Just now, What The F said:

So whos out? 

Jackson

Jeffery

Whiteside

Ward

Goodwin 

Reagor 

Hightower 

Jeffrey, and they keep 6 WR'S.

Just now, What The F said:

So whos out? 

Jackson

Jeffery

Whiteside

Ward

Goodwin 

Reagor 

Hightower 

Jeffery 

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Reagor and Goodwin aren't speed projects.

 

Reagor needs work, his coach today on WIP even said he needs a lot of work to have success in the next level. Is he improvement, yes. But needs work. His coach said he will have to work on run blocking, route running and ways to break off the press better. he said they didnt use him enough and he could have been even better so thats a good sign. But surprisingly his coach was very up front and realistic about his weakness and what he needs to get better at. he did say he is a great listener and learner. 

Goodwin just sucks. I think everyone is pretty much on the same idea of that. he has not done crap in this league and hes already 29-30 years old? Dont see Goodwin as an improvement. Hes depth in case of injury

1 minute ago, What The F said:

So whos out? 

Jackson

Jeffery

Whiteside

Ward

Goodwin 

Reagor 

Hightower 

Alshon for sure.

19 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Some of you are complete and total morons. The Hurts pick was horrible. However, complaining about turning 146 into 196, 200, 233, and a 5th in 2021 is laughable. That is insane asset management and stockpiling of picks. At this point in the draft you want more lottery tickets. Adding Reagor, Goodwin, and Hightower when the offense was the slowest in the league last year was also incredibly smart. It's ok to not hate or love the entire draft and pick and choose certain elements of it that are good and bad.

Just because you have speed doesn't make you a effective offense. It works for the Chiefs but some of the best offenses of all time weren't fast. This is moronic. Its stupid to trade away from value no matter what round it is. Its stupid. 

Just now, What The F said:

So whos out? 

Jackson

Jeffery

Whiteside

Ward

Goodwin 

Reagor 

Hightower 

Jeffery isn't going anywhere and hopefully he stays healthy this season. I think DJax might get cut. Not sure about any guaranteed in DJax's contract. Whiteside will be on the trade block in the pre-season and potentially cut. Goodwin might not make the team.

So been cleaning my 2nd round pick rage away all day finally decided to pop in and see how its going on here.

Me thinks too many people listened to Trump and have been drinking bleach.

Get a grip peeps!😒

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

Reagor needs work, his coach today on WIP even said he needs a lot of work to have success in the next level. Is he improvement, yes. But needs work. His coach said he will have to work on run blocking, route running and ways to break off the press better. he said they didnt use him enough and he could have been even better so thats a good sign. But surprisingly his coach was very up front and realistic about his weakness and what he needs to get better at. he did say he is a great listener and learner. 

Goodwin just sucks. I think everyone is pretty much on the same idea of that. he has not done crap in this league and hes already 29-30 years old? Dont see Goodwin as an improvement. Hes depth in case of injury

Depth in case of injury for a guy who's always injured 😞 I think he's actually fine when he's on the field.

9 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

 

I disagree its a pure speed game. yes KC won the SB last year but was not because of just speed. They have one speed guy in Hill. Patrick Mahomes is not super fast, Watkins is fast but not out of this world. they won with overall good players and good coaching.

KC was the only speed team who won the SB recently. Pats the year before? Us the year before? pats again? it was one year a team with one speed guy won the SB. there defense is not fast, HB not fast, QB avg speed. 

 

Exactly what I'm saying. These guys are missing the boat completely if they think the Chiefs won the Super Bowl because of speed. 

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

Reagor needs work, his coach today on WIP even said he needs a lot of work to have success in the next level. Is he improvement, yes. But needs work. His coach said he will have to work on run blocking, route running and ways to break off the press better. he said they didnt use him enough and he could have been even better so thats a good sign. But surprisingly his coach was very up front and realistic about his weakness and what he needs to get better at. he did say he is a great listener and learner. 

Goodwin just sucks. I think everyone is pretty much on the same idea of that. he has not done crap in this league and hes already 29-30 years old? Dont see Goodwin as an improvement. Hes depth in case of injury

Oh my god, a late first round pick who isn't a perfect prospect and needs some work on certain things, the horror. The guy is fast and a dynamic playmaker and you can't teach any of that. Also, blocking, REALLY. You are bringing up our first round WR's need to improve his blocking. Please stop.

Goodwin had 900 yards two years ago and averages 16 ypc for his career. His problem has been staying healthy. They also got him for free. Complaining about him and saying he sucks exposes you as being negative for the sake of being negative.

Just now, T-1000 said:

You are using so much 20/20 hindsight to be critical of their direction which is a major flaw. They have done a couple of really good things, one really stupid thing, and some stuff in between.

It's not 20/20 yet, it would be once we see how the players work out in the NFL.  Right now it's about the draft prospects which no one knows how anyone will work out.

Not hindsight, looking at the current board and situation. 

