February 10, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Bill said: GOP is dead. Like dead dead. Only 6 voted aye yesterday. Like FFS. The right got so consumed with owning Libs that they forgot to have a platform. I’m talking about whether there will be any fight from the roughly 10 Sens you would expect to try to take a fight or not. This is the very last chance. I’m not expecting anything but this is the moment of final capitulation.
February 10, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Imp81318 said: You sound like the ultimate Tater. These 'next few days' have been the REAL test for republicans for the past 4 years. What is it going to take for you to accept that this IS the republican party? This is the last chance. The moment of final full capitulation. I expect it to happen.
February 12, 20214 yr Quote (CNN)A group of more than 100 former Republican officials have discussed the possibility of forming a "center right" party due to their unhappiness with the direction of the GOP under former President Donald Trump and the likelihood he'll be acquitted at the end of his second impeachment trial, according to Republicans who participated in the conversation. Former Republican House Rep. Charlie Dent confirmed to CNN that he and about 120 Republicans held a conversation last Friday about whether to form a new party or a new faction within the Republican Party that would operate independently from the GOP. "Clearly, there are a number of Republicans like myself and other Republican leaders, who want a clean break from President Trump, and we are kind of rallying around some core founding principles like truth and honesty, and democracy, and rule of law," the former Pennsylvania congressman, who is a CNN contributor, told CNN's Chris Cuomo Thursday. The remarkable move would exemplify how fractured the Republican Party is, but Trump still has a high approval rating among Republican voters and the two-party system has dominated the US political system for centuries. Reuters first reported on the Zoom call that included former officials who served in the GOP administrations of Trump, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan talking about the Republican Party's future and the possibility of forming a center-right breakaway party. The call came nearly a month after the January 6 insurrection on the US Capitol, when Trump supporters attempted to stop the certification of the 2020 election, believing the false claim promoted by Trump that it was stolen from him. One week later, the US House voted to impeach Trump for "incitement of insurrection," with 10 Republicans joining with Democrats. Despite the visceral presentation from House impeachment managers during Trump's Senate impeachment trial this week, Republican senators have signaled that they will vote to acquit Trump, arguing Democrats have not made a strong case that Trump's words led to the violent actions in January and that the trial is unconstitutional since Trump is a former president. Dent told CNN on Thursday that Trump is likely to be acquitted and "will not be held to account," and he will then attempt to take down Senate Republicans who vote to convict him and the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach him. "That's what I'm most fearful of now, that Trump will feel vindicated. He'll feel like he's been exonerated," Dent said, adding that he thinks Trump will try to hold those who voted against him "accountable in his own perverse way." Dent told CNN that Republicans like himself believe it's important to rally around GOP Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois and Fred Upton of Michigan, and GOP Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah, "who stood up for truth, for principle and want to make a clean break and want this party to be different." "What we want is, we don't want to cling to the past, cling to a man who is disgraced, in any way, shape, or form. We don't want to follow that man who brought nothing but defeat and misery and insurrection," Dent said. "Let's go forward, not backwards." Anthony Scaramucci, who did a very brief stint as White House communications director under Trump, also confirmed he too is a part of the discussions with other former Republican officials to form a "center-right party." "I think what's happened over the last three or four days has fortified a very large group of people" who believe that if Senate Republicans don't convict Trump that the "party is going to split into two pieces" so that it's "diluted and completely weakened," Scaramucci told CNN's Cuomo. Scaramucci predicted that Trump will be acquitted in his Senate trial and that 5-20% of the GOP will break off and start a new party. "It will be a center-right party that will be cooperative with the Democrats and it will liquidate the nonsense on the far-right," said Scaramucci. Evan McMullin and Dent both confirmed to CNN that the group was roughly split about whether to form a faction or a new party. McMullin, a former House GOP aide and current executive director of Stand Up Republic who organized the virtual meeting, told CNN on Thursday that the discussion was "primarily about creating something new to help change the direction of the party or challenge it directly." He said that if a new faction is formed, they would put forth their own Republican candidates and even, in some cases, support Democratic candidates for election. He cited Arizona Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly, who's up for a six-year term in 2022, as a candidate they would support if he were to run against a GOP candidate like Arizona Republican Party Chair Kelli Ward, a hardline Republican who has aligned herself with Trump. McMullin said Friday's call was a starting point for ongoing discussions about the policies they'd support, telling CNN that the group did discuss various social issues but will articulate their stances at a later time. He had previously told CNN's Fredricka Whitfield on Sunday that the "current direction" of the Republican Party is "destructive, both for its own interests, but most importantly, for the interests of the country." "So as extreme as some members of Congress are getting on the Republican side, as the party deals with those related issues, there's also an opportunity for renewal and rebirth, and that's what we spoke about," he said. McMullin, who ran as an Independent for president in 2016, acknowledged that the Republican Party is still largely under Trump's control. "What we're about is a new direction for the party, and we're trying to unite people who are committed to our foundational values, to democracy, and to who are desiring that, regardless of who they supported in the past, and the fact our numbers are growing is the most exciting thing about it," he said.
