February 2, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, Toastrel said: FreedomJab? Go with some free FreedomFries in the waiting room after the jab.
February 2, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Go with some free FreedomFries in the waiting room after the jab. PatriotPunch? MAGAShot?
February 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: I just received updated COVID guidelines from a Swedish company I consult with two days a week. I wonder if new ones are coming, not that it matters to me as a contractor.
February 2, 20223 yr U.S. Army begins to discharge soldiers who refuse COVID-19 vaccination https://www.npr.org/2022/02/02/1077625142/u-s-army-covid-vaccination Quote The Army said it will "immediately begin separating Soldiers from the service" who refuse to be vaccinated or who don't have an approved or pending request for exemption. "Army readiness depends on Soldiers who are prepared to train, deploy, fight and win our nation's wars," said Secretary of the Army Christine Wormuth. "Unvaccinated Soldiers present risk to the force and jeopardize readiness." Soldiers who are discharged for refusing to be vaccinated "will not be eligible for involuntary separation pay" and may have to return any unearned special or incentive pay, the Army said. Indeed.
February 2, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Toastrel said: I just received updated COVID guidelines from a Swedish company I consult with two days a week. I wonder if new ones are coming, not that it matters to me as a contractor. Probably so. Feb 9th is the last day with restrictions and measures. Formal announcement to be made tomorrow.
February 2, 20223 yr @DrPhilly 1) This is where you seem to be carrying the "masks don't work" line. Unless I missed something, the article didn't say that they don't work, just that at some point they seemed to stop working as well. So, like I said, the reduction in effectiveness needs to be studied and maybe protocols need to be adjusted, but just dropping the requirements altogether would be premature. If we don't know why the rates were different, then we need to find out why before we start dropping masks in school. 2) What is speculation? I'm describing exactly what the article at least heavily implies under the banner of dropping masks in school. The argument they are trying to make is that since atudies haven't isolated the effects of masks alone then we can't consider them reliable for mitigation 3) I still have yet to see anyone reliably quantify the "cost to kids" of wearing masks outside of very young age groups in very specific settings 4) Where are you getting the idea that masks "don't add anything?" Even your own article seems to indicate that they're a mitigating factor but the the specific degree of mitigation provided is unknown. Do we throw the baby out with the bathwater? 5) Ok, but just because kids weren't showing symptoms with earlier strains doesn't mean in any way that they weren't carrying and transmitting it. 6) Ok, but we really do need more information on how Omicron spreads until we can safely say that outdoors is just as safe as ever. 7) Again, "costs" seem to be largely assumed and poorly defined. 8) Are you really comparing a hand to a mask for reducing the spread of pathogens? 9) Ok 10) They're really not that uncomfortable, maybe a little annoying. If we need to develop special masks that are comfortable for kids, so be it. 11) Masks work. Why do you keep insisting that there isn't data to show this? 12) But I pointed out exactly how I'm coming to this assessment and where the logic is flawed. So many of the claims made are highly spurious and largely rely on the notion that if some things are unclear and the data incomplete, then we know nothing (like whether masks work or not).
February 2, 20223 yr @EaglesRocker97 I’m on my phone now and night winding down. I’ll get back to you tomorrow.
February 2, 20223 yr 38 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: @EaglesRocker97 I’m on my phone now and night winding down. I’ll get back to you tomorrow. Sheesh, I just did all that on a phone. I was waiting forever to go through a car wash, so I didn't have much going on. Not much I can do right now, but I figured going through a drive-through car wash was one of them. It was much-needed after the wintry weather we've been getting. On a side note, the hospital by me just opened up a drive-thru test site today. They were doing a "soft rollout." I figured it was convenient and free, so why not get another PCR since I keep getting negative rapid tests and have no symptoms. It was really quick, in and out in less than 5 minutes. I don't think a lot of people knew about it opening up. Only reason I knew was because they mentioned it on NPR last night. I believe it's a federally-funded testing site.
February 2, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Maybe if they name it TrumpVax or something like that we can get them to take it. Give them a free signed autograph of Trump when they get their shot. Call it "trump juice” I’m imagining a little jingle on sports talk radio….”trump juice trump juuuuuice” 🎶
February 2, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Toastrel said: I'm sure all the anti-vaxxers will change their minds now. Why do you care?
