12 minutes ago, Br3 said:

Imagine if we trade Wentz to the bears for Foles 

Wentz won’t show up to camp if Foles is on the team, he doesn’t want to carry Nicks’s water. 

Just now, downundermike said:

Completed just over half of his passes, and scored on 2 of 22 second half possessions.  That is pretty much nothing.

Shouldn’t he get maybe a training camp and a rookie season before we judge him? You know like every single other QB in the nfl gets? I understand you are butthurt cause Wentz is gone but Hurts isn’t the reason bad QB play from Wentz was.

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Hurst showed quite a bit, given the injuries and needing to start 3/4 of the way into a season, with no pre-season etc.  The offense looked better when he played.  The Cardinals game (although a loss) was probably the most exciting offensive game of the year.. 

so then how can you say no one should view him as a viable long term starter after admitting he showed quite a bit & that the offense looked better when he played...

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That’s cute.   You’re going on the list.  

Jericho list?

Trade Wentz to the Bengals. Sell him as insurance.

3 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I don't think Lawrence sucks. I don't think he's a bad prospect, necessarily. There are a lot of people that think he's in the same vein as Elway or Luck. I don't. I don't think he'll ever be what people think he will. I think his very best is middle of the pack.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I have no problem admitting that. We'll see what happens.

We'll see.  If he gets the proper coaching and a solid team around him, I think he will be (at the very least) a solid franchise QB.  That said, I think his ceiling is also very high.  I've been following him (briefly) since he finished High School and he's always been a tier or two above other QB's in his age group.  I wasn't joking when I said he could of started for at least half the teams in the league over the past two years.  He's already at that level. 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That’s cute.   You’re going on the list.  

 

1 hour ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

If Howie fleeces the Bears for two 1’s it’s out of the basement back to the penthouse again!

He would be out of my dog house and be crowned lord pimp of trades.

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah but the real question, is his arm stronger than Chad Pennington’s?

Sure is. So is Wilson's.

Kinda concerned for you if you take everything out of people's mouths seriously.

Then again, this is you we're talking about.

2 minutes ago, Br3 said:

so then how can you say no one should view him as a viable long term starter after admitting he showed quite a bit & that the offense looked better when he played...

I didn't say that bud.  I think you have me confused with others in this thread. 

4 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

Wentz won’t show up to camp if Foles is on the team, he doesn’t want to carry Nicks’s water. 

Not to sound crazy and this is NOT my Foles love speaking BUT, if bears did take carson they would be trading Foles and Mitch asap. They know they can't hurt Carsons fragile ego.

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I didn't say that bud.  I think you have me confused with others in this thread. 

Lol my bad bro I thought I was replying to @Alphagrand 

Just now, Sturm said:

Not to sound crazy and this is NOT my Foles love speaking BUT, if bears did take carson they would be trading Foles and Mitch asap. They know they can't hurt Carsons fragile ego.

Can’t trade a free agent, Trubisky is a free agent.

This is classic trolling.  Making an absurd statement for reaction without consulting the facts.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Oh i agree. However i think there’s a large contingent of fans that think the eagles are trading wentz and they also don’t believe in hurts anymore so we are taking a QB. I tend to believe this was the eagles plan B if things eroded or wentz failed. They believe hurts can be their Russell Wilson they missed on. 

I’m with you on this. I don’t think Hurts is the answer but I bet Howie may.  At the same time, that’s not enough to keep him from moving on from him.  

Just now, downundermike said:

Can’t trade a free agent, Trubisky is a free agent.

This is classic trolling.  Making an absurd statement for reaction without consulting the facts.

I did NOT know that..huh.. thought he was on his 5th year op next year well damn lol

and no not trolling good sir. Legit didn't know. Glad you are quick to judge! your friends must love you

On 2/5/2021 at 8:09 AM, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup the eagles Fed themselves in more ways then they could’ve ever imagined with that pick. Unless hurts winds up being a legitimate franchise QB it’s going to wind up hurting them way more than any good they thought could come from it. 

add on they knew they needed to do a rebuild last offseason. Decided to pull a 180 and change course according to howie. So knowing it was eventually coming and yet their belief was hurts strictly was just a good cheap backup (i don’t buy that) then why was that so important to get a cheap competent backup QB when you knew you were going into a rebuild and weren’t expecting to win anything big during that rebuild? You need a really good backup QB during a rebuild, i have yet to see other rebuilding franchises invest a second round picks for cheap backup QBs with a rebuild on the horizon or in a rebuild 

See I don’t get these criticisms. Basically saying the team would’ve been better if Doug cut Hurts, that he was a minus while sitting on the bench. I’m going to take this route again with you, ready ? You know what would stop the Hurts pick eating at him ? Man up and play better, you know like the level of the contract the team gave you to show their confidence in you. I hope the guy isn’t fragile like what’s been insinuated

Last year wasn’t a rebuild, that’s not how they were thinking. Like I said it’s been all down hill since LII so obviously it should have started the day after obviously.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

really it should be last on the list? That’s the route you wanna go that it should be last on this. All season I heard you say quarterback is the most important thing on the field. Meanwhile 70% of the last decade they didn’t get franchise level quarterbacking and spent over $100 million on two contracts. That you’re gonna sit there all Fing season and talk  about the quarterback position being absolutely vital and getting that level of play is the utmost importance

this is absolutely amazing you. telling me that 2018, 2019 (until week 14) and 2020 Carson Wentz didn’t play like a franchise quarterback all season. But now in your argument you’re going to defend the Eagles and tell me he was a franchise quarterback for 5 years. So you all season stated didn’t really play all the great 2018.  he didn’t really play all the great 2019 except for the last four games and was awful this year. but now those five years were franchise quarterback play? Are you kidding me right now?

also If he does it somewhere else then they may look like dopes for trading him and him accomplishing it somewhere else. That gives me less faith in the Philadelphia Eagles finding one and actually knowing that he is one. 

