Nice, a deshberry who tried to throw out an election is the new speaker.

The wheels on this clown car.

Stunning.

2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

My argument isn’t really about the morality of the decision or placing blame though I agree with the scientists. I just think we have enough evidence that shows Japan was on the verge of surrender and we knew they were. 

Nah thats just mental gymnastics for some sort of virtue signalling

8 hours ago, Gannan said:

An election denier that thinks gay people should be rounded up and thrown in prison. Hold on, let me put on my surprised face...

I disagree with your lifestyle choices but prison is a bit harsh.

But seriously the GOP deserves every L they will continue to take

10 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nah thats just mental gymnastics for some sort of virtue signalling

As usual you have nothing. 

 

Welcome to the GOP.

The party of kneeling down and sucking, swallowing, and pronouncing it the tastiest thing you've ever had.

Maga Mike Johnson. Gaetz is already praising the force of Maga. So is Trump.

 

 

 

He can believe in MAGA, just not dinosaurs and evolution.

Those are crazy theories.

Who are the evolution deniers in CVON? 

16 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Who are the evolution deniers in CVON? 

I believe there was thread. Or maybe just a long conversation about creationism = religion. This may have been around when they were trying to put a creationist text book in schools in PA and the trial that took place. Back like in 2004. 

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

This was the best docuseries I saw on the subject. Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial, a Public Broadcasting Service NOVA television documentary aired in November 2007. It features interviews with Jones, witnesses, and lawyers as well as re-enacted scenes from the proceedings (no cameras were allowed in court)

 

 

 

Here is what I don't get - why did the Dems in Congress vote along with Gaetz and his group to oust McCarthy?  Seems that McCarthy was a more palpable option to them than Mike Johnson.

37 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Who are the evolution deniers in CVON? 

Probably the same ones that won't admit they voted for Trump.

1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

He can believe in MAGA, just not dinosaurs and evolution.

Those are crazy theories.

the stupid is strong in this one. 

i guess @EagleVA had a kid ? 

23 minutes ago, Procus said:

Here is what I don't get - why did the Dems in Congress vote along with Gaetz and his group to oust McCarthy?  Seems that McCarthy was a more palpable option to them than Mike Johnson.

If the squad had come out against Pelosi, and the numbers worked, you don't think Republicans would have voted to oust her? 

This is politics, not tiddlywinks. 

johnson is a walking talking ad for the dems in 2024.

 

 

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

If the squad had come out against Pelosi, and the numbers worked, you don't think Republicans would have voted to oust her? 

This is politics, not tiddlywinks. 

It was a political miscalculation.  Although for a couple of weeks there, nobody knew how this would shake out.  I don't believe anybody would have thought that somebody like Mike Johnson would snag the gavel.

And as to what Hunt said, his political views are skewed the right side, but he has something that has been absent from the political scene for quite some time now - a calm, courteous and pleasant demeanor.  He comes off like a respectful, nice guy.  In that way, Johnson is the anti-Trump at his core.

32 minutes ago, Procus said:

Here is what I don't get - why did the Dems in Congress vote along with Gaetz and his group to oust McCarthy?  Seems that McCarthy was a more palpable option to them than Mike Johnson.

Your political opponent is in disarray and wants to destroy itself. What are they supposed to do, become the GOP voice of reason?

I don't disagree that Johnson scares me in ways that Trump doesn't. He has the appearance of being competent, for one. 

Having someone competent who desires to undo the levers of Democracy and overthrow the will of the people is pretty frightening.

37 minutes ago, Procus said:

Here is what I don't get - why did the Dems in Congress vote along with Gaetz and his group to oust McCarthy?  Seems that McCarthy was a more palpable option to them than Mike Johnson.

To let the GOP continue to hang themselves, duh

5 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Your political opponent is in disarray and wants to destroy itself. What are they supposed to do, become the GOP voice of reason?

Feed rope

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Feed rope

It was a crazy question. What possible benefit for the Dems would there be to propping up McCarthy?

As for whether it's a miscalculation, time will tell. Republicans could have easily decided to try for the middle and attempt to woo a small number of Democrats to support a firmly right-of-center house leader who doesn't lick Trump's boots - a guy like Emmer. 

That they chose instead to side with Gaetz and the fire-bombing idiots who caused this whole mess with no clear plan in place on who would replace McCarthy. 

It's clear that the Republican party is being led around by the most radical, insane members. The same is not so for Dems.

It's a joke.

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

It was a crazy question. What possible benefit for the Dems would there be to propping up McCarthy?

McCarthy showed that slight capacity to compromise at the brink.  It maintains the status quo while McCarthy gets to fix Gaetz and his merry band of petulent children. 

43 minutes ago, Procus said:

Here is what I don't get - why did the Dems in Congress vote along with Gaetz and his group to oust McCarthy?  Seems that McCarthy was a more palpable option to them than Mike Johnson.

McCarthy was actively trying to impeach (without a vote) the president and had made deals with democrats only to double cross them. He was a notorious liar and scumbag. There was no way they were going to save his arse even though his successor would likely be worse.