7 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Bringing in Foles at all is furthering the insanity.  The QB position has been in constant turmoil or controversy since the SB due to horrid mismanagement by the brass of this team.

Which means it's most likely they do acquire Foles then 

19 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Bringing in Foles at all is furthering the insanity.  The QB position has been in constant turmoil or controversy since the SB due to horrid mismanagement by the brass of this team.

I never said it was the right thing to do. But from a purely financial and Business standpoint off the field it makes a ton of sense for lurie. 

Add on i don’t think they care. And tbh i don’t think they have very good plan going forward. So I’m prepared for at least 3 more years of dysfunction and capped off by another power struggle. Besides 2017 that’s basically been the eagles since 2010. 

Between the reported trade offers from CHI and IND, the Colts offer makes more sense but neither offer would be near close enough that Howie should pull the trigger.  
 

The Bears offer is almost useless for an Eagles team wanting to rebuild.  Why would anyone pay $9M for 2 years of Tarik Cohen when he had a terrible 2019 season and was injured almost all of 2020?  Nick Foles would be taking Hurts’ job by Week 6 but, again, that serves very little purpose towards a rebuild.

The best part of the Colts offer is probably Okereke, who is a good young LB with 2 more years on a cheap deal.  Jack Doyle is okay — nothing to get excited about — but is an experienced, somewhat inexpensive TE at $6M per year for 2 more years.  The idea of trading #37 this season to get back a 2023 2nd is awful, though.  Yasin would need to be included, as well as the 2nd being 2022.

Not a lot to get excited about with either trade, but the Bears player would need to be much better upside than Cohen

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Call me crazy but my gut says Kelce is back, even with trading Wentz. He’s not that old plus if he plays I believe it would be for the most money in one year in his career (not including when he got his actual signing bonus).

The idea that Kelce is somehow linked to Wentz doesn't make sense, imo.  Why would Wentz being traded affect whether or not Kelce wants to come back or not?  

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

@BigEFly Our guy!

Damn.  Kept hoping Keith "Dubb” Williams would be signed by the Eagles   Hell of a WR coach.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The idea that Kelce is somehow linked to Wentz doesn't make sense, imo.  Why would Wentz being traded affect whether or not Kelce wants to come back or not?  

Well, he’s on the record saying he’s friends with him and the offensive struggles go beyond just him, so it makes sense that if the team trades players like Wentz, Ertz and others that Kelce wouldn’t want to come back for one more year they have no intention of competing in. 

My point is it’s easy for us guys on a message board to say retire is the obvious choice but how many of those saying that would turn down $7M for one year of work when you really didn’t make a ton of money in your career? Especially when you still played really good. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Well, he’s on the record saying he’s friends with him and the offensive struggles go beyond just him, so it makes sense that if the team trades players like Wentz, Ertz and others that Kelce wouldn’t want to come back for one more year they have no intention of competing in. 

My point is it’s easy for us guys on a message board to say retire is the obvious choice but how many of those saying that would turn down $7M for one year of work when you really didn’t make a ton of money in your career? Especially when you still played really good. 

Yep, I agree.  And who's to say he doesn't want a chance at another title?  If he really wants out if Wentz is gone I'm sure the Eagles would consider dealing him to a team like the Chiefs, where he could be reunited with his brother and play for an immediate contender. I bet the Chiefs would do it as well.  When you're at their level, filling in pieces with very good veteran players that want to play for you becomes easy. 

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

You must have missed the part where the final say on the roster was Howie's.

Name me all the teams where the GM doesn't have the final say. NE and Seattle, that's about it.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Obviously they asked him his thoughts. That doesn’t mean he gets to have the final say. 

No, but do you really think Howie would make a move that his new HC violently objected to?

Given Howie's track record, they thrashed out all the options, and chose the consensus outcomes. We just don't know what they are.

I doubt any of the reports come out of the offices of the Linc, they sound more like the proposals put forth by GMs to Howie. None of them are offers Howie "can't refuse."

I don’t want Foles anywhere near Philly. I hope we don’t create this headache again. 

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

Name me all the teams where the GM doesn't have the final say. NE and Seattle, that's about it.

You do understand how ludicrous it sounds to suggest that every other GM possesses the ability to assess a 90 man roster and trim it before the regular season?  Let alone the insight on every position group to even make the most broadest of assessments. 
 

since you asked...and the comment was in regards to who is on the final game 1 roster:

Arizona Cardinals
Atlanta Falcons
Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills
Carolina Panthers
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns
Dallas Cowboys
Denver Broncos
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Kansas City Chiefs
Las Vegas Raiders
Los Angeles Chargers
Los Angeles Rams
Miami Dolphins
Minnesota Vikings
New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints
New York Giants
New York Jets
Pittsburgh Steelers
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tennessee Titans
Washington Football Team

unless it comes down to a money/cap thing you best believe the HC is gonna be the ultimate decider 99% of the time of who’s picture is on his magnet/roster board week 1.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

You do understand how ludicrous it sounds to suggest that every other GM possesses the ability to assess a 90 man roster and trim it before the regular season?  Let alone the insight on every position group to even make the most broadest of assessments. 

I think most GMs do control the 90 man roster though don't they? The HC and his coaches then pick the 53 usually... Except in Philly apparently Howie picks the 90 and the 53 and the HC picks the 48.

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think most GMs do control the 90 man roster though don't they? The HC and his coaches then pick the 53 usually... Except in Philly apparently Howie picks the 90 and the 53 and the HC picks the 48.

