3 minutes ago, judunno said:

Would want to give him at least through November to recover. When can you start bringing people back from IR?

They have to spend the first 6 weeks on IR. Then they have 3 weeks to decide if they will put them back on the active roster, or IR them for the season.

 

Oops, you said IR, not PUP, my bad. Short term IR is a minimum of 8 weeks from the time they are IR'd

Anyone see where Jon Runyan Jr. accidently declined the Packers draft call?

They called him back.

I think Marquise Goodwin is here as veteran in TC / insurance for injury. 

Alshon Jeffery is going to be in IR, till mid season , and activation depending on WR core injury status at the time. 

DeSean Jackson, JJAW, Greg Ward, Jalen Reagor,  Quez Watkins,  John Hightower starts the season. (I think Eagles really want to a young WR core to grow with Carson Wentz)

 

Also any chance of expanded roster with everything going on?

 

 

7 minutes ago, Redzonemadness said:

I think Marquise Goodwin is here as veteran in TC / insurance for injury. 

Alshon Jeffery is going to be in IR, till mid season , and activation depending on WR core injury status at the time. 

DeSean Jackson, JJAW, Greg Ward, Jalen Reagor,  Quez Watkins,  John Hightower starts the season. (I think Eagles really want to a young WR core to grow with Carson Wentz)

 

Also any chance of expanded roster with everything going on?

 

 

They already did some tinkering with rosters with new CBA:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28901832/nfl-cba-approved-players-get-new-deal-how-expanded-playoffs-schedule-work

The game-day active roster will increase from 46 to 48 players (although one of the extra players must be an offensive lineman, which will give teams more flexibility to have three extra linemen). Practice squads will expand from 10 players to 12 in 2020 and 2021 and to 14 starting in 2022. Practice-squad salaries also are going up -- the minimum salary is $8,000 per week in the current CBA, and it will rise to $11,500 by 2022 -- and those players will be eligible for 401(k) and tuition assistance benefits.

Two practice-squad players per week may be elevated to the team's roster, meaning game-week roster sizes could effectively increase from 53 to 55. And a player elevated from the practice squad to the 55-man roster could be sent back to the practice squad two times without having to clear waivers.

20 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

They have to spend the first 6 weeks on IR. Then they have 3 weeks to decide if they will put them back on the active roster, or IR them for the season.

 

Oops, you said IR, not PUP, my bad. Short term IR is a minimum of 8 weeks from the time they are IR'd

Isn't there a limit on short term IR's? If there are I wouldn't waste one on that rat

7 minutes ago, allphilly said:

Isn't there a limit on short term IR's? If there are I wouldn't waste on on that rat

I think IR just gives them the option to bring him back if the others really really struggle and we are in contention. 

8 minutes ago, allphilly said:

Isn't there a limit on short term IR's? If there are I wouldn't waste on on that rat

I think only the temp IR and pup list. Full season IR, no. Thats a guess though, not 100%

35 minutes ago, allphilly said:

Isn't there a limit on short term IR's? If there are I wouldn't waste one on that rat

From what I understand, there is no designated short term IR. As many go on IR as needed, but only 2 can be brought back after being on for 8 weeks.

My first impression is this Eagles draft is about a B-

There is a tendency to overrate how many of these picks will be on the 53 and contribute vs how many will not make the team, or not have an impact in a larger sense.  My guess on who will be the best of these picks:

Reagor — will be an Eagle for 6-8 years and a solid #2 WR.  The Eagles might still be looking for a true WR1, or they might have enough solid depth for a committee 

Hurts — will be an Eagle for 3 years.  By design he will never supplant Wentz as #1, but he will be an X factor/joker, get a few snaps per game as a spark and to stay ready, and whenever Wentz goes out with injury Hurts’ job will keep the offense (and season) on track.  He might well get traded to be a #1 elsewhere if Doug is able to display him as a weapon

Taylor — I worry about this pick.  He’s fast and has upside, but he’s very raw.  He is my leading candidate to be a complete bust, unfortunately 

Wallace — my pick to become the best pick of the draft.  I believe he will be the starter at strong safety in 2021 and will play at least two contracts as an Eagle.  Hoping for a boom pick here

Of the later round picks I believe one of Hightower/Watkins will stick and be roster players for 3-4 years.  My hope is at least one of the LB and one of the OL will be a diamond in the rough as well.

If the Eagles come away with 4 good starters and 2 contributors as depth players this will go down as a really good draft.  That might be a tough ask, but I believe Reagor, Wallace, Hightower and Hurts (yes Hurts) will make solid contributions in their first contracts.

Howie had a nice day 3, but after that Hurts crap he doesn't get any credit.

4 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

Nope. Wasn't aware of his expected date of return. If that's the case then he should put on the PUP/IR list. 

I wouldn’t be shocked if they just put him on IR. It basically removes him from everything but treatment for his injury. They could then take him off to try and trade him/cut him or leave him there unless they absolutely must bring him back due to injuries lm

4 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

My first impression is this Eagles draft is about a B-

There is a tendency to overrate how many of these picks will be on the 53 and contribute vs how many will not make the team, or not have an impact in a larger sense.  My guess on who will be the best of these picks:

Reagor — will be an Eagle for 6-8 years and a solid #2 WR.  The Eagles might still be looking for a true WR1, or they might have enough solid depth for a committee 

Hurts — will be an Eagle for 3 years.  By design he will never supplant Wentz as #1, but he will be an X factor/joker, get a few snaps per game as a spark and to stay ready, and whenever Wentz goes out with injury Hurts’ job will keep the offense (and season) on track.  He might well get traded to be a #1 elsewhere if Doug is able to display him as a weapon

Taylor — I worry about this pick.  He’s fast and has upside, but he’s very raw.  He is my leading candidate to be a complete bust, unfortunately 

Wallace — my pick to become the best pick of the draft.  I believe he will be the starter at strong safety in 2021 and will play at least two contracts as an Eagle.  Hoping for a boom pick here

Of the later round picks I believe one of Hightower/Watkins will stick and be roster players for 3-4 years.  My hope is at least one of the LB and one of the OL will be a diamond in the rough as well.

