January 29, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Toty said: This is a clown show. I certainly dont show up here for the intellectual conversations. On the other hand I do get to test out a few theories. 😉
January 29, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Toty said: you have a problem with clowns, buddy? Not at all. I try to acknowlege people for who the are. Manage expectations
January 29, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Only two of us in the house. I'm not sick, and she is. Someone's gotta get toilet paper. CDC says I don't need to quarantine and should go to work. I wear a KN95 and keep my distance as much as possible. There are options. People can drop stuff off. Around here groceries can be dropped off. From another perspective your choice to potentially infect others for toilet paper is no more or no less "selfish" or selective based on your own wants.
January 29, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, lynched1 said: There are options. People can drop stuff off. Around here groceries can be dropped off. From another perspective your choice to potentially infect others for toilet paper is no more or no less "selfish" or selective based on your own wants. Meh, I'm following the recommendations and not really leaving the house for anything non-essential. At the same time, I kinda need stuff to do because I'm living on the bottom floor, trying to keep occupied, and stay away from her as much as possible to not pick it up. If I test positive, I'll self-isolate the best I can, but they're still gonna make me come to work, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
January 29, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Meh, I'm following the recommendations and not really leaving the house for anything non-essential. At the same time, I kinda need stuff to do because I'm living on the bottom floor, trying to keep occupied, and stay away from her as much as possible to not pick it up. If I test positive, I'll self-isolate the best I can, but they're still gonna make me come to work, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I get that. I'm not even suggesting I'd do differently. I haven't and wouldn't. "As best I can" to the point I'm willing.
January 30, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: It’s honestly Such an easy thing to fake why would anyone pay someone else to do it for them?
January 30, 20223 yr So Trudeau if it was a small fringe minority, why the need to go into hiding. Trump and him are bunker boys together.
January 30, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Toty said: I just received a rare PM from EagleVA stating that Abracadabra "bleaches his butthole". I don't know why anyone would do that, and I know it's none of our business, but I thought I'd pass it along. And EagleVa is doing fine, the syphilis seems to be in remission. He appreciates your thoughts and prayers. I probably shouldn't say this, but this board is fairly anonymous so wtf. I know his doctor. His syphilis is most definitely not in remission.
January 30, 20223 yr https://brownstone.org/articles/now-is-the-time-for-mass-resignations-from-within-the-ruling-class/ Now is the Time for Mass Resignations from Within the Ruling Class BY JEFFREY A. TUCKER JANUARY 30, 2022 If there is a historical precedent for the truckers’ revolt in Canada, and the populist protests in so many other parts of the world, I would like to know what it is. It surely sets the record for convoy size, and it is historic for Canada. But there is much more going on here, something more fundamental. The two-year imposition of bio-fascist rule by diktat seems ever less tenable – the consent of the governed is being withdrawn – but what comes next seems unclear. We now have two of the most restrictive "leaders” in the developed world (Justin Trudeau of Canada and Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand) hiding in undisclosed locations, citing the need to quarantine following Covid exposure. Streets globally have filled up with people demanding an end to mandates and lockdowns, calling for accountability, pushing for resignations, denouncing privileged corporations, and crying out for a recognition of basic freedoms and rights. Note too that these movements are spontaneous and from "below:” they are populated mostly by the very workers whom governments shoved to face the pathogen two years ago, while the ruling class hid behind their laptops in their living rooms. It was the lockdowns that sharply divided the classes and the mandates that are imposing segregation. Now we are facing a modern allegory to the peasants’ revolt in the Middle Ages. For a long time, the workers complied bravely but have been forced to accept medical shots they neither wanted nor believed they needed. And many are still being denied freedoms they took for granted only two years ago, their schools non-operational, businesses wrecked, places of entertainment closed or severely restricted. People turn on the radios and televisions to listen to lectures by ruling-class elites who claim to be channeling the science that always ends in the same theme: the rulers are in charge and everyone else must comply, no matter what is asked of them. But then it became screamingly obvious to the world that none of it worked. It was a gigantic flop and the sky-high cases of late 2021 in most parts of the world put a fine point on it. They failed. It was all for naught. This clearly cannot continue. Something has to