Yes/no/kinda/not really/maybe

the gm is the architect of the puzzle. They take combined input from scouts/coaches/etc and collect the puzzle pieces. At the end of the day their name is stamped on the overall product. They are as the names states, the general manager. They manage the general process overall to ensure all pieces are connected. Howie isn’t out there assessing footwork of OL, talking mechanics in the QB room or is he 🤣. 

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

Howie isn’t out there assessing footwork of OL, talking mechanics in the QB room

Agreed he's not. But whatever he's doing in his process he's not doing a very good job with it. He may not be the one assessing but the process he's responsible for is not good enough and he should be held accountable for that. 

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Agreed he's not. But whatever he's doing in his process he's not doing a very good job with it. He may not be the one assessing but the process he's responsible for is not good enough and he should be held accountable for that. 

Without a doubt! 
As a chief supervisory figure, howie has done a terrible job outside of the SB year keeping the machine oiled. Outside of that the organization has been a runaway train. 
I’m not sure why anyone, including afan (who might actually be howie) can defend him. Then again afan did say Watson is a proven commodity in the nfl, but mahomes isn’t and thought dak was an udfa last night amongst other nonsense. 

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

You do understand how ludicrous it sounds to suggest that every other GM possesses the ability to assess a 90 man roster and trim it before the regular season?  Let alone the insight on every position group to even make the most broadest of assessments. 
 

since you asked...and the comment was in regards to who is on the final game 1 roster:

Arizona Cardinals
Atlanta Falcons
Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills
Carolina Panthers
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns
Dallas Cowboys
Denver Broncos
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Kansas City Chiefs
Las Vegas Raiders
Los Angeles Chargers
Los Angeles Rams
Miami Dolphins
Minnesota Vikings
New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints
New York Giants
New York Jets
Pittsburgh Steelers
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tennessee Titans
Washington Football Team

unless it comes down to a money/cap thing you best believe the HC is gonna be the ultimate decider 99% of the time of who’s picture is on his magnet/roster board week 1.

 

 

 

This isn’t accurate. Without doing a google search for all 32 teams, I know the GM has final say of the 53 in Baltimore, Buffalo, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, GB, Indy, NYG, NYJ, Philly. 

8 hours ago, hputenis said:

Stfu you anal polyp!  

you should try being a little nicer sometimes, metamucil might help

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

A little offensive to anal polyps

that was harsh sir,  I have some advice for you, if you dont mind, try sanka instead of regular coffee, it might help, do you sniff your finger, maybe you should stop

5 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Between the reported trade offers from CHI and IND, the Colts offer makes more sense but neither offer would be near close enough that Howie should pull the trigger.  
 

The Bears offer is almost useless for an Eagles team wanting to rebuild.  Why would anyone pay $9M for 2 years of Tarik Cohen when he had a terrible 2019 season and was injured almost all of 2020?  Nick Foles would be taking Hurts’ job by Week 6 but, again, that serves very little purpose towards a rebuild.

The best part of the Colts offer is probably Okereke, who is a good young LB with 2 more years on a cheap deal.  Jack Doyle is okay — nothing to get excited about — but is an experienced, somewhat inexpensive TE at $6M per year for 2 more years.  The idea of trading #37 this season to get back a 2023 2nd is awful, though.  Yasin would need to be included, as well as the 2nd being 2022.

Not a lot to get excited about with either trade, but the Bears player would need to be much better upside than Cohen

If Cohen is healthy he is a huge upgrade to Boston Scott.  I'm sure you saw how the Colts used Hines this year, Cohen is every bit the playmaker that Hines is. 2018 isn't that long ago and he had nearly 1,200 yards and 8 TD's. Obviously a question mark coming off of a down year in 2019 and torn ACL in 2020 but you are acting like the guy is some no talent bum.

8 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

Market for Wentz was always going to be tepid guys, just be glad we're getting a first in return. League doesn't view him highly anymore.

Exactly. Dude has two major injuries over his five year career. Has won zero playoff games in five years. Is coming off being the worst starting QB in the NFL. He has a huge contract. There are tons of rumblings about him being an entitled me first guy, etc etc. Yet TATE thinks they should get more than a first, Foles, and Cohen for him. It's laughable.

8 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Seriously?  A week ago people were assuming the Eagles would need to give up a 1st round pick in order to trade Wentz...some were saying 2 1st round picks.  

A lot of people around here think Wentz is something he isn't and have lost their minds recently as a result.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

This isn’t accurate. Without doing a google search for all 32 teams, I know the GM has final say of the 53 in Baltimore, Buffalo, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, GB, Indy, NYG, NYJ, Philly. 

There's lots of semantics that can be played here.  This is stemming from the statement that essentially said they just work with whatever Howie gives them.

You're forgetting Dallas on your list!  Which sadly Lowie seems to be turning into Jones.

14 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

If Cohen is healthy he is a huge upgrade to Boston Scott.  I'm sure you saw how the Colts used Hines this year, Cohen is every bit the playmaker that Hines is. 2018 isn't that long ago and he had nearly 1,200 yards and 8 TD's. Obviously a question mark coming off of a down year in 2019 and torn ACL in 2020 but you are acting like the guy is some no talent bum.

I'm not a Cohen fan at all. 2018 was his only good year, and he also had 7 fumbles that year. He did nothing the following year and now coming off an ACL injury just puts the icing on the crap cake. He is nothing to get excited about, and if Howie asked for him then he's an even bigger idiot than he already looks.

7 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

They will let anyone in these days it seems like.  

After you joined I felt the same way about this new EMB. 

I’d rather the Bear include a 7th rounder than Cohen