If the Eagles come away with 4 good starters and 2 contributors as depth players this will go down as a really good draft.  That might be a tough ask, but I believe Reagor, Wallace, Hightower and Hurts (yes Hurts) will make solid contributions in their first contracts.

If Hurts finds a way to be a good enough talent to be a first round pick he’s going nowhere. You need to re-evaluate, because being a "gadget player” isn’t going to merit him being a 1st round talent. Him player well because Wentz is hurt will, but that also means Wentz is hurt again! So think about it. You getting rid of the young guy who played himself into being considered a 1st round pick or are you getting rid of the 30 year old on a bad contract with more injuries than you can count?

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

If Hurts finds a way to be a good enough talent to be a first round pick he’s going nowhere. You need to re-evaluate, because being a "gadget player” isn’t going to merit him being a 1st round talent. Him player well because Wentz is hurt will, but that also means Wentz is hurt again! So think about it. You getting rid of the young guy who played himself into being considered a 1st round pick or are you getting rid of the 30 year old on a bad contract with more injuries than you can count?

Do you think before Wentz's contract is up in the next couple of years Hurts shows the organization that he is capable they will consider trading Wentz? Now you're talking potentially a multi-pick haul and the rebuild begins a bit early.

47 minutes ago, judunno said:

Do you think before Wentz's contract is up in the next couple of years Hurts shows the organization that he is capable they will consider trading Wentz? Now you're talking potentially a multi-pick haul and the rebuild begins a bit early.

I don’t know. That depends on if Wentz gets hurt again, how well Hurts plays, and how long Carson is out. 

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

If Hurts finds a way to be a good enough talent to be a first round pick he’s going nowhere. You need to re-evaluate, because being a "gadget player” isn’t going to merit him being a 1st round talent. Him player well because Wentz is hurt will, but that also means Wentz is hurt again! So think about it. You getting rid of the young guy who played himself into being considered a 1st round pick or are you getting rid of the 30 year old on a bad contract with more injuries than you can count?

I'll cross that bridge when we get there.

12 minutes ago, Infam said:

I'll cross that bridge when we get there.

You might need to cross that bridge much sooner than you realize. Well the Eagles will anyways. 

16 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Taylor — I worry about this pick.  He’s fast and has upside, but he’s very raw.  He is my leading candidate to be a complete bust, unfortunately .

And compare him to the LB picked 4 spots later Akeem Davis-Gaither from App State at the the top of the 4th round.

 

Just now, NVeagle said:

And compare him to the LB picked 4 spots later Akeem Davis-Gaither from App State at the the top of the 4th round.

 

Have to say I did like what I saw on Akeem Davis-Gaither and thought he would have been a better option at #103.

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Have to say I did like what I saw on Akeem Davis-Gaither and thought he would have been a better option at #103.

Hurts would have been at 103.

Wanted WR Mims at 53 or CB Fulton.

2 minutes ago, NVeagle said:

Hurts would have been at 103.

Wanted WR Mims at 53 or CB Fulton.

Yes... But Hurts may not have fallen that far and I am absolutely OK with them not taking Hurts at all.

1 minute ago, NVeagle said:

Hurts would have been at 103.

Wanted WR Mims at 53 or CB Fulton.

It was a gamble. If we could have gotten that AND Hurts, it would be insane. But they liked Hurts so much they didn't want to gamble with it. I respect that.

Honestly, I think that he might have been picked by the Patriots at 71. Feels like that kind of move for them.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yes... But Hurts may not have fallen that far and I am absolutely OK with them not taking Hurts at all.

Bet Howie was trying to Hurt(s) the Cowpukes who he thought might pick Hurts in the 3rd.

Note that Hurts was the only QB picked in rounds 2 & 3.

Already posted it in the Hurts thread, but this is a good piece on Hurts way to the draft.

 

4 hours ago, NVeagle said:

Hurts would have been at 103.

Wanted WR Mims at 53 or CB Fulton.

I think Hurts would have been taken early Round 3; he's a QB and his college stats are just too good.  This is why it wasn't just about taking a backup QB in the 2nd round -- they wanted this player and want to develop a package of plays for him.  It would have been easy to wait until pick #103 and take the gamble that Fromm or Eason would still be there if they just wanted to develop a generic #2 QB.  Unfortunately the Eagles tried a 5th round developmental QB in Thorson and he didn't even make it out of training camp.  They tried to develop a 6th round draftee in Sudfeld, but he's shown nothing at all in 3 years so far.  

My assumption at #53 was that the Eagles would jump all over Denzel Mims.  They had him to the facility, they spoke with him numerous times through the process -- right before the pick was announced I was sure he'd be the selection.  DEN had just gone WR-WR with their first 2 picks and I thought the Eagles would do the same.  Passing on Mims for how much interest they showed in him, has to mean Pederson and Mornhinweg discussed and planned a lot regarding Hurts