June 19, 20232 yr diabetes is not mentioned anywhere in that LA Times article, and child diabetes in Sweden has been a problem for a long time. I still think Sweden's approach here was a swing and miss - especially comparing the cumulative death rates between neighboring nations. But the tweet is also misleading.
June 19, 20232 yr 25 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: @DrPhilly Munson sent me this. FYI Funny one. There are a few things in the article that are correct. Many others are not. Anyway thanks for sharing this 15 month old article.
June 19, 20232 yr Does anyone actually still get the boosters or is everyone an "anti-vaxxer" at this point?
June 19, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: diabetes is not mentioned anywhere in that LA Times article, and child diabetes in Sweden has been a problem for a long time. I still think Sweden's approach here was a swing and miss - especially comparing the cumulative death rates between neighboring nations. But the tweet is also misleading. Some good points in the article which we’ve discussed many times before but plenty lacking as well. The neighboring nation item being one of them particularly given the huge difference in immigration populations and the disparity in flu seasons from the year before the pandemic started. The big mistake in Sweden was not protecting the elderly in the nursing homes. Getting started late wirh restrictive measures was another. The denial of care is always questionable but that is a fact in socialistic health care systems which a level of rationing is always part of normal policy.
June 19, 20232 yr A more recent comparison from this year puts Sweden about at average for Europe (better than countries like Italy, UK, and Poland, worse than countries like Denmark, France, and the rest of Scandinavia). Countries like Japan and South Korea were the most effective at limiting loss of life without the far more restrictive forms of lockdowns seen in countries like NZ and Australia. Sweden's problem was being too slow to react to the emerging data showing airborne transmission and not picking the lower hanging fruit like indoor mask mandates which basically costs nothing economically. Their vaccine rollout also wasn't as efficient as it could've been.
June 19, 20232 yr 32 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Some good points in the article which we’ve discussed many times before but plenty lacking as well. The neighboring nation item being one of them particularly given the huge difference in immigration populations and the disparity in flu seasons from the year before the pandemic started. The big mistake in Sweden was not protecting the elderly in the nursing homes. Getting started late wirh restrictive measures was another. The denial of care is always questionable but that is a fact in socialistic health care systems which a level of rationing is always part of normal policy. There's always going to be multiple factors involved, but even eliminating nursing home deaths puts Sweden way out ahead of neighbors. While external factors will impact things, it's a difficult argument to make that Sweden's regional outlier policy wasn't the primary contributor to its regional outlier Covid mortality rates.
June 19, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: A more recent comparison from this year puts Sweden about at average for Europe (better than countries like Italy, UK, and Poland, worse than countries like Denmark, France, and the rest of Scandinavia). Countries like Japan and South Korea were the most effective at limiting loss of life without the far more restrictive forms of lockdowns seen in countries like NZ and Australia. Sweden's problem was being too slow to react to the emerging data showing airborne transmission and not picking the lower hanging fruit like indoor mask mandates which basically costs nothing economically. Their vaccine rollout also wasn't as efficient as it could've been. Population density plays in.
June 19, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: @DrPhilly Munson sent me this. FYI 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: diabetes is not mentioned anywhere in that LA Times article, and child diabetes in Sweden has been a problem for a long time. I still think Sweden's approach here was a swing and miss - especially comparing the cumulative death rates between neighboring nations. But the tweet is also misleading. 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: Funny one. There are a few things in the article that are correct. Many others are not. Anyway thanks for sharing this 15 month old article. The teachers aide sends Dave an article. Dave posts it on here. Article immediately picked apart from moderates on both sides. It's as predictable as a Phillies June surge.
June 19, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, paco said: The teachers aide sends Dave an article. Dave posts it on here. Article immediately picked apart from moderates on both sides. It's as predictable as a Phillies June surge. @JohnSnowsHair, notable CVON "moderate."
June 19, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I’m just the messenger since he’s like… banned and stuff. Is he still banned? I thought they were going to lift it but he declined?
June 19, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Is he still banned? I thought they were going to lift it but he declined? F no - that freak is perma-banned. You think he would have declined the opportunity to come back in here and profess his love for trannies some more? He's living in a state of tranny euphoria these days
June 19, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: F no - that freak is perma-banned. You think he would have declined the opportunity to come back in here and profess his love for trannies some more? He's living in a state of tranny euphoria these days I thought everyone got a clean slate with the new board. From my understanding he hasn't been back since then.
June 19, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I thought everyone got a clean slate with the new board. From my understanding he hasn't been back since then. he posted a bit, but rolled. i guess he'd rather get ragged on by IGY.
June 19, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: he posted a bit, but rolled. i guess he'd rather get ragged on by IGY. Now that you say that, I think he registered under a different name then got banned once it was found out who he was
June 19, 20232 yr Just now, mikemack8 said: Now that you say that, I think he registered under a different name then got banned once it was found out who he was Really? What did he do to get banned from the new board in the first place?
June 19, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: Really? What did he do to get banned from the new board in the first place? I rarely went into CVON on the old board, but I think he harassed/doxxed another poster
June 19, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I rarely went into CVON on the old board, but I think he harassed/doxxed another poster Yeah, doxxing is a huge no-no in any situation.
June 19, 20232 yr He came back under another name. It was pretty funny, though, because before he was banned he was pretty much a board pariah on the old emb. When he came back he had all the libtards in here pinching themselves over his posts. Shows how far left the board has swung since the good old days.
June 19, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: He came back under another name. It was pretty funny, though, because before he was banned he was pretty much a board pariah on the old emb. When he came back he had all the libtards in here pinching themselves over his posts. Shows how far left the board has swung since the good old days. What was his username?
June 19, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: What was his username? I don't remember. Probably something about blowing dudes.
June 19, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: he posted a bit, but rolled. i guess he'd rather get ragged on by IGY. So I guess CF is still alive then. And by CF, not the board that hosts an all white boy fantasy football draft.
June 19, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: I don't remember. Probably something about blowing dudes. Damn, I was going to go back and like all his posts. Ah well.
June 19, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, paco said: So I guess CF is still alive then. And by CF, not the board that hosts an all white boy fantasy football draft. yes it is.
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