August 10, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, NOTW said: What level of spreaders are these: basic, mega or super? Significantly higher than people distancing and staying at home. Significantly lower than people gather indoors and/or wearing not wearing masks. Seems pretty simple.
August 10, 20205 yr On 8/4/2020 at 9:40 PM, The_Omega said: Too busy to look at your stuff this afternoon. Hopefully I’ll have some more time tomorrow Ok, it's been almost a week now. We were having a back and forth discussion, and then I posted data, and all a sudden you vanish from the thread and say you're too busy to look at it. All the while making plenty of posts in other threads. The only conclusion I can draw is that you aren't a serious poster interested in having anything that even closely resembles a serious discussion.
August 10, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: There’s numerous journalists who’ve been using the term. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.technologyreview.com/2020/06/15/1003576/whats-a-coronavirus-superspreader/amp/ Thank you. I'm not seeing in your link the fact that states most super-spreaders are Trump voters. It says it's biological and they don't know what causes it. "What is a superspreader? The word is a generic term for an unusually contagious individual who’s been infected with disease." "What makes someone a superspreader? We don’t yet know what it is about the biology of some people that causes them to be superspreaders." Quote As we learn more about how the coronavirus spreads between people, there’s more evidence to suggest that most infections are transmitted by a select few individuals we call "superspreaders.” Here’s what a superspreader is, the role these people play in transmitting the virus, and what we’re trying to do about it. What is a superspreader? The word is a generic term for an unusually contagious individual who’s been infected with disease. In the context of the coronavirus, scientists haven’t narrowed down how many infections someone needs to cause to qualify as a superspreader, but generally speaking it far exceeds the two to three individuals researchers initially estimated the average infected patient could infect. What’s the impact of superspreaders for covid-19? Researchers are beginning to come to a consensus after several new studies showing that coronavirus transmission more or less follows the 80/20 Pareto Principle (named after Italian economist Vilfredo Pareto): 80% of all consequences come from just 20% of the possible causes. For covid-19, this means 80% of new transmissions are caused by fewer than 20% of the carriers—the vast majority of people infect very few others or none at all, and it’s a select minority of individuals who are aggressively spreading the virus. A recent preprint looking at transmission in Hong Kong supports those figures, while another looking at transmission in Shenzhen, China, pegs the numbers closer to 80/10. Lots of outbreaks around the world have been linked to single events where a superspreader likely infected dozens of people. For example, a choir practice in Washington State infected about 52 people; a megachurch in Seoul was linked to the majority of initial infections in South Korea; and a wedding in Jordan with about 350 guests led to 76 confirmed infections. What makes someone a superspreader? We don’t yet know what it is about the biology of some people that causes them to be superspreaders. It might have something to do with increased viral loads and shedding more virus than is normal, but we still don’t know what would trigger this, let alone how to identify it through practical means. What do we do about superspreaders? Though we can’t medically diagnose superspreaders, we can still limit their impact. Contact tracing is still critical for identifying potential carriers and isolating them and anyone they have been in contact with—which keeps superspreaders from moving around and spreading the virus. Epidemiologists also point to mitigating the "three Cs” of transmission: closed spaces with poor ventilation, crowded settings, and close contact with others. That means encouraging outdoor seating when possible and maximizing ventilation in any indoor settings, limiting the number of people inside rooms and buildings, and continuing to keep individuals spaced apart by at least six feet.
August 10, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, NOTW said: What level of spreaders are these: basic, mega or super? super spreaders. Reckless super spreaders
August 10, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Significantly higher than people distancing and staying at home. Significantly lower than people gather indoors and/or wearing not wearing masks. Seems pretty simple. Then people in that significantly higher risk group of protesters (some without masks, majority not 6 feet apart) should be criticized and mocked the same way as people going to a Trump rally or a couple Karens that don't want to wear masks at Costco. Seems pretty simple.
August 10, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, NOTW said: Thank you. I'm not seeing in your link the fact that states most super-spreaders are Trump voters. It says it's biological and they don't know what causes it. "What is a superspreader? The word is a generic term for an unusually contagious individual who’s been infected with disease." "What makes someone a superspreader? We don’t yet know what it is about the biology of some people that causes them to be superspreaders." The anti-maskers (aka Trump supporters) are the super-spreaders.
August 10, 20205 yr any large gathering can be a super-spreader event. the ones where folks don't wear masks and the ones held indoors seem to be worse. but by all means post some more pics!
August 10, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, NOTW said: What level of spreaders are these: basic, mega or super? Basic. Dave's mom is the only real "super".
August 10, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, NOTW said: Then people in that significantly higher risk group of protesters (some without masks, majority not 6 feet apart) should be criticized and mocked the same way as people going to a Trump rally or a couple Karens that don't want to wear masks at Costco. Seems pretty simple. Eh they should be criticised sure, but at the same level as an indoor political rally without masks or a 10 day long massive bike party without masks? Disagree.
August 10, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, barho said: Where does the constitution talk about obeying traffic laws and carrying a photo ID? It was a joke man
August 10, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: any large gathering can be a super-spreader event. the ones where folks don't wear masks and the ones held indoors seem to be worse. but by all means post some more pics! Someone is butthurt that democrats are super-spreaders. lmao
August 10, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, NOTW said: Then people in that significantly higher risk group of protesters (some without masks, majority not 6 feet apart) should be criticized and mocked the same way as people going to a Trump rally or a couple Karens that don't want to wear masks at Costco. Seems pretty simple. No, Dave doesn't feel like that is the case so no, just no. Dave has felt and spoken. Super spreaders are no mask wearing Trumpsters with Orange pixie dust on their lips.
August 10, 20205 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: Eh they should be criticised sure, but at the same level as an indoor political rally without masks or a 10 day long massive bike party without masks? Disagree. Yeah, we can't criticize everyone equally, good point. lmao
August 10, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: No, Dave doesn't feel like that is the case so no, just no. Dave has felt and spoken. Super spreaders are no mask wearing Trumpsters with Orange pixie dust on their lips. Glad you’ve come to your senses, Zuker.
August 10, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Not surprisingly, Jim Jordan is getting dunked on pretty hard Yeah, America doesn't "need" sports. America wants sports. I want them too. However, not at the risk of lives.
August 10, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Yeah, America doesn't "need" sports. America wants sports. I want them too. However, not at the risk of lives. But it is OK to risk lives by opening schools to in-person learning?
August 10, 20205 yr Just now, Kz! said: But it is OK to risk lives by opening schools to in-person learning? I never said that.
August 10, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Eh they should be criticised sure, but at the same level as an indoor political rally without masks or a 10 day long massive bike party without masks? Disagree. Fine, not the same level. How about at all? People won't dare criticize racial justice protests. They'll laugh at Herman Cain or a Trump voter getting coronavirus though.
August 10, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Eh they should be criticised sure, but at the same level as an indoor political rally without masks or a 10 day long massive bike party without masks? Disagree. the events where they make fun of mask wearing & encourage folks to not wear them deserve more mockery, imo.
August 10, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, NOTW said: Fine, not the same level. How about at all? People won't dare criticize racial justice protests. They'll laugh at Herman Cain or a Trump voter getting coronavirus though. They're criticized on this board 24/7.
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