February 12, 20214 yr 38 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: the Center Right American Party! no...wait! dont you start talking sheet already ....
February 12, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, mr_hunt said: the Center Right American Party! no...wait! Bring back the Whigs.
February 12, 20214 yr Ron DeSantis is the future of the party and the future is bright. Hopefully the weird nevertrumpers can just go full dem and drop the false pretense of opposition.
February 12, 20214 yr On 2/10/2021 at 7:10 AM, Bill said: GOP is dead. Like dead dead. Only 6 voted aye yesterday. Like FFS. The right got so consumed with owning Libs that they forgot to have a platform. Meh, "we're not them" is a pretty strong start for a platform when you look at dem priorities. Literally all they have to do is run on a platform of lower taxes, 2A rights, and sane immigration policy. That's all pretty much everyone on the right wants. If we can throw in a policy of scaling back ME military intervention, that's gravy on top.
February 12, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: Exactly as I’ve called for. Let the ridicule reign upon me.
February 12, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Kz! said: Meh, "we're not them" is a pretty strong start for a platform when you look at dem priorities. Literally all they have to do is run on a platform of lower taxes, 2A rights, and sane immigration policy. That's all pretty much everyone on the right wants. If we can throw in a policy of scaling back ME military intervention, that's gravy on top. Nah, the right wants to do away with elections and term limits, get rid of black and brown people (not to mention the gays), pay farmers billions not to grow crops, formalize an alliance with Russia and pull us out of nato.
February 13, 20214 yr On 2/10/2021 at 7:10 AM, Bill said: GOP is dead. Like dead dead. Only 6 voted aye yesterday. Like FFS. The right got so consumed with owning Libs that they forgot to have a platform. You do realize GOP controls many state legislatures? this is huge because it allows them to control gerrymandering, which will lead to a guaranteed house GOP in 2 years. GOP is far from dead
February 13, 20214 yr 46 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: You do realize GOP controls many state legislatures? this is huge because it allows them to control gerrymandering, which will lead to a guaranteed house GOP in 2 years. GOP is far from dead The GOP is more dead than your outlook on life.
February 13, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Bill said: The GOP is more dead than your outlook on life. You wishing the GOP dead does not make it a reality, it is guaranteed the GOP takes back the house and crazy people heading committees and that will be as the virus continues to go on
February 13, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: You wishing the GOP dead does not make it a reality, it is guaranteed the GOP takes back the house and crazy people heading committees and that will be as the virus continues to go on Obviously you don’t know the difference between a wish and a lament.
February 14, 20214 yr On 2/12/2021 at 4:11 PM, Kz! said: Ron DeSantis is the future of the party and the future is bright. Hopefully the weird nevertrumpers can just go full dem and drop the false pretense of opposition. If DeSantis is the future of your party it’s in more trouble than I thought. The guy is an empty suit.
February 15, 20214 yr Looks like Lara Trump (Eric's wife) is gunning for a Senate seat in North Carolina. Lindsey Graham gave her an endorsement on Fox News.
February 15, 20214 yr 24 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said: Looks like Lara Trump (Eric's wife) is gunning for a Senate seat in North Carolina. Lindsey Graham gave her an endorsement on Fox News. Haaaaaaaail no
February 15, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said: Looks like Lara Trump (Eric's wife) is gunning for a Senate seat in North Carolina. Lindsey Graham gave her an endorsement on Fox News. She will win
February 15, 20214 yr It's now 3 months later and the needle barely budged. After peddling conspiracy theories of rigged elections, refusing to concede, and radicalizing his followers to domestic terrorism, a large majority of GOP voters still want him to remain as head of the party either as candidate or kingmaker. A large share of Republicans want Trump to remain head of the party, CNBC survey shows When it comes to Republicans, 74% want him to stay active in some way, including 48% who want him to remain head of the Republican Party, 11% who want him to start a third party, and 12% who say he should remain active in politics but not as head of any party. The poll shows Trump retains strong support among Americans without college degrees, a key demographic for the GOP: 89% of the group want him to remain in politics, including 52% who want him to stay head of the Republican Party. That’s the highest percentage of any group, and a potential warning sign for Republican Party leaders should they choose to vote to convict Trump. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/12/a-large-share-of-republicans-want-trump-to-remain-head-of-the-party-cnbc-survey.html
February 15, 20214 yr Next is Trumpstika armbands. Mandatory orange spray tanning. And a repackaged Trump version of Goebbel's Big Book of Big Lies for only $1999
February 15, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: Next is Trumpstika armbands. Mandatory orange spray tanning. And a repackaged Trump version of Goebbel's Big Book of Big Lies for only $1999 And continue to pray to the 2nd coming of their God
February 15, 20214 yr 29 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: And continue to pray to the 2nd coming of their God Because clearly, this man takes the Bible to heart. He walks the path of the Christ.
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