July 11, 20206 yr 18 hours ago, Lloyd said: I heard them chanting about forced gender reassignment surgery funded by Soros and Bill Gates! They've gone too far! Any word on that anti-capitalist loser Buffet?
July 11, 20206 yr I remember quite a few times as a student spending the entire day at home depot when I was supposed to be at my high school. They are so similar I would get confused and mix them up all the time.
July 11, 20206 yr 3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: They have no good reasons safety wise to open schools. That’s why you are hearing generic statements like "just do it.” "If Home Depot can be open schools can be open.” "Kids aren’t at risk anyway.” The last statement they don’t want to push too hard because while It does seem children aren’t high risk, they are still at risk. There more than likely be some children deaths when school reopen. I'll say this... Whatever your opinions on how Sweden handled this, one fact stands out to me: they kept schools open for those under 16 and there was only one COVID-19 death in that age group. And that death was someone under 10, and I have not been able to determine if that child was school age or not. I'm not someone who endorses aggressive opening up. But the data we have suggests it may not be nearly as crazy as it appears to open schools with appropriate caution.
July 11, 20206 yr 26 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'll say this... Whatever your opinions on how Sweden handled this, one fact stands out to me: they kept schools open for those under 16 and there was only one COVID-19 death in that age group. And that death was someone under 10, and I have not been able to determine if that child was school age or not. I'm not someone who endorses aggressive opening up. But the data we have suggests it may not be nearly as crazy as it appears to open schools with appropriate caution. What are the long term effects if any of COVID? Because I posted this last week British neurologists have now published shocking details in the journal "Brain," which suggests SARS-CoV-2 can cause severe brain damage — even in patients with mild symptoms or those in recovery. Often this damage is detected very late or not at all. Neurologists at the University College London (UCL) diagnosed acute demyelinating encephalomyelitis (ADEM) in nine British COVID-19 patients. This inflammatory disease causes a degenerative destruction of the central nervous system, affecting the myelin sheaths of the nerves in the brain and spinal cord. Different degrees of damage Of the 43 patients examined, 12 suffered from inflammation of the central nervous system, 10 from a transient encephalopathy (brain disease) with delirium or psychosis, eight from strokes, and a further eight from problems of the peripheral nerves, mostly with the diagnosis of Guillain-Barré syndrome. This is an immune reaction that attacks the nerves and causes paralysis and is fatal in 5% of cases. A 59-year-old woman died of the complication. "Severe brain damage possible after COVID-19" https://amp.dw.com/en/coronavirus-brain-damage/a-54111054
July 11, 20206 yr 22 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'll say this... Whatever your opinions on how Sweden handled this, one fact stands out to me: they kept schools open for those under 16 and there was only one COVID-19 death in that age group. And that death was someone under 10, and I have not been able to determine if that child was school age or not. I'm not someone who endorses aggressive opening up. But the data we have suggests it may not be nearly as crazy as it appears to open schools with appropriate caution. Yeah but the rational argument against it is to protect the kids parents and grandparents. I'd encourage everyone that is interested to get as much facts as possible. Don't just go by say a NY Times article which doesn't show the full picture. Sweden is really an interesting case here and it is really hard to draw any final conclusions at this point. What we know though is that the numbers of deaths are high per capita so far vs. neighboring countries with similar context but that the numbers never swamped the hospitals and that the rates have been dropping consistently now for a couple of months and we look to have actually controlled the curve (albeit at a cost). I'm not so sure there is a right or a wrong here and every single situation is completely unique based on a ton of factors, e.g. population density, culture, etc. but there is something to be learned from each situation.
July 11, 20206 yr 32 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'll say this... Whatever your opinions on how Sweden handled this, one fact stands out to me: they kept schools open for those under 16 and there was only one COVID-19 death in that age group. And that death was someone under 10, and I have not been able to determine if that child was school age or not. I'm not someone who endorses aggressive opening up. But the data we have suggests it may not be nearly as crazy as it appears to open schools with appropriate caution. I admittedly don’t know what circumstances Swedish schools operated under like average school size and average class size as well as what precautions they had set up and how much social distancing/masks etc were in place. The thing that disturbs me is the general attitude from the government of "just do it, but do it full capacity, 5 days a week.” Then you have the whole debacle of CDC guidelines are too strict they need to be eased. There is no clear direction for anyone to follow, which is just going to be a disaster. And if they do all reopen and we only have a few deaths of children, that’s going to be looked at as a success and that is horrifying.
July 11, 20206 yr 8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: I admittedly don’t know what circumstances Swedish schools operated under like average school size and average class size as well as what precautions they had set up and how much social distancing/masks etc were in place. The thing that disturbs me is the general attitude from the government of "just do it, but do it full capacity, 5 days a week.” Then you have the whole debacle of CDC guidelines are too strict they need to be eased. There is no clear direction for anyone to follow, which is just going to be a disaster. And if they do all reopen and we only have a few deaths of children, that’s going to be looked at as a success and that is horrifying. I can tell you. I live here in Stockholm. No masks. You will see maybe 2 out of 100 people wearing a mask. So literally almost no one has a mask on at any time. That measure was never put in place. The school sizes are fairly similar to US sizes say 25 per class or so. General social distancing was in play in public. People are pretty much to themselves anyway so it worked fine. The level of cleanliness both personally but also out in public is very very good which also helps. Stores have plexiglass protecting the cashiers and they have painted squares on the floor to show how much to distance. Public transport was mostly sparse in the beginning but by the middle of May it was more or less back to normal in terms of how people felt about it BUT was still light since people were working from home. Probably 90% of all office workers have worked from home since early March. Gatherings of more than 50 were and still are prohibited. Some restaurants/bars were temporarily shutdown for not obeying the rules. People had to sit at tables (no standing in a bar area) and be served by personnel. Distance was setup between tables. The rules were 2 meters but that has now been reduced to 1 meter so it is nearly back to normal.
July 11, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, mayanh8 said: Looks like the 2-3 week lag between cases and deaths might be catching up to FL. For some reason they are saying now it’s only 95 and that 188 was an error. Not sure how there can be that big of an error
July 11, 20206 yr 13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Septic shock with organ failure but at least he owned the libs voting no mask I mean clearly hes in the hospital with septic shock and organ failure, not covid. The media will do anything to hype this thing up. - some idiot
July 11, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: Yeah but the rational argument against it is to protect the kids parents and grandparents. I'd encourage everyone that is interested to get as much facts as possible. Don't just go by say a NY Times article which doesn't show the full picture. Sweden is really an interesting case here and it is really hard to draw any final conclusions at this point. What we know though is that the numbers of deaths are high per capita so far vs. neighboring countries with similar context but that the numbers never swamped the hospitals and that the rates have been dropping consistently now for a couple of months and we look to have actually controlled the curve (albeit at a cost). I'm not so sure there is a right or a wrong here and every single situation is completely unique based on a ton of factors, e.g. population density, culture, etc. but there is something to be learned from each situation. Sure. There are additional things to consider, including the potential long-term impacts to survivors of COVID-19 and the impacts of having these kids as potential carriers of the diseases to higher risk groups. I'm just adding a bit of data from what is a real-world control group of sorts during this pandemic. Irrespective of individual feelings on the approach Sweden took, the data coming out of Sweden in contrast to areas that instituted stricter controls is very useful.
July 11, 20206 yr 8 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Sure. There are additional things to consider, including the potential long-term impacts to survivors of COVID-19 and the impacts of having these kids as potential carriers of the diseases to higher risk groups. I'm just adding a bit of data from what is a real-world control group of sorts during this pandemic. Irrespective of individual feelings on the approach Sweden took, the data coming out of Sweden in contrast to areas that instituted stricter controls is very useful. Yes it is and it is also crucial to understand the context and also look closely at the numbers. Deaths reported in Sweden are based on "with COVID” and not "by COVID” for example.
July 11, 20206 yr 2 hours ago, BirdsFanBill said: I mean clearly hes in the hospital with septic shock and organ failure, not covid. The media will do anything to hype this thing up. - some idiot Because of COVID he has these things, that and being 200lbs overweight
July 11, 20206 yr 2 hours ago, VanHammersly said: I can't find where she said this. Anyone have a link?
July 11, 20206 yr I think this would be fun to post on your social media Lower cognitive ability linked to non-compliance with social distancing guidelines during the coronavirus outbreak https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/covidiot-study-lower-cognitive-ability-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak-57293
July 11, 20206 yr 30 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Check out this verbal diarrhea from the article: "When you have a flatter curve, which Florida has—I mean if you look at the Northeast, they went boom...Florida,Texas, we’re just much flatter. It means it goes on longer, and so you know we said you wanted a flatter curve but this is drawn out over a longer period of time.” Dafuq?!?
July 11, 20206 yr 11 minutes ago, Dawkins 20 said: Check out this verbal diarrhea from the article: "When you have a flatter curve, which Florida has—I mean if you look at the Northeast, they went boom...Florida,Texas, we’re just much flatter. It means it goes on longer, and so you know we said you wanted a flatter curve but this is drawn out over a longer period of time.” Dafuq?!? He’s running out of excuses. The mental gymnastics being put on display is truly impressive.
July 12, 20206 yr 4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said: He’s running out of excuses. The mental gymnastics being put on display is truly impressive. Problem is things continue escalate as the clown show goes on, and the people of Florida are paying for it. Gotta start calling mayors.
July 12, 20206 yr 6 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said: I think this would be fun to post on your social media Lower cognitive ability linked to non-compliance with social distancing guidelines during the coronavirus outbreak https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/covidiot-study-lower-cognitive-ability-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak-57293 Interesting article, follows the natural selection theory. If I were to post it on Facebook... it would be called fake news. So that’s where I’m at.
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