give. Something has to change, and this change probably will not wait for the next scheduled elections. What happens in the meantime? Where is this going? We’ve seen what revolutions look like against monarchies (18th and 19th century), against colonial occupation, against totalitarian one-party states (1989-90), and against banana-republic strongmen (20th century). But what does revolution look like in developed democracies ruled by entrenched administrative states in which elected politicians serve as little more than veneer for bureaucracies? Since John Locke, it is an accepted idea that people have the right to rule themselves and even to replace governments that go too far in denying that right. In theory, the problem of government overreach in democracy is solved by elections. The argument made for such a system is that it allows for peaceful change of a ruling elite, and this is far less socially costly than war and revolution. There are many problems with matching theory and reality, among which that the people with the real power in the 21st century are not the people we elect but those who have gained their privileges through bureaucratic maneuvering and longevity. There are many strange features of the last two years but one of them that stands out to me is how utterly undemocratic the trajectory of events has been. When they locked us down, for example, it was the decision of elected autocrats as advised by credentialled experts that were somehow sure that this path would make the virus go away (or something like that). When they imposed vaccination mandates, it was because they were sure that this was the right path for public health. There were no polls. There was little if any input from legislatures at any level. Even from the first lockdowns in the US, occurring March 8, 2020 in Austin, Texas, there was no consultation with the city council. Neither were citizens asked. The wishes of the small business people were not solicited. The state legislature was left out entirely. It was as if everyone suddenly presumed that the whole country would operate on an administrative/dictatorship model, and that the guidelines of health bureaucracies (with plans for lockdowns that hardly anyone even knew existed) trumped all tradition, constitutions, restrictions on state power, and public opinion generally. We all became their servants. This happened all over the world. It suddenly became obvious to many people in the world that the systems of government we thought we had – responsive to the public, deferential to rights, controlled by courts – were no longer in place. There seemed to be a substructure that was hiding in plain sight until it suddenly took full control, to the cheers of the media and the presumption that this is just the way things are supposed to be. Years ago, I was hanging out in the building of a federal agency when there was a change of guard: a new administration appointed a new person to head it. The only change that the bureaucrats noticed was new portraits on the wall. Most of these people pride themselves in failing to notice. They know who is in charge and it is not the people we imagine to elect. They are there for life, and face none of the public scrutiny much less accountability that the politicians face daily. Lockdowns and mandates gave them full power, not only over the one or two sectors they previously ruled but the whole of society and all of its functioning. They even controlled how many people we could have in our homes, whether our businesses could be open, whether we could worship with others, and dictate what precisely we are supposed to do with our own bodies. Whatever happened to limits on power? The people who put together the systems of government in the 18th century that led to the most prosperous societies in the history of the world knew that restricting government was the key to a stable social order and growing economy. They gave us Constitutions and the lists of rights and the courts enforced them. But at some point in history, the ruling class figured out certain workarounds to these restrictions. The administrative state with permanent bureaucrats could achieve things that legislatures could not, so they were gradually unleashed under various pretexts (war, depression, terror threats, pandemics). Moreover, governments gradually learned to outsource their hegemonic ambitions to the biggest businesses in the private sector, who themselves benefit from increasing the costs of compliance. The circle has been completed by enlisting Big Media into the mix of control via access to the class of rulers, to receive and broadcast out the line of the day, and hurl insults at any dissidents within the population (“fringe,” etc.). This has created what we see in the 21st century: a toxic combination of Big Tech, Big Government, Big Media, all backed by various other industrial interests who benefit more from systems of control than they would from a free and competitive economy. Further, this cabal leveled a radical attack on civil society itself, closing churches, concerts, and civic groups. We’ve been assured by David Hume (1711-1776) and Etienne de la Boétie (1530-1563) that government rule is untenable when it loses the consent of the governed. "Resolve to serve no more,” wrote Boetie, "and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall off his own weight and break into pieces.” That’s inspiring but what does it mean in practice? What precisely is the mechanism by which the overlords in our time are effectively