52 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I gave your mom my viral load last night! 

@probably 

If you've got virus in your load you've got bigger issues than banging 70 year olds Freddie Mercury

Thoughts on this study from China?

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Published in November in the scientific journal Nature Communications, the paper was compiled by 19 scientists, mainly from the Huazhong University of Science and Technology in Wuhan, but also from scientific institutions across China as well as in the U.K. and Australia. It focused on the residents of Wuhan, ground zero for COVID-19, where 9,899,828 people took part in a screening program between May 14 and June 1, which provided clear results as to the possibility of any asymptomatic transmission of the virus.

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It stated that out of the nearly 10 million people in the study, "300 asymptomatic cases” were found. Contact tracing was then carried out and of those 300, no cases of COVID-19 were detected in any of them. "A total of 1,174 close contacts of the asymptomatic positive cases were traced, and they all tested negative for the COVID-19.”

Both the asymptomatic patients and their contacts were placed in isolation for two weeks, and after the fortnight, the results remained the same. "None of detected positive cases or their close contacts became symptomatic or newly confirmed with COVID-19 during the isolation period.”

Further evidence showed that "virus cultures” in the positive and repositive asymptomatic cases were all negative, "indicating no ‘viable virus' in positive cases detected in this study.”

Wow. How is this not leading every news program in the country? Is there something wrong with the study?

2 hours ago, Gannan said:

Me and my kids are getting tested tomorrow. Scheduling a test is a pain. Because of the increased demand, getting an appointment is difficult. Our exposure was 10 days ago and no one has any symptoms, but we are being responsible and quarantining. A negative test means I can at least go make a beer run. 

contact free beer delivery service should be a thing. 

2 hours ago, Gannan said:

Me and my kids are getting tested tomorrow. Scheduling a test is a pain. Because of the increased demand, getting an appointment is difficult. Our exposure was 10 days ago and no one has any symptoms, but we are being responsible and quarantining. A negative test means I can at least go make a beer run. 

I had to get tested in order to be able to go back to work after traveling the week before Christmas.  I scheduled my test with CVS for Saturday morning after I returned, had my results Monday morning at 8am and back to work that day.

7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

contact free beer delivery service should be a thing. 

There are definitely beer stores that deliver - hell they had that 20 years where I went to college

5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I had to get tested in order to be able to go back to work after traveling the week before Christmas.  I scheduled my test with CVS for Saturday morning after I returned, had my results Monday morning at 8am and back to work that day.

There are definitely beer stores that deliver - hell they had that 20 years where I went to college

The issue is with the contact free, as in many places they have to verify the customer is at least 21.

4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I had to get tested in order to be able to go back to work after traveling the week before Christmas.  I scheduled my test with CVS for Saturday morning after I returned, had my results Monday morning at 8am and back to work that day.

There are definitely beer stores that deliver - hell they had that 20 years where I went to college

I think I might do the CVS testing. I thought they took longer than that. We have appointments for rapid testing at the urgent care but they want $75 a pop for that. Insurance covers CVS testing but I had heard it can take 2 weeks to get results back. 2 days is reasonable. Thanks!

12 minutes ago, Gannan said:

I think I might do the CVS testing. I thought they took longer than that. We have appointments for rapid testing at the urgent care but they want $75 a pop for that. Insurance covers CVS testing but I had heard it can take 2 weeks to get results back. 2 days is reasonable. Thanks!

Well mine cost $139 as I had no symptoms- but yeah it was a really easy and smooth process.  I was shocked at how quickly I got the results.  Again, though, rural area so not nearly as many people being tested.

6 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

my family cancelled our normal chistmas eve get together at my mom's house because of the rona.   but then my mother decided it was okay to go to my niece's house on christmas eve with 10-12 people there, including 5 of them jammed into the same car for the ride..    

between christmas & new year's eve, i expect rona to blow up in january. good times. 

