January 21, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Which word did he use that you considered "fancy"? rubes
January 21, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: first of all, that figure is 6 mos old. second, you're falling for the same base rate fallacy that Kz does. if nearly 100% of high risk individuals are vaccinated, you're going to get a lot of individuals who are vaccinated in the hospital. this is the case in Israel. you have to look at the per capita rates. among ALL vaccinated in Israel, a very small percentage end up hospitalized. among ALL unvaccinated, a MUCH HIGHER percentage are hospitalized. extreme example to illustrate: say there's 100 people. 95 of them get vaccinated. 4 of the 5 unvaccinated end up in the hospital. 6 of the 95 vaccinated end up in the hospital. 60% of the people in the hospital are vaccinated. HOW CAN THE VACCINE BE EFFECTIVE OMGZ!??!? well, 6 of the 95 - or 6.3% - vaccinated ended up in the hospital. meanwhile 80% of the unvaccinated did. the tweet @we_gotta_believe shared shows rates, which is the correct approach. it's the rate per 100k of population that was hospitalized. THAT is the correct number when comparing populations of significant varying sides. the 60% are hospitalized is clickbait for idiots. 65% of Israelis are fully "vaccinated" and 60% of hospitalized are vaccinated. HOW CAN THE VACCINE BE EFFECTIVE OMGZ!??!?
January 21, 20224 yr 19 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: rubes So functionally illiterate? 11 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: And I'm the rube? As you just demonstrated, apparently yes.
January 21, 20224 yr Just now, mikemack8 said: This place is boring anymore It's not as fun when Kz doesn't come in and white knight for you.
January 21, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: This place is boring anymore Easy with the fancy words there, Shakespeare!
January 21, 20224 yr 10 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: 65% of Israelis are fully "vaccinated" and 60% of hospitalized are vaccinated. HOW CAN THE VACCINE BE EFFECTIVE OMGZ!??!? Yeah, if you count kids. Israel is one of the youngest nations in the world, with around 28% of the population being 0-14 years old. For reference, the US is less than 20%. The UK less than 18. Israel's adult population has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world.
January 21, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah, if you count kids. Israel is one of the youngest nations in the world, with around 28% of the population being 0-14 years old. For reference, the US is less than 20%. The UK less than 18. Israel's adult population has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. Fewer kids get vaccinated and fewer kids get hospitalized because the virus doesn't really affect kids all that much. X them out of the equation. The vast majority of those hospitalized are elderly whether vaccinated or not.
January 21, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Fewer kids get vaccinated and fewer kids get hospitalized because the virus doesn't really affect kids all that much. X them out of the equation. The vast majority of those hospitalized are elderly whether vaccinated or not. Right. So once you take kids out of the equation, around 80% of adults in Israel are vaccinated which counts for 60% of hospitalizations. The remaining 20% that are unvaccinated accounts for 40% of hospitalizations. So you're more likely to end up in the hospital if unvaccinated. 87% of hospitalizations are age 60 and over.
January 21, 20224 yr 36 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Fewer kids get vaccinated and fewer kids get hospitalized because the virus doesn't really affect kids all that much. X them out of the equation. The vast majority of those hospitalized are elderly whether vaccinated or not. Uh, yeah. Exactly. Exclude kids from this group and you're looking at vaccination rates north of 80% for the general adult population. Look at the most at-risk - the elderly, etc. - and you're over 90%, with a lot of them also having gotten the booster. Thank you for making my point.
January 21, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, mikemack8 said: This place is boring anymore Swing over to the January 6th thread. Loads of fun over there.
January 21, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Swing over to the January 6th thread. Loads of fun over there. Kz and his concubine @mikemack8 here have been shying away from those threads lately.
January 21, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Kz and his concubine @mikemack8 here have been shying away from those threads lately. It's mostly devolved into a thread making fun of Abracadabra at this point.
January 21, 20224 yr 6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: It's mostly devolved into a thread making fun of Abracadabra at this point. I saw earlier. I ducked out because, like a few people that frequent this sub forum, @Abracadabra refuses to answer simple direct questions.
January 21, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, toolg said: Right. So once you take kids out of the equation, around 80% of adults in Israel are vaccinated which counts for 60% of hospitalizations. The remaining 20% that are unvaccinated accounts for 40% of hospitalizations. So you're more likely to end up in the hospital if unvaccinated. 87% of hospitalizations are age 60 and over. We still don't know if there are other factors which might account for the difference. What about co-morbidities?
January 21, 20224 yr 11 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: We still don't know if there are other factors which might account for the difference. What about co-morbidities? So who killed MLK? Is Biden a lizard or an android? Are his pressers all CGI? I need to know and you just won't tell me!
January 22, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Im waiting for some of you vaccinated Fers to die of blood cancer.
January 22, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Im waiting for some of you vaccinated Fers to die of blood cancer. Since I'm a normal person, I'm not waiting for anyone to die. But then again, I haven't drank myself into oblivion, so my thoughts might be skewed a bit.
January 22, 20224 yr 41 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Since I'm a normal person, I'm not waiting for anyone to die. But then again, I haven't drank myself into oblivion, so my thoughts might be skewed a bit. If you werent an actual arsehole you wouldnt have bothered responding.
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