February 2, 20223 yr Dr. Leana Wen, whose medical opinion I respect, was just on BBC news and had some good takes that even @DrPhilly might appreciate. Here are my cliff notes: She said that, "in areas where the infections are trending seriously downward" we should be looking to relax restrictions. We need to take a more locally targeted approach, and infections should be largely trending downward soon. We need a "serious, evidence-based conversation about the utility of masks in schools" (Me: Yes, key word is "evidence-based) where most of the school population is vaccinated. However, many in the 5-12 age range still aren't fully vaccinated yet. I think the implication is that it might be too soon to stop masking just yet, and some places might need to longer, but we can start talking about what the conditions should be for rolling back masking. "Can't wait until everyone is vaccinated and boosted until we let the people who have been doing everything right get back to a state of relative normalcy." We can't keep living like it's still 2020 or 2021, because the conditions are different. We are in a better place to manage this. We have high-quality masks, more testing, and more treatments." We need to look at health and wellbeing overall and can't remain in this state forever. She mentioned the overdose epidemic as a area in need of attention. I don't really have a problem with anything she said. I just think we need to push through this winter wave first before we really start relaxing things, and that seems to be what she's saying here while also trying to give hope for the near future. Brighter days are ahead, we just have to hold the line a little longer.
February 2, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Kz! said: I've got to apologize to napoleon. It takes bravery to rock cargo pants without a belt while tucking in a dress shirt and wearing a tie. Little dude is brave. My man spittin hot fire. I wish I could drop bars like that.
February 2, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Why do you care? I'm not a drunken idiot. This is my country. I live here. That enough, cupcake?
February 3, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, Toastrel said: I'm not a drunken idiot. This is my country. I live here. That enough, cupcake? I live here too and I have to suffer you inbreds. What's your point dork?
February 3, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Dr. Leana Wen, whose medical opinion I respect, was just on BBC news and had some good takes that even @DrPhilly might appreciate. Here are my cliff notes: She said that, "in areas where the infections are trending seriously downward" we should be looking to relax restrictions. We need to take a more locally targeted approach, and infections should be largely trending downward soon. We need a "serious, evidence-based conversation about the utility of masks in schools" (Me: Yes, key word is "evidence-based) where most of the school population is vaccinated. However, many in the 5-12 age range still aren't fully vaccinated yet. I think the implication is that it might be too soon to stop masking just yet, and some places might need to longer, but we can start talking about what the conditions should be for rolling back masking. "Can't wait until everyone is vaccinated and boosted until we let the people who have been doing everything right get back to a state of relative normalcy." We can't keep living like it's still 2020 or 2021, because the conditions are different. We are in a better place to manage this. We have high-quality masks, more testing, and more treatments." We need to look at health and wellbeing overall and can't remain in this state forever. She mentioned the overdose epidemic as a area in need of attention. I don't really have a problem with anything she said. I just think we need to push through this winter wave first before we really start relaxing things, and that seems to be what she's saying here while also trying to give hope for the near future. Brighter days are ahead, we just have to hold the line a little longer. Thanks. Moving forward with devil in the details as it should be.
February 3, 20223 yr As promised, Swedish govt announced this morning that all COVID restrictions will be lifted as of Feb 9th. Of course there a few key recommendations still in place and namely concerning the strong recommendation to vaccinate. The broader and more formal declaration of the end of the pandemic level itself cannot be made by the sitting govt and must be taken by the parliament. So that formality remains. I understand that may be taken rather quickly and possibly even today. Regarding "back to work", most companies are going to move to a 51% "in office" scenario. This is a compromise between allowing people to work from home, which has proven to work well for most people, and also gain back the camaraderie, etc that is gained from face to face working scenarios. The 51% is a nod to the tax system in that the formal "work place" will still be the office and that places a lower burden on employers in terms of equipment, conditions, etc that would otherwise be placed on them to sort out each employees' home work environment.
February 3, 20223 yr @EaglesRocker97 Dropping a reply as a PM. Happy to post it here if anyone is interested.
February 3, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, DrPhilly said: @EaglesRocker97 Dropping a reply as a PM. Happy to post it here if anyone is interested. No thanks.
February 3, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, Kz! said: No lies detected: I mean, two months ago was two months ago: right before the holidays with Omicron in full-force. The holiday season has ended and latest wave appears to be cresting, so there should be a change in perspective. I'll admit that the shift in messaging has been very dramatic, though. I definitely think there's a sense among political leadership, though, that the tone needs to change ahead of the midterms.
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