My sister hosted Christmas Dinner like normal. Fewer people showed up because of the 'rona, but everyone was invited. We visited with them Christmasorning before the crowd got there, sat across the room from them, and we all wore masks the whole time. We spent the rest of the day with my mom, wearing masks, and keeping our distance. We were actually there for 2.5 days and wore masks any time we were in the same room. 

Found out yesterday that one of my cousins tested positive. He hosted Christmas Eve dinner with a handful of people at his house, including my aunt and his MIL both of whom are in their 70s. So far nobody else has symptoms that I know of. 

My BIL drove across the state to visit his family the weekend before Christmas. When he got there he found out his dad had a fever and was sick, but instead of turning around he stayed there all weekend anyway and got sick after he got home. He's positive and risked infecting his wife and son, and also went back to work before he had developed symptoms. 

 

People are morons. 

I reported a restaurant the other day, there must be over a hundred cars there everyday. While other restaurants are following the rules and struggling these a-holes are having a grand old time. I would of let it go but, then my mom who just got out of the hospital with emphysema and copd tells me my dad goes there a fee times a week because they don't make you wear masks and you can sit at the bar. 

My dad's thinking is he hasn't gotten the virus so no one else should. 

Can't even trust your own family to not be stupid. 

Here is your COVID relief package

2 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I reported a restaurant the other day, there must be over a hundred cars there everyday. While other restaurants are following the rules and struggling these a-holes are having a grand old time. I would of let it go but, then my mom who just got out of the hospital with emphysema and copd tells me my dad goes there a fee times a week because they don't make you wear masks and you can sit at the bar. 

My dad's thinking is he hasn't gotten the virus so no one else should. 

Can't even trust your own family to not be stupid. 

A true hero here - maybe if you write a letter to Commissar Wolf and Mr. Levine telling them what you did they’ll send you an autographed photo. 

12 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

A true hero here - maybe if you write a letter to Commissar Wolf and Mr. Levine telling them what you did they’ll send you an autographed photo. 

Had nothing to do with trying to be a hero. Thanks for the ignorant reply tho

12 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

It is going to be a longggggg home stretch but it does start now.

I hope you're right, but i'm not convinced that COVID won't be an ever present problem like the flu.

3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I reported a restaurant the other day, there must be over a hundred cars there everyday. While other restaurants are following the rules and struggling these a-holes are having a grand old time. I would of let it go but, then my mom who just got out of the hospital with emphysema and copd tells me my dad goes there a fee times a week because they don't make you wear masks and you can sit at the bar. 

My dad's thinking is he hasn't gotten the virus so no one else should. 

Can't even trust your own family to not be stupid. 

Dude you’re a scumbag. Literally narcing on people trying to make a living. Really says something about this forum that you would be comfortable enough to brag about it on here.

20 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Dude you’re a scumbag. Literally narcing on people trying to make a living. Really says something about this forum that you would be comfortable enough to brag about it on here.

Keeping your parents/grandparents alive > some rando trying to make a living

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Keeping your parents/grandparents alive > some rando trying to make a living

Yeah he’s def going to defeat coronavirus by putting a rando restaurant out of business. These are the big brain takes I’m here for.

3 minutes ago, Kz! said:

These are the big brain takes I’m here for.

Pretty sure you’re here for only one reason

 

3 hours ago, TEW said:

I hope you're right, but i'm not convinced that COVID won't be an ever present problem like the flu.

When we say "the flu" we're referring to influenza which is a set of viruses with recombinant surface proteins that allow them to rapidly mutate. When we say "the coronavirus" we're only referring specifically to one, very dangerous, very deadly, but thus far relatively slow to mutate virus. It is this recombinant nature of influenza strains that result in flu vaccines that may only have efficacy of 40% and a less durable immune response overall. Conversely, the first 2 sars-cov-2 vaccines from biontech and moderna have already shown efficacy of about 95% with improvements very likely to be made within the next few years.