Are the two mutually exclusive?  You can't say that the QB position is the most important position on the team and still state that acquiring a franchise QB is difficult but the Eagles have done a decent job at it?

Anyway, we'll need to agree to disagree on this one.  Now if the Eagles go another 4-5 years without securing a franchise QB, I will say you have a point...but I have a feeling they'll be fine there. 

4 hours ago, The guy in France said:

See I don’t get these criticisms. Basically saying the team would’ve been better if Doug cut Hurts, that he was a minus while sitting on the bench. I’m going to take this route again with you, ready ? You know what would stop the Hurts pick eating at him ? Man up and play better, you know like the level of the contract the team gave you to show their confidence in you. I hope the guy isn’t fragile like what’s been insinuated

Last year wasn’t a rebuild, that’s not how they were thinking. Like I said it’s been all down hill since LII so obviously it should have started the day after obviously.

It wasn’t a rebuild but howie in his press conference said they were going to do a rebuild (in the 2020 offseason) until they saw the pandemic and then did a 180. So roughly April he had an epiphany that he was putting a rebuild on hold for a year (which frankly is stupid in the first place if you didn’t think they were good enough at that time to win a SB and needed a rebuild).  He knew it was a rebuild year and he switched it only because he saw three new head coach is in the division during a pandemic. So he knew on the horizon was a rebuild and he needed to rebuild. That was said in his press conference. So again he needed to do a rebuild, he knew he needed too and they knew after this year at the latest they’d be doing a rebuild. So again i ask why is a backup qb so vital for one season when they still had sudfeld (whom supposedly they love according to lurie) entering and knowing you are going into a rebuild? Yes that doesn’t make much sense cause you are basically not looking long terms like you should have especially since howie admitted they needed to do a rebuild  

again where did I say in there that affected how Carson Wentz played/looking over his shoulder in my response? Please show me where i said that. I have said It was reported later after the eagles lied about him being ok with it that he wasn’t. What I was alluding to was my own opinion to that the Eagles FO put in their own mind that if wentz situation blew up they would give up on wentz so they could just move on from him with a QB in place. A plan B. Hence their reasoning at the press conference for saying they didn’t want to miss out on a potential russell Wilson like they did in 2012. Ultimately if hurts doesn’t become that franchise quarterback and Carson Wentz goes elsewhere and is then it would ultimate screw the them over and do more harm than good with the plan i believe they constructed (having a plan B in place my opinion that was their plan).

What you are discussing has nothing to do with what i was discussing with The drafting of hurts. I NEVER mentioned wentz worrying about hurts and looking over his shoulder affecting his play. YES he could have played better and not worried about that if that caused it. BUT that doesn’t change what my feeling or what i was talking about. in our discussions i have never once said the drafting of hurts completely screwed up wentz’s performance, or looking over his shoulder. My post literally has NOTHING to do with that aspect or discuss it. Yet you keep implying somewhere in there that i did. Nowhere do i remotely talk about that. So again i am confused as to why you keep inserting that into the discussion. That’s an entirely different topic then what i was discussing. 

5 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 

You know he's in a rock band? I had no idea until a couple years ago. He's not bad either

4 minutes ago, Sturm said:

He would be out of my dog house and be crowned lord pimp of trades.

But if Wentz plays well then it's a terrible trade.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 Yeah. Go with that.  
 

I am Mr Literal in here.  

Just giving you a hard time old man 😏

Just now, Freshmilk said:

But if Wentz plays well then it's a terrible trade.

of course that happens with any trade. There is risk of it biting us in the ass. We hope we are on the better side of the trade.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

You know he's in a rock band? I had no idea until a couple years ago. He's not bad either

Fozzy, Judas is the popular song, he wrestles for a company called AEW now I believe. 

Eagles are trading Wentz and Hurts to make room for Aaron Rodgers when GB kicks him to the curb.  🤭

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

3 1/2 games??  Hurts was visible on a national stage for 3 years at Alabama and another season at Oklahoma.  Let’s not pretend no one had heard of him before he was drafted by the Eagles.

By far, Hurts’ best is what he showed in his senior year at OU, where he put up comparable numbers to Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray.  Mayfield and Murray both were drafted #1 overall; Hurts was drafted #53 — don’t you wonder why that is?  It’s one abundantly clear reason — Mayfield and Murray possess the requisite arm talent to make all the throws on an NFL field (although Murray is highly erratic).  Hurts simply does not.

What Hurts showed in his 4-game audition this season is he can make exciting plays with his legs (everyone already knew that) and can do very little once the opposition shuts down his running lanes — even DAL shut him down with a historically-bad defense.

So he’s just done then. He’s finished. He can’t get better. He is what he is after 4 games in the nfl with a below average team around him. Ok. 
 

Who cares were Murray and Mayfield were drafted? What point are you making? Hurts can’t be as good or better because he wasn’t drafted #1 overall like those guys? That’s a very silly take