He better not, if Chase isn't there, this is a no-brainer pick.

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

He better not, if Chase isn't there, this is a no-brainer pick.

I have zero confidence in Howie and in all seriousness I think it’s for the best if we all lower our expectations and just prepare to be disappointed

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

How did he sabotage anyone?  It's amazing how you Washers just handwave away the lack of talent on this team in order to unfairly attack Doug with absurd claims of "sabotage", no doubt in order to excuse Carson Wentz' total ineptitude.  You guys continue embarrassing yourselves more and more everyday.

Has nothing to do with Wentz.  He coached his team poorly, didn't coach to player strengths.  The team lacks talent, but is not devoid of it.  The talent they do have is either used improperly, or not at all.  Sanders, Fulgham, Wentz,  Hurts, offensive line all examples this season. 

When’s the last time a non QB/RB won the Heisman?

edit: found my answer. Woodson in ‘97