1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Unless the follow up controlled study data shows no benefit. Then of course the anecdotal data means very little. Just like hydroxychloroquine. 

For parasites. Which are a teensie bit different than viruses. 

We are in an emergency situation. Peoples lives are on the line. We can't wait for controlled studies to be completed. 

 Because a drug is effective with one condition, that doesn't mean it is effective with that one condition only. Ivermectin has been shown to be a protease inhibitor.

4 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

We are in an emergency situation. Peoples lives are on the line. We can't wait for controlled studies to be completed. 

 Because a drug is effective with one condition, that doesn't mean it is effective with that one condition only. Ivermectin has been shown to be a protease inhibitor.

 

I can't wait to see what the next Rogan drug dijour is

6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

 

 

It is.

The same rationale for the widespread use of an expensive, experimental "vaccine" can be thrown back as the rationale for the emergency use of cheap, well known compounds. 

1 minute ago, Abracadabra said:

It is.

The same rationale for the widespread use of an expensive, experimental "vaccine" can be thrown back as the rationale for the emergency use of cheap, well known compounds. 

Except there's so much more evidence of the effectiveness of the vaccine it's not even funny.  Your reluctance to take the effective solution but desire to take ineffective one when you see them both as insufficiently studied is proof that the only reason you reject the vaccine is because you're in a partisan cult.  Which is completely insane since, as you point out, we're in an emergency situation and lives are on the line.

1 hour ago, Abracadabra said:

So, it's a safe drug. Now, in order to meet the CDC's own guidelines for repurposing medications during a mass casualty situation, we just need to see some indication that it might be beneficial in treating Covid. The anecdotal evidence for that is, at least, notable. 

This is the most ignorant thing you have said, in a very long line of very ignorant statements.

Water in the wrong dosage, will kill you.

Aspirin is wonderful stuff, but probably not while you are bleeding out.

If you go to your doctor for anecdotal evidence . . . .well, you figure it out.

Just now, Toastrel said:

This is the most ignorant thing you have said, in a very long line of very ignorant statements.

Water in the wrong dosage, will kill you.

Aspirin is wonderful stuff, but probably not while you are bleeding out.

If you go to your doctor for anecdotal evidence . . . .well, you figure it out.

Ah, so now the objection to Ivermectin is dander of overdose? LOL!

We know the safe dosage range for Ivermectin. It's a weight-based calculation.

2 hours ago, Abracadabra said:

I've done no research, as I am not a researcher and YouTube videos are not research.

Fair enough.

Can someone please explain to me why there are folks who think an anti parasite drug is good for fighting a virus?  It's like drinking Neosporin for a broken arm

1 minute ago, paco said:

Can someone please explain to me why there are folks who think an anti parasite drug is good for fighting a virus?  It's like drinking Neosporin for a broken arm

'Tussin!

1 minute ago, paco said:

Can someone please explain to me why there are folks who think an anti parasite drug is good for fighting a virus?  It's like drinking Neosporin for a broken arm

This is not a difficult concept. It's called dual-use.

Just now, Abracadabra said:

This is not a difficult concept. It's called dual-use.

I can use a garden shovel to eat soup, but that doesnt mean its a good idea.

 

Why do you believe it is effective against a virus?

Just now, paco said:

I can use a garden shovel to eat soup, but that doesnt mean its a good idea.

 

Why do you believe it is effective against a virus?

It's a protease inhibitor. It will prevent the virus from replicating and thus keep viral loads low. Lower viral load will allow the immune system a better chance to overcome the infection.

1 minute ago, Abracadabra said:

It's a protease inhibitor. It will prevent the virus from replicating and thus keep viral loads low. Lower viral load will allow the immune system a better chance to overcome the infection.

Not all protease inhibitors are antivirals. 

Just now, paco said:

Not all protease inhibitors are antivirals. 

All viruses need protease to replicate.

 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

 

This is her third time getting it I believe. Winning!

56 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

Ah, so now the objection to Ivermectin is dander of overdose? LOL!

We know the safe dosage range for Ivermectin. It's a weight-based calculation.

I am pointing out that your ideas on medication are insane.

You know the safe dosage range for Ivermectin for COVID?

No, you don't. That is a bald faced lie. Why do that? Have you no integrity

3 minutes ago, Toty said:

Not the ones in the ice wall

Please share you Notsee knowledge from the outer rim.

Just now, Toastrel said:

I am pointing out that your ideas on medication are insane.

You know the safe dosage range for Ivermectin for COVID?

No, you don't. That is a bald faced lie. Why do that? Have you no integrity

There is a safe dosage for Ivermectin in people. This isn't even debatable. 

Prescriptions of Ivermectin to treat Covid are within that safe range. 6-12 mg of Ivermectin is not dangerous.

A sublineage of omicron under investigation, seems to be spreading a bit faster than OG omicron according to the UK/Denmark but that's as much as they know so far. No word yet on ability to outcompete or breakthrough.

18 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

All viruses need protease to replicate.

And you do know there are many different protease enzymes, which is why you have many anti viral and anti parasitic medicines.  Because they each target a specific protease enzyme.

 

So now that I understand your POV, let me ask the same question with more focus.   Why do you believe an anti parasitic drug targets the correct protease enzyme that COVID needs?

3 minutes ago, Toty said:

ask your life partner EagleVAG... he's building an argon-filled zeppelin for the trip.

EagleVA is an amateur. I receive regular updates from my very own spirit guide- Madam Blavatsky herself.

7 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

There is a safe dosage for Ivermectin in people. This isn't even debatable. 

Prescriptions of Ivermectin to treat Covid are within that safe range. 6-12 mg of Ivermectin is not dangerous.

Prescriptions of ice cream bars to treat COVID are also in the safe range. As is treating COVID with sugar pills, or treating COVID with chicken soup.

There is a safe Ivermectin dosage to take for many things:

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Ivermectin is extensively metabolized in the liver and should be used cautiously in patients with hepatic disease. Dosage adjustments may be needed, although specific recommendations are not currently available. The manufacturer does not recommend that ivermectin treatment be excluded in patients with liver disease.

Clinical trials of ivermectin did not include sufficient numbers of patients aged 65 and over to determine whether they respond differently from younger patients. Other reported clinical experience has not identified differences in responses between elderly and younger patients. In general, treatment of elderly patients should be cautious, reflecting the greater frequency of decreased hepatic, renal, or cardiac function, and of concomitant disease or other drug therapy.

Safety and effectiveness in pediatric patients weighing less than 15 kg have not been determined.

 

2 minutes ago, paco said:

And you do know there are many different protease enzymes, which is why you have many anti viral and anti parasitic medicines.  Because they each target a specific protease enzyme.

 

So now that I understand your POV, let me ask the same question with more focus.   Why do you believe an anti parasitic drug targets the correct protease enzyme that COVID needs?

Because there are positive reports of success from all over the world. From India to Africa, the use of Ivermectin has literally knocked Covid out of the population where used. The details can be determined later. Right now, we have a potential cure/preventative which is being suppressed.