overthrown? We’ve seen this in totalitarian states, in states with one-man rule, in states with unelected monarchies. But unless I’m missing something, we’ve not seen this in a developed democracy with an administrative state that holds the real power. We have scheduled elections but those are unhelpful when 1) elected leaders are not the real source of power, and 2) when the elections are too far in the distant future to deal with a present emergency. One very easy and obvious path away from the current crisis is for the ruling class to admit error, repeal the mandates, and simply allow for common freedoms and rights for everyone. As easy as that sounds, this solution hits a hard wall when faced with ruling-class arrogance, trepidation, and the unwillingness to admit past errors for fear of what that will mean for their political legacies. For this reason, absolutely no one expects the likes of Trudeau, Ardern, or Biden to humbly apologize, admit that they were wrong, and beg the people’s forgiveness. On the contrary, everyone expects them to continue the game of pretend so long as they can get away with it. The people on the streets today, and those willing to tell pollsters that they are fed up, are saying: no more. What does it mean for the ruling class not to get away with this nonsense anymore? Presuming that they do not resign, they do not call off the dogs of mandates and lockdowns, what is the next step? My instincts tell me that we are about to discover the answer. Electoral realignment seems inevitable but what happens before then? The obvious answer to the current instability is mass resignations within the administrative state, among the class of politicians that gives it cover, as well as heads of media organs that have propagandized for them. In the name of peace, human rights, and the renewal of prosperity and trust, this needs to happen today. Bury the pride and do what’s right. Do it now while there is still time for the revolution to be velvet.
January 31, 20223 yr North Carolina man would rather 'die free' than get vaccine needed for life-saving transplant https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-man-vaccine-kidney-transplant-denied-rather-die-free 'I was born free. I will die free,' the man said Actually, you were born as a serf to your British colonial overlords. Duh.
January 31, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, The_Omega said: https://brownstone.org/articles/now-is-the-time-for-mass-resignations-from-within-the-ruling-class/ Mass resignations would be a good start, then we need to aggressively prosecute the tyrants and imprison them.
January 31, 20223 yr Deaths from the mild cold seem to be outpacing deaths from the mild flu at a staggering rate.
January 31, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Deaths from the mild cold seem to be outpacing deaths from the mild flu at a staggering rate. Or with the mild cold. But that accurate distinction remains lost on many.
January 31, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, The_Omega said: https://brownstone.org/articles/now-is-the-time-for-mass-resignations-from-within-the-ruling-class/ Quote Years ago, I was hanging out in the building of a federal agency when there was a change of guard: a new administration appointed a new person to head it. And then everyone stood and clapped.
January 31, 20223 yr Just now, The_Omega said: Or with the mild cold. But that accurate distinction remains lost on many. Fine, use excess mortality then. Doesn't matter how you track it or which metric you use, the facts are obvious. It's literally the same argument you guys already tried in 2020 and in 2021, and we all see how that turned out.
January 31, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Fine, use excess mortality then. Doesn't matter how you track it or which metric you use, the facts are obvious. It's literally the same argument you guys already tried in 2020 and in 2021, and we all see how that turned out. Excess mortality when there's an overdose epidemic sweeping the nation that's been exacerbated by Covid hysteria? Sounds legit.
January 31, 20223 yr Ya totally, sure seems weird how tightly aligned all those opioid deaths are with covid deaths when plotted together. Just a coincidence, I'm sure. Can't possibly be because covid is actually killing people, nah must be something else. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
January 31, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Ya totally, sure seems weird how tightly aligned all those opioid deaths are with covid deaths when plotted together. Just a coincidence, I'm sure. Can't possibly be because covid is actually killing people, nah must be something else. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker Naahhh it's more likely there have been a million or so extra OD deaths that slipped through unnoticed.
January 31, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ya totally, sure seems weird how tightly aligned all those opioid deaths are with covid deaths when plotted together. Just a coincidence, I'm sure. Can't possibly be because covid is actually killing people, nah must be something else. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker Leading cause of death in the country of those 18-45 is fentanyl overdoses.
January 31, 20223 yr Very interesting thread here. In the last seven days 62% of all covid deaths in Massachusetts have been vaccinated. Wow. That's big, if true.
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