March 2, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, DiPros said: Well the media is telling us how many millions of doses are being shipped everyday. While I don't doubt your statement is true, then it only compounds that the distribution is totally f'd. I still need to know how Montour county was already alloted more than their total population. Something is really really wrong here. Yeah I think distribution is also a problem for sure but the production has been problematic. btw - The EU and Sweden are FAR FAR behind. My 86yr old mother-in-law still hasn't even had a chance to try to schedule a time.
March 2, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yeah I think distribution is also a problem for sure but the production has been problematic. btw - The EU and Sweden are FAR FAR behind. My 86yr old mother-in-law still hasn't even had a chance to try to schedule a time. Yes I meant to say both Mfg and distribution. I heard Canada is a hot mess as well.
March 2, 20214 yr 47 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: The med companies have all missed in their estimations of how much they could produce. The supply chains for all of the stuff needed to make the materials seems to be the main culprit. I read that each of the solutions requires 100+ individual ingredients. I remember saying in here somewhere that my friend who works for Pfizer said the manufacturing and distribution would be a major problem.
March 2, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yeah I think distribution is also a problem for sure but the production has been problematic. btw - The EU and Sweden are FAR FAR behind. My 86yr old mother-in-law still hasn't even had a chance to try to schedule a time. The US seems like they're doing relatively well with vaccine roll out. It's very state and even county dependant though. Places like Georgia Texas and DC have been doing pretty poorly overall. PA is pretty middle of the road when it comes to percent vaccinated but best I can tell from reports/anecdotes it varies dramatically county to county. I know pretty healthy non-essential 35 year olds vaccinated easily in downtown Philadelphia through Penn and 60+ year olds with multiple comorbidities struggling to find vaccines in more rural areas.
March 2, 20214 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: The US seems like they're doing relatively well with vaccine roll out. It's very state and even county dependant though. Places like Georgia Texas and DC have been doing pretty poorly overall. PA is pretty middle of the road when it comes to percent vaccinated but best I can tell from reports/anecdotes it varies dramatically county to county. I know pretty healthy non-essential 35 year olds vaccinated easily in downtown Philadelphia through Penn and 60+ year olds with multiple comorbidities struggling to find vaccines in more rural areas. Far as I can tell the US is way ahead of Europe in any case.
March 2, 20214 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: The US seems like they're doing relatively well with vaccine roll out. It's very state and even county dependant though. Places like Georgia Texas and DC have been doing pretty poorly overall. PA is pretty middle of the road when it comes to percent vaccinated but best I can tell from reports/anecdotes it varies dramatically county to county. I know pretty healthy non-essential 35 year olds vaccinated easily in downtown Philadelphia through Penn and 60+ year olds with multiple comorbidities struggling to find vaccines in more rural areas. GA's been awful. I'm looking into going to Alabama to get it. When your citizens are looking to Alabama as a virtue of competence, you know you're doing something wrong.
March 2, 20214 yr 49 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: So, my mom texted me yesterday that she was able to get an appt. because her friend told her that a new slate just opened up at 9 AM and she got set up for Thurs. I sent the word to my GF who's also in 1A, and she gets her first shot Fri. I'm patiently waiting my turn for 1B. I just hope I can get it done before our trip to Hawaii in early June. Being in 1B, I'd be shocked if you don't get it by May 1st.
March 2, 20214 yr 40 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: The US seems like they're doing relatively well with vaccine roll out. It's very state and even county dependant though. Places like Georgia Texas and DC have been doing pretty poorly overall. PA is pretty middle of the road when it comes to percent vaccinated but best I can tell from reports/anecdotes it varies dramatically county to county. I know pretty healthy non-essential 35 year olds vaccinated easily in downtown Philadelphia through Penn and 60+ year olds with multiple comorbidities struggling to find vaccines in more rural areas. The City is ordering doing their own thing, not relying on the State. As are providers, like Penn, who I'm willing to bet got their supply thru the city, and in turn they are only giving patients in the city proper vaccines. Nothing yet out here in the surrounding counties.
March 2, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, DiPros said: The City is ordering doing their own thing, not relying on the State. As are providers, like Penn, who I'm willing to bet got their supply thru the city, and in turn they are only giving patients in the city proper vaccines. Nothing yet out here in the surrounding counties. I think you're right. In the case of the 30+ year olds who got it, it was through Penn and they both had (very mild) preexisting conditions. So I'm hoping what happened is they had extra vaccines that otherwise would expire and just looked up patients in their system that had asthma etc and offered it to em. Still as you said, very discordant with what's going on in the burbs. It's interesting to see that the opposite is true in other places though. DC has one of the absolute worst vaccine rates in the country while places like Alaska and South Dakota have great rates so far. So clearly not just an urban vs rural thing. 🤷♂️
March 2, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: yee haw! way to go, texas! what could possibly go wrong? Really though, California had the strictest lock downs and was one of the worst states
March 2, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Really though, California had the strictest lock downs and was one of the worst states CA did well at the outset when they initiated the lockdowns early. The trouble started when Newsom caved and started lifting restrictions too soon in the spring, leading to a spike. In reaction Newsom overreacted and shut down everything again while being a hypocrite -- so plenty of local governments basically told him to screw off. Pretty much nothing he does makes sense anymore, like closing outdoor dining but allowing filming to keep happening. It's a debacle and people are sick of it and rebelled -- there were house parties galore over the holidays.
March 2, 20214 yr 54 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Smart move. It's time we stop living in terror and crippling the economy because of a virus that kills only the very old, the very ill or the van-sized people.
March 2, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: Smart move. It's time we stop living in terror and crippling the economy because of a virus that kills only the very old, the very ill or the van-sized people. The problem is it causes too many hospitalizations which increases the deaths because hospitals can't handle it , you realize there other conditions have not gone away either ?
March 2, 20214 yr I'm not opposed to removing other restrictions if the case rate, testing, and capacity data is favorable, but it's supremely stupid to repeal mask mandates right now. At best, he should've waited until June. I'm just glad I don't live there.
March 2, 20214 yr Based on recent events in Texas, I am sure we can trust the governor to make the right move here: no more mask mandate, to reopen 100%... Right?
March 2, 20214 yr 58 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I'm not opposed to removing other restrictions if the case rate, testing, and capacity data is favorable, but it's supremely stupid to repeal mask mandates right now. At best, he should've waited until June. I'm just glad I don't live there. Yeah we are seeing restrictions lifted here anyway - fans allowed at games not too, but masks still needed. It’s trending in the right direction I think. But to pull the all the stops is 100% the wrong move. I’m hopeful by end of May we’ll back to 75-80% of "normalcy” and by July 1st masks won’t be mandated just encouraged.
March 3, 20214 yr This came yesterday, and the tone of it I thought was good. Don't tell people to be patient, let them know you're committed to working and solving the problem. It could be worse, we could live in Brazil. I know many of you are distressