February 13Feb 13 Acting U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Todd Lyons revealed that there are about 1.6 million illegal aliens with final deportation orders in the U.S., half of whom have criminal convictions.
February 13Feb 13 1 hour ago, justwinbaby said:No I actually came back with do it lawfully but get them out. That's bad? You all want ICE out because... why? You act like there was no outrage about this before they started and did in a way that you disagree with. So should they deport illegals? Also, why has not one single person acknowledged the SAVE act that I asked about? Wonder why that isThe outrage started when they shuttled off a couple hundred to a gulag in El Salvador in the middle of the night without due process. This isn’t new.So again for the eighth time, the negativity isn’t about deporting bad people. It is about the tactics being used. Now for once try to address the tactics. Do you support the tactics? Any you don’t like?
February 14Feb 14 Hey guys you remember the federal child prison? The federal child prison with the measles outbreak? Well it turns out they're doing psychological torture at that federal child prison. Are we winning yet?
February 14Feb 14 2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:The outrage started when they shuttled off a couple hundred to a gulag in El Salvador in the middle of the night without due process. This isn’t new.So again for the eighth time, the negativity isn’t about deporting bad people. It is about the tactics being used. Now for once try to address the tactics. Do you support the tactics? Any you don’t like?Why was there no outrage about any other president expediting illegals? Wonder why that is. Why is there only outrage in sanctuary cities and what should they do with them exactly? Should they be let roam free or be placed somewhere temporarily until they have had their due process? Do you agree that the democratic party is using illegals to vote for them? That would be the ONLY reason to vote no on the SAVE act. That is proof right there that they are using illegals to try and win elections.
February 14Feb 14 1 hour ago, justwinbaby said:Why was there no outrage about any other president expediting illegals? Wonder why that is. Why is there only outrage in sanctuary cities and what should they do with them exactly? Should they be let roam free or be placed somewhere temporarily until they have had their due process? Do you agree that the democratic party is using illegals to vote for them? That would be the ONLY reason to vote no on the SAVE act. That is proof right there that they are using illegals to try and win elections.Why are you ok with ICE breaking the law? Why are you ok with Trump violating the Constitution?
February 14Feb 14 5 hours ago, justwinbaby said:Why was there no outrage about any other president expediting illegals? Wonder why that is. Usually the only outrage is when MAGA is trying to use Obama administration deportation numbers w/r/t making a comparison with Trump numbers.Except that the Obama administration was pumping up the numbers by counting immigrants being turned away at ports of entry as a deportation when nobody else did, so the numbers themselves aren't correct.Also, the Obama administration was sued over the practice of port of entry turn aways, and they lost in court, meaning that somebody somewhere was outraged enough to actually file a lawsuit in Federal court.So, uh, yeah, guess they were outraged. I wonder why you have no knowledge of this.5 hours ago, justwinbaby said:Why is there only outrage in sanctuary cities and what should they do with them exactly? I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that MAGA, who generally don't have much of a political foothold in sanctuary cities, aren't exactly informed about the rule of law, let alone actually conducting themselves in a manner that would be consistent with the rule of law.You can see this by, gee, I dunno, the amount of law breaking going on by MAGA.5 hours ago, justwinbaby said:Should they be let roam free or be placed somewhere temporarily until they have had their due process?Case in point. If they were held prior to having due process, then they didn't get their due process, did they?5 hours ago, justwinbaby said: Do you agree that the democratic party is using illegals to vote for them? No one with any sense does. In the millions upon millions upon millions of votes cast over the last few decades, the count of documented cases of illegals voting is around 44. If it were such a widespread phenomenon, there would be, you know, widespread evidence of this. However the evidence is not there, because it is not widespread.5 hours ago, justwinbaby said:That would be the ONLY reason to vote no on the SAVE act. That is proof right there that they are using illegals to try and win elections.No, you see the main reason for voting no on the SAVE Act is due to the rampant disenfranchisement of marginalized and minority groups. MAGA intends to limit those groups abilities to vote by making getting registered prohibitive, vis a vis jumping through hoops to get government documents and the costs associated with getting those documents. Their main target are black voters, who largely live in the south, and southern states have routinely enacted measures that make it harder for them to vote, such as requiring photo IDs for voting and then closing gov't offices in majority black areas thus making it harder for them to obtain said identification.You got conned by a bunch of elites who promised you things they never intended to and will never deliver. You got had.
February 14Feb 14 Why engage with an obstinate fool who has no ability to self reflect?"Expediting illegals" is not the issue. The issue is the methods being employed to do so, which are as unconstitutional as they are cruel.Americans do not accept masked thugs of the state roaming streets of our cities brutalizing citizens, like the brown shirts of Nazì Germany. They do not accept modern day Goebbels telling these poorly trained state sponsored terrorists that they are above the law, and that instilling fear and inflicting pain is the point.MAGA cried fascism when during a pandemic that killed hundreds of thousands, state and private employers made wearing a surgical facemask to protect its workers and help prevent the spread of the disease a condition of employment.Yet you hypocrites demand citizens willingly surrender their constitutional rights to uniformed goons and "comply".You cheer when this administration specifically targets blue states, eliminating research funding, attempting to chill free speech through face-recognition fueled retribution against individual citizens, and marches the military and militia cosplayers into "blue" cities to demand obedience.Begone traitor.
February 14Feb 14 4 hours ago, Bill said:Usually the only outrage is when MAGA is trying to use Obama administration deportation numbers w/r/t making a comparison with Trump numbers.Except that the Obama administration was pumping up the numbers by counting immigrants being turned away at ports of entry as a deportation when nobody else did, so the numbers themselves aren't correct.Also, the Obama administration was sued over the practice of port of entry turn aways, and they lost in court, meaning that somebody somewhere was outraged enough to actually file a lawsuit in Federal court.So, uh, yeah, guess they were outraged. I wonder why you have no knowledge of this.I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that MAGA, who generally don't have much of a political foothold in sanctuary cities, aren't exactly informed about the rule of law, let alone actually conducting themselves in a manner that would be consistent with the rule of law.You can see this by, gee, I dunno, the amount of law breaking going on by MAGA.Case in point. If they were held prior to having due process, then they didn't get their due process, did they?No one with any sense does. In the millions upon millions upon millions of votes cast over the last few decades, the count of documented cases of illegals voting is around 44. If it were such a widespread phenomenon, there would be, you know, widespread evidence of this. However the evidence is not there, because it is not widespread.No, you see the main reason for voting no on the SAVE Act is due to the rampant disenfranchisement of marginalized and minority groups. MAGA intends to limit those groups abilities to vote by making getting registered prohibitive, vis a vis jumping through hoops to get government documents and the costs associated with getting those documents. Their main target are black voters, who largely live in the south, and southern states have routinely enacted measures that make it harder for them to vote, such as requiring photo IDs for voting and then closing gov't offices in majority black areas thus making it harder for them to obtain said identification.You got conned by a bunch of elites who promised you things they never intended to and will never deliver. You got had.
February 14Feb 14 3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:Why engage with an obstinate fool who has no ability to self reflect?"Expediting illegals" is not the issue. The issue is the methods being employed to do so, which are as unconstitutional as they are cruel.Americans do not accept masked thugs of the state roaming streets of our cities brutalizing citizens, like the brown shirts of Nazì Germany. They do not accept modern day Goebbels telling these poorly trained state sponsored terrorists that they are above the law, and that instilling fear and inflicting pain is the point.MAGA cried fascism when during a pandemic that killed hundreds of thousands, state and private employers made wearing a surgical facemask to protect its workers and help prevent the spread of the disease a condition of employment.Yet you hypocrites demand citizens willingly surrender their constitutional rights to uniformed goons and "comply".You cheer when this administration specifically targets blue states, eliminating research funding, attempting to chill free speech through face-recognition fueled retribution against individual citizens, and marches the military and militia cosplayers into "blue" cities to demand obedience.Begone traitor.American stated preference: Deport all illegals!American revealed preference: No, no! Not my friendly neighborhood illegal!
February 14Feb 14 1 hour ago, Bill said:American stated preference: Deport all illegals!American revealed preference: No, no! Not my friendly neighborhood illegal!"We're only going after violent criminals" is another one. Meanwhile they're grabbing 5 year olds and shipping them out of state.The prevailing sentiment among Americans is that aggressive prosecution of deportations should be limited to the violent undocumented.
February 14Feb 14 8 hours ago, Bill said:Usually the only outrage is when MAGA is trying to use Obama administration deportation numbers w/r/t making a comparison with Trump numbers.Except that the Obama administration was pumping up the numbers by counting immigrants being turned away at ports of entry as a deportation when nobody else did, so the numbers themselves aren't correct.Also, the Obama administration was sued over the practice of port of entry turn aways, and they lost in court, meaning that somebody somewhere was outraged enough to actually file a lawsuit in Federal court.So, uh, yeah, guess they were outraged. I wonder why you have no knowledge of this.I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that MAGA, who generally don't have much of a political foothold in sanctuary cities, aren't exactly informed about the rule of law, let alone actually conducting themselves in a manner that would be consistent with the rule of law.You can see this by, gee, I dunno, the amount of law breaking going on by MAGA.Case in point. If they were held prior to having due process, then they didn't get their due process, did they?No one with any sense does. In the millions upon millions upon millions of votes cast over the last few decades, the count of documented cases of illegals voting is around 44. If it were such a widespread phenomenon, there would be, you know, widespread evidence of this. However the evidence is not there, because it is not widespread.No, you see the main reason for voting no on the SAVE Act is due to the rampant disenfranchisement of marginalized and minority groups. MAGA intends to limit those groups abilities to vote by making getting registered prohibitive, vis a vis jumping through hoops to get government documents and the costs associated with getting those documents. Their main target are black voters, who largely live in the south, and southern states have routinely enacted measures that make it harder for them to vote, such as requiring photo IDs for voting and then closing gov't offices in majority black areas thus making it harder for them to obtain said identification.You got conned by a bunch of elites who promised you things they never intended to and will never deliver. You got had.You're wrong on literally everything you said. Where were the protests when obama never used due process? Why do ICE agents have to use masks? Because the 'peaceful protestors' I mean terrorists are threatening the families of the agents lives and giving out their home addresses and places they stay. Yeah no mention of that huh? Show me where there was outrage when obama was doing the exact same thing. You can't because it didn't happen. The law only applies when and where you want it to? Yeah keep illegals on the streets according to you idiots. What law breaking is going on? People being killed because they are breaking the law? I am fairly certain no one would have been killed if no one broke the law and didn't interfere with a federal operation you seem to conveniently not mention that. Interesting that you mention they should be held prior because the democrats are also preventing that from happening. Preventing detention centers from being opened in order to hold them. The mayor in my city just did that. Do you see what they are doing yet or are you too closed minded? Also your explanation of the SAVE act is hilarious. Why is this the only thing that democrats are pushing back on not needing an ID? Literally everything in your life you need a Fing ID until it comes to the most important thing you would use your ID for? haha it's wild how retarded you all are.