3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Had nothing to do with trying to be a hero. Thanks for the ignorant reply tho

Ignore the idiots. If it was a restaurant with multiple health code violations for unsanitary conditions and people were getting sick from eating there, nobody would bat an eye at you reporting them for flouting health department orders. But now because their lord and savior downplayed the worst pandemic in a century, suddenly they have to take up the mantle and defend these like-minded "patriots" trying to kill their own customers. You didn't do anything wrong, anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

When we say "the flu" we're referring to influenza which is a set of viruses with recombinant surface proteins that allow them to rapidly mutate. When we say "the coronavirus" we're only referring specifically to one, very dangerous, very deadly, but thus far relatively slow to mutate virus. It is this recombinant nature of influenza strains that result in flu vaccines that may only have efficacy of 40% and a less durable immune response overall. Conversely, the first 2 sars-cov-2 vaccines from biontech and moderna have already shown efficacy of about 95% with improvements very likely to be made within the next few years.

Yeah, let's hope it stays that way, because I worry it won't.

4 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Ignore the idiots. If it was a restaurant with multiple health code violations for unsanitary conditions and people were getting sick from eating there, nobody would bat an eye at you reporting them for flouting health department orders. But now because their lord and savior downplayed the worst pandemic in a century, suddenly they have to take up the mantle and defend these like-minded "patriots" trying to kill their own customers. You didn't do anything wrong, anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

I really don't care what the restaurants do, I don't go to them so if people want to go then have at it. However, when it's my own damn dad ( thinks the virus is a joke) and the reason he is going is because this restaurant has literally not followed or is following a single protocol or guidline the entire year then I have a problem with it

All the other restaurants have been doing what they can to survive this while staying compliant with the pandemic rules in place. Some reason or another this restaurant is the only one that is being left go to do whatever they want while others suffer. A lot of restaurants have stayed open despite the orders of Wolfe which is fine in my book but, they are staying open while trying to keep everyone safe. These effers never closed once  the entire year and have not followed a single guidline..... Must be paying off the local cops or some sheet it's unreal. 

2 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I really don't care what the restaurants do, I don't go to them so if people want to go then have at it. However, when it's my own damn dad ( thinks the virus is a joke) and the reason he is going is because this restaurant has literally not followed or is following a single protocol or guidline the entire year then I have a problem with it

All the other restaurants have been doing what they can to survive this while staying compliant with the pandemic rules in place. Some reason or another this restaurant is the only one that is being left go to do whatever they want while others suffer. A lot of restaurants have stayed open despite the orders of Wolfe which is fine in my book but, they are staying open while trying to keep everyone safe. These effers never closed once  the entire year and have not followed a single guidline..... Must be paying off the local cops or some sheet it's unreal. 

So rather than talking to your dad about the dangers of coronavirus, you decided to get a business he frequents shut down by narcing to the government? Yikes.

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

So rather than talking to your dad about the dangers of coronavirus, you decided to get a business he frequents shut down by narcing to the government? Yikes.

Yeah you know why’d I have to call the cops on the chomo when I could just have a talk with my daughter about the dangers of chomos. 
 

great thinking. 

3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I really don't care what the restaurants do, I don't go to them so if people want to go then have at it. However, when it's my own damn dad ( thinks the virus is a joke) and the reason he is going is because this restaurant has literally not followed or is following a single protocol or guidline the entire year then I have a problem with it

All the other restaurants have been doing what they can to survive this while staying compliant with the pandemic rules in place. Some reason or another this restaurant is the only one that is being left go to do whatever they want while others suffer. A lot of restaurants have stayed open despite the orders of Wolfe which is fine in my book but, they are staying open while trying to keep everyone safe. These effers never closed once  the entire year and have not followed a single guidline..... Must be paying off the local cops or some sheet it's unreal. 

My parents traveled to California for thanksgiving, came back and had lunch inside with my 81 year old great uncle the day after they got back. Some people just are incapable of understanding. It's brutal when it's family but at this point I dunno what anyone can do. 

https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/lackawanna-county/gym-opens-during-shutdown-for-a-second-time/523-e74f2f3e-3df1-4fa3-b6a4-2588fa230c0e

 

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