5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Oh.....so you enjoy spreading misinformation?  Strange...

Posting a link to a legitimate study isn't spreading misinfo. But please continue whining about having to read a study about coronavirus in the coronavirus thread, ****.

22 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

You truly are a piece of crap that you are trashing someone for trying to protect their mom from dying. What kind of sick a-hole does that? 

🤷‍♂️Maybe just talk to your dad and not try to close a mans business down ,just saying?

8 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Posting a link to a legitimate study isn't spreading misinfo. But please continue whining about having to read a study about coronavirus in the coronavirus thread, ****.

posting a link to a study isn’t  spreading misinformation. 
However, this part, the part you wrote, is:

”How does this not get any run at all? The entire basis for virtually every restriction put in place, asymptomatic spread, might not even be a thing. No thoughts?”

Nothing in that study suggests that asymptomatic spread "might not even be a thing”.  THAT’S the misinformation.  

 

Glad to see Kz is making up for all those pages of faceplants being deleted by doubling his efforts now.  It's really appreciated.  

Just now, Phillyterp85 said:

posting a link to a study isn’t  spreading misinformation. 
However, this part, the part you wrote, is:

”How does this not get any run at all? The entire basis for virtually every restriction put in place, asymptomatic spread, might not even be a thing. No thoughts?”

Nothing in that study suggests that asymptomatic spread "might not even be a thing”.  THAT’S the misinformation.  

 

So in a study of 10 million only 300 were identified as asymptomatic and none of those asymptomatic carriers spread the virus to any of their 1,100 close contacts. That doesn't have any implications about asymptomatic cases and transmission? Yeah, IDK about that.

Just now, DEagle7 said:

Glad to see Kz is making up for all those pages of faceplants being deleted by doubling his efforts now.  It's really appreciated.  

Yeah total faceplant to post a study about asymptomatic transmission. lmao

2 minutes ago, Toty said:

Man... members of the house are pulling down 25 mil?

I'm in the wrong line of work

i'd suggest raising your rates but idk if the hobos who hang out in the railyard would be able to afford you at higher prices.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Toty said:

Man... members of the house are pulling down 25 mil?

I'm in the wrong line of work

They make like 175k a year.  Hard to beat those benefits though.

 

11 minutes ago, Kz! said:

So in a study of 10 million only 300 were identified as asymptomatic and none of those asymptomatic carriers spread the virus to any of their 1,100 close contacts. That doesn't have any implications about asymptomatic cases and transmission? Yeah, IDK about that.

If you understood the infection timeline, then no, it doesn’t have any implication.  
Again, a multitude of studies have already been done that were able to identify asymptomatic carriers DURING their infectious period and found that they transmitted the virus to others.

FFS it’s right there in the study that they were unable to culture live virus from any of the asymptomatic carriers.  

53 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

So I read the study.  It appears the problem herein lies with yours and Mr. Ziegler’s warped interpretation of it.  (Or maybe you guys didn’t read it?).

Because if you read the study, then you would have read this part:

”Virus cultures were negative for all asymptomatic positive and repositive cases, indicating no "viable virus” in positive cases detected in this study.”

In other words, like I just said in my last post, the asymptomatic people who tested positive were past their period of infectivity by the time their positive test showed up and were contact traced.

I read the entire thing too and there is also this part in there

"The main objective of the screening programme was to assess the risk of COVID-19 epidemic in residents who were actually living in the post-lockdown Wuhan."

So it was a study of Wuhan AFTER the lockdown and they basically are looking at the effects of the area after the virus has passed through. That is why there are only 300 asymptomatic people out of 10 million.

Also here is their press release

https://www.uea.ac.uk/news/-/article/wuhan-mass-screening-identifies-hundreds-of-asymptomatic-cases

But the research team warn that their findings do not show that the virus can’t be passed on by asymptomatic carriers.

 

13 hours ago, Kz! said:

Dude you’re a scumbag. Literally narcing on people trying to make a living. Really says something about this forum that you would be comfortable enough to brag about it on here.

 

12 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Keeping your parents/grandparents alive > some rando trying to make a living

 

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

So now we can pick which laws we want to follow and which ones we should ignore? Interesting take.

I agree with two of these posts.  Not very had to tell which two.

Just now, downundermike said:

 

 

I agree with two of these posts.  Not very had to tell which two.

Yes, libs now think it's appropriate to try to get someone's business shut down if they aren't following coronavirus protocols to their liking. This isn't breaking news.

33 minutes ago, Brianfive said:

🤷‍♂️Maybe just talk to your dad and not try to close a mans business down ,just saying?

Is the man's business open in violation of the current governors shut down ??

26 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Glad to see Kz is making up for all those pages of faceplants being deleted by doubling his efforts now.  It's really appreciated.  

Such a shame.  he was about to tell us about "every democrat he knows" that agrees the election was stolen.

3 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yes, libs now think it's appropriate to try to get someone's business shut down if they aren't following coronavirus protocols to their liking. This isn't breaking news.

They are in violation of the governor's order.  Agree with the order or not, it needs to be followed, end of story.  Funny you being on the other side when you have been all about the law and order president the last 4 years.

35 minutes ago, Brianfive said:

🤷‍♂️Maybe just talk to your dad and not try to close a mans business down ,just saying?

No, it's way more logical to narc on some random person's business and try to get it shut down than it is to actually talk to your family member that's being irresponsible. Said family member with poor coronavirus habits will immediately be safe from the virus when that business gets shut down. It's not like they won't continue to act irresponsibly elsewhere. #liblogic

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They are in violation of the governor's order.  Agree with the order or not, it needs to be followed, end of story.  Funny you being on the other side when you have been all about the law and order president the last 4 years.

Yes, everyone knows blind obedience to government is always the correct course of action. lmfao

7 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Such a shame.  he was about to tell us about "every democrat he knows" that agrees the election was stolen.

Man, that got you really butthurt didn't it?

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

No, it's way more logical to narc on some random person's business and try to get it shut down than it is to actually talk to your family member that's being irresponsible. Said family member with poor coronavirus habits will immediately be safe from the virus when that business gets shut down. It's not like they won't continue to act irresponsibly elsewhere. #liblogic

How about the business owner does what they are F'in told.  You guys are like spoiled toddlers.  The quicker people get in line and do what is required for the common good, the sooner we can get past this.  LAW AND ORDER M'Fer.

Where was all this "only trying to make a living" jazz for weed dealers?

Just now, Toty said:

But how can this be true when kz's source interprets the article in a completely different way?

If you can't trust kz's twitter stream, who can you trust?

Things more trustworthy than Kz's twitter sources:

- a fart after a week of eating only prunes and espresso

- jim jones buying refreshments for your party

- schuylkill river sourced sushi

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yes, everyone knows blind obedience to government is always the correct course of action. lmfao

It is not blind obedience if you have common sense and basic human decency.  People have to follow rules every day, at work, driving a car etc, etc.  JUST DO WHAT YOU ARE F'n TOLD.

5 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Man, that got you really butthurt didn't it?

I don't know how I will ever get over discovering the truth.

So, I won't engage in the troll fueled stupidity, but here is one thought on how to balance the lockdown vs. personal freedom. The issue is that morons congregating together endangers me and my family in two ways. First, some of these idiots will be my Door Dash/Instacart delivery person, so I will be exposed to them no matter what; this can be largely mitigated by wearing a mask, distancing, etc. The second way is much more difficult -- idiots will get sick, take up hospital capacity and leave no ICU bed for me if I get sick despite not being a moron. My solution to that is simple -- if you want to break the rules, then you don't get an ICU bed. You get it, you get no medical help. No idea how we could actually enforce this, and there is no way the bleeding hearts would do this, but this is the market solution to the problem -- let morons feel the consequences of their poor decisions. 

I wholeheartedly support the idea that if you choose not to get the vaccine once it is available to you, your insurance company should be allowed to deny you coverage. 

36 minutes ago, downundermike said:

How about the business owner does what they are F'in told.  You guys are like spoiled toddlers.  The quicker people get in line and do what is required for the common good, the sooner we can get past this.  LAW AND ORDER M'Fer.

Yeah, and if they are told to shut down and their business goes under and they lose the ability to provide for their family tough ish, right? We must all obey government without hesitation. It's for the greater good!

they should learn to code. 

11 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

So, I won't engage in the troll fueled stupidity, but here is one thought on how to balance the lockdown vs. personal freedom. The issue is that morons congregating together endangers me and my family in two ways. First, some of these idiots will be my Door Dash/Instacart delivery person, so I will be exposed to them no matter what; this can be largely mitigated by wearing a mask, distancing, etc. The second way is much more difficult -- idiots will get sick, take up hospital capacity and leave no ICU bed for me if I get sick despite not being a moron. My solution to that is simple -- if you want to break the rules, then you don't get an ICU bed. You get it, you get no medical help. No idea how we could actually enforce this, and there is no way the bleeding hearts would do this, but this is the market solution to the problem -- let morons feel the consequences of their poor decisions. 

I wholeheartedly support the idea that if you choose not to get the vaccine once it is available to you, your insurance company should be allowed to deny you coverage. 

Yeah, dude, it's such a troll position that adults should be able to decide for themselves if they want to frequent a business, and the government shouldn't be allowed to run people out of business because of the existence of a virus with a 99.9% survivability rate. These are extremely radical positions to have in America in 2020.