So asking the more informed than me in here. What is the obsession with hydroxychloroquine when there already is remdesivir just sitting there that is in the same "might kinda work" generalization? Is there a reason other than political that "Dr's" are hell bent on hydroxy "working"?

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

You can still slow it down enough to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. There is a balance we can strike if we had actual leadership willing to tell people that they're going to need to make sacrifices.

Unfortunately you have a lot of entitled babies in this country that think being asked to wear a mask is tantamount to fascism. 

Yeah we slowed it down initially.  But we aren’t a country that is set up to Survive in a climate like that.  We are an instant gratification society built around selfishness and entitlement where we only care about each other when it benefits oneself. We actually have the perfect leader right now for how we are built. 

50 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

The disease does not care about borders.

 

The virus got to New Zealand the same way it got to the US.

They took measures. The US choked on a D

Sure it does. 

Logistically, it's exponentially more difficult to control a virus when dealing with 350 million people over 3.7 million square miles than it is when dealing with 5 million people on a 100k square mile island.

That's the equivalent of having a business plan from your kid's lemonade stand and presenting it to Minute Maid (Coca Cola corporation) and saying, "Why didn't you do this?....you would have done much better."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

So asking the more informed than me in here. What is the obsession with hydroxychloroquine when there already is remdesivir just sitting there that is in the same "might kinda work" generalization? Is there a reason other than political that "Dr's" are hell bent on hydroxy "working"?

Hydroxy is much cheaper.  I don't think it is unfair to question Fauci, who is in deep with big Pharma, pushing the more expensive remdesivir over hydroxy.  But Trump is just bonkers chasing the unicorn of redemption.  He is simply too stupid (not ignorant, STUPID) to understand that even if by dumb luck he was right, he was still wrong to push it before the studies came in.

If anyone was wondering "is Jalen Mills dumb enough to fall for demon sperm" the answer is, yes. 

What misinformation did he give out that he has to hold a press conference for 

Trumps goes full "Marsh Marsha Marsha”

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"It's interesting: he's got a very good approval rating. And I like that, it's good," he went on. "Because remember: he's working for this administration. He's working with us. We could have gotten other people. We could have gotten somebody else. It didn't have to be Dr. Fauci. He's working with our administration. And for the most part we've done what he and others -- and Dr. Birx and others -- have recommended."

Trump continued: "And he's got this high approval rating. So why don't I have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration -- with respect to the virus? We should have it very high."

"So it sort of is curious," Trump said, "a man works for us, with us, very closely, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx also, very highly thought of -- and yet, they're highly thought of, but nobody likes me?

 

South Carolina intends to let STUDENT TEACHERS teach SOLO in their own classrooms to spread kids out.  That means uncertified, unqualified, barely out of diapers, babysitters will be teaching kids (for free). Let that sink in.  Still wanna send kids back into that?  I fear that more than the virus.  

1 minute ago, DBW said:

South Carolina intends to let STUDENT TEACHERS teach SOLO in their own classrooms to spread kids out.  That means uncertified, unqualified, barely out of diapers, babysitters will be teaching kids (for free). Let that sink in.  Still wanna send kids back into that?  I fear that more than the virus.  

So a minor step down in quality

9 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Well, that's the thing, it really didn't get into New Zealand much.  On March 19th, they stopped most foreign travel into their country, and any returning citizens were required to quarantine for 2 weeks.

And we went into a full blown lockdown. First 3.5 weeks, only supermarkets and pharmacies open. Couldn’t even get ubereats. Next three weeks they slowly lifted restrictions. I’d argue we were overly cautious on that front but did get active cases in the population to zero and now the one thing we stick to is mandatory 2 weeks quarantine for anyone coming in.

I do worry though, there have been slips-up with people escaping and what-not because morons are everywhere and all it takes is one to put all that good and hard work to waste. The government isnt coming down hard enough on these idiots who break the rules

11 minutes ago, paco said:

So a minor step down in quality

Well down there maybe.  
 

I remember out of college I got offers to teach down there under emergency certification because they were growing so rapidly and had a major shortage.  Problem was they were paying 25k less than schools up here.  But that was with a degree.  These student teachers wouldn’t even have a degree.  That’s bananas! 

 

 

37 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

 

Lol.  This is pretty widespread in our society already to be honest.  It’s the same as people reading Dinesh D’Souza instead of academics who actually know what they’re talking about.  The big difference here is that the stakes are a lot higher because doctors and medical experts losing the information war just means more people will die, which obviously really sucks.

The UK has implemented a 14-day quarantine for anyone coming from Spain, due to a large increase in cases in Spain.  Europe is beginning to see a large rise in cases in many countries.

Have we heard any updates from WTF? 

 

 

2 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

 

 

I saw that.  I'm guessing we are finally seeing the results thanks to the combination of "But muh freedomz" and "peaceful protesters"

3 hours ago, Smokesdawg said:

Have we heard any updates from WTF? 

I've been wondering as well. does anybody know him outside of EMB?

Hopefully he’s not on a ventilator.

This sucks.

11 hours ago, paco said:

So a minor step down in quality

Some might be an improvement actually. 

7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Hopefully he’s not on a ventilator.

This sucks.

That's my worry as well. I've been thinking about him a lot. 

23 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

being an island and not having nearly as much international travel (though certainly some) as say NYC certainly helps.

it has less than half the people by density as well.

both of these help. it's not really that comparable. 

As some said very early on every single place has its own unique set of parameters to consider when determining what strategy to use. 

30 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

As some said very early on every single place has its own unique set of parameters to consider when determining what strategy to use. 

Which strategy has the U.S. developed over the last four months?

5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Which strategy has the U.S. developed over the last four months?

Denial

5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Which strategy has the U.S. developed over the last four months?

Vikas beat me to it, but at least I have a gif