February 14Feb 14 12 hours ago, DrPhilly said:Why are you ok with ICE breaking the law? Why are you ok with Trump violating the Constitution?Why are you ignoring what I said and putting words in my mouth?
February 14Feb 14 22 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:You're wrong on literally everything you said. Where were the protests when obama never used due process? Why do ICE agents have to use masks? Because the 'peaceful protestors' I mean terrorists are threatening the families of the agents lives and giving out their home addresses and places they stay. Yeah no mention of that huh? Show me where there was outrage when obama was doing the exact same thing. You can't because it didn't happen. The law only applies when and where you want it to? Yeah keep illegals on the streets according to you idiots. What law breaking is going on? People being killed because they are breaking the law? I am fairly certain no one would have been killed if no one broke the law and didn't interfere with a federal operation you seem to conveniently not mention that.Interesting that you mention they should be held prior because the democrats are also preventing that from happening. Preventing detention centers from being opened in order to hold them. The mayor in my city just did that. Do you see what they are doing yet or are you too closed minded? Also your explanation of the SAVE act is hilarious. Why is this the only thing that democrats are pushing back on not needing an ID? Literally everything in your life you need a Fing ID until it comes to the most important thing you would use your ID for? haha it's wild how retarded you all are.You're literally wrong on everything you said. Begone traitor.
February 14Feb 14 Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:You're literally wrong on everything you said.Begone traitor.Yeah wanting the best for the country instead of burning it down and hating it and I am the traitor.
February 14Feb 14 26 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:Yeah wanting the best for the country instead of burning it down and hating it and I am the traitor.You love your country so much you're willing to torch the Constitution to save it. You're not a conservative. You're an authoritarian.A traitor.
February 14Feb 14 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:You love your country so much you're willing to torch the Constitution to save it.You're not a conservative. You're an authoritarian.A traitor.What are you even talking about?
February 14Feb 14 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:Why engage with an obstinate fool who has no ability to self reflect?"Expediting illegals" is not the issue. The issue is the methods being employed to do so, which are as unconstitutional as they are cruel.Americans do not accept masked thugs of the state roaming streets of our cities brutalizing citizens, like the brown shirts of Nazì Germany. They do not accept modern day Goebbels telling these poorly trained state sponsored terrorists that they are above the law, and that instilling fear and inflicting pain is the point.MAGA cried fascism when during a pandemic that killed hundreds of thousands, state and private employers made wearing a surgical facemask to protect its workers and help prevent the spread of the disease a condition of employment.Yet you hypocrites demand citizens willingly surrender their constitutional rights to uniformed goons and "comply".You cheer when this administration specifically targets blue states, eliminating research funding, attempting to chill free speech through face-recognition fueled retribution against individual citizens, and marches the military and militia cosplayers into "blue" cities to demand obedience.Begone traitor.Not sure how many more times I need to say this sentence. Do it lawfully, but deport ALL of them. Why are they masked? ever ask yourself that? They weren't before they started getting death threats and their families home addresses exposed on social media. Do you think the 'protestors' should be interfering with federal operations?
February 14Feb 14 I'm sure you guys are gonna make a ton of progress with a guy who still thinks Trump won the 2020 election. He's definitely someone that inhibits the same reality as the rest of us.
February 14Feb 14 1 hour ago, justwinbaby said:Why are you ignoring what I said and putting words in my mouth?I can’t understand why you support Trump violating the Constitution.
February 14Feb 14 2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:I can’t understand why you support Trump violating the Constitution.I can't believe you support Hitler
February 14Feb 14 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:I'm sure you guys are gonna make a ton of progress with a guy who still thinks Trump won the 2020 election. He's definitely someone that inhibits the same reality as the rest of us.Good thing he didn't otherwise he wouldn't have had 4 years to get ready for this amazing 2nd term.
February 14Feb 14 5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:Who? Miller?dunno I was just going with whatever you were doing. You support Hitler, right?
February 14Feb 14 Just now, justwinbaby said:dunno I was just going with whatever you were doing. You support Hitler, right?The dead guy?
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