4 minutes ago, What The F said:

So whos out? 

Jackson

Jeffery

Whiteside

Ward

Gibson 

Goodwin 

Reagor 

Hightower 

alshon to IR and gibson out

1 minute ago, judunno said:

Depth in case of injury for a guy who's always injured 😞 I think he's actually fine when he's on the field.

7 years 2,300 yards, 13 TDs, Not impressed. 

For just swapping 6ths, fine. Dont see it as an improvement though. Depth

 

This is why Jeffery isn't going anywhere.

DJax also probably can't be moved on from easily with his contract. Trading DJax post 6/1 would be a cap saving if any team were willing.

3 minutes ago, RICWOOFLAIR said:

Just because you have speed doesn't make you a effective offense. It works for the Chiefs but some of the best offenses of all time weren't fast. This is moronic. Its stupid to trade away from value no matter what round it is. Its stupid. 

They were THE slowest team on tape last season according to Greg Cosell. It's a speed game, and not just the Chiefs. Also, what is this ''value they traded away from'' you are speaking of.

I'd like to see a TE, RB and DB with the rest of the picks.

This draft would have been a lot different with a stud LB/CB in round 2. But if Hurts is the real deal, Taylor turns into a stud and Maddox/Jones can lock down the CB2 spot, then it's hard to argue with the draft.

Ultimately, wins and losses are all the matter. No one wins a Super Bowl in April. 

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Oh my god, a late first round pick who isn't a perfect prospect and needs some work on certain things, the horror. The guy is fast and a dynamic playmaker and you can't teach any of that. Also, blocking, REALLY. You are bringing up our first round WR's need to improve his blocking. Please stop.

Goodwin had 900 yards two years ago and averages 16 ypc for his career. His problem has been staying healthy. They also got him for free. Complaining about him and saying he sucks exposes you as being negative for the sake of being negative.

Your too sensitive. Im not saying hes a bust, LOL. Saying he does need some work and not ready yet. Im going just by what his coach said he needed to work on. But you want to read what you want instead of reading whats written. 

Goodwin has 2,300 yards in 7 years. You bring up one season he did well out of 7. Great % there. Im much more hopeful now with that stat. Thank you

7 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

There’s no way corner was a bigger need than safety. 

They need both, made free agent signings at both.  But corner is pretty weak apart from Slay.

4 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

7 years 2,300 yards, 13 TDs, Not impressed. 

For just swapping 6ths, fine. Dont see it as an improvement though. Depth

 

Depth is certainly improvement after what happened last year. And pretty much didn't give up anything to kick the tires.

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

Your too sensitive. Im not saying hes a bust, LOL. Saying he does need some work and not ready yet. Im going just by what his coach said he needed to work on. But you want to read what you want instead of reading whats written. 

Goodwin has 2,300 yards in 7 years. You bring up one season he did well out of 7. Great % there. Im much more hopeful now with that stat. Thank you

Not being sensitive, just pointing out your stupid takes. Acting like a late first round pick with some things to work isn't common and complaining about a WR's blocking is silly. They got Goodwin for nothing and are most likely counting on him to be a depth guy at best. Complaining about a move like that when you take into account context is also a really bad take.

We just went from starting Greg Ward, Davis and Burnett at the end of 2019 to DJax, Reagor and Hightower in 2020. Don’t understand the complaints. 

10 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

You can't fill every need in one draft when you have so many. Again, another flaw to your argument. Hate the Hurts pick and dislike some of their picks, I get that because I agree. Being critical of everything including adding speed and athletic traits to a roster that was slow and getting old is kind of silly.

You're twisting the argument.  I didn't say I'm critical of speed.  I said they were so focused on speed they didn't care that the WRs they took have issues with drops and bad hands.  And they used 3 picks on speed WRs instead of at least 1 pick on more rounded skill set receiver like Mims or Higgins.

And you can't fill every need of course.  But they had opportunities to get a DE, better LB and a corner.  i do like the Driscoll pick.

Just now, T-1000 said:

Not being sensitive, just pointing out your stupid takes. Acting like a late first round pick with some things to work isn't common and complaining about a WR's blocking is silly. They got Goodwin for nothing and are most likely counting on him to be a depth guy at best. Complaining about a move like that when you take into account context is also a really bad take.

I SAID HIS COACH SAID HE NEEDED TO WORK ON HIS RUN BLOCKING

Would you like me to read it back to you in slow mode, LOL

Maybe you need to go back up and reread what I wrote instead of coming up saying I stated it. 

5 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Your too sensitive. Im not saying hes a bust, LOL. Saying he does need some work and not ready yet. Im going just by what his coach said he needed to work on. But you want to read what you want instead of reading whats written. 

Goodwin has 2,300 yards in 7 years. You bring up one season he did well out of 7. Great % there. Im much more hopeful now with that stat. Thank you

Goodwin is depth and we got him for the equivalent of a juggs machine and a bucket of crab fries. 

Soon time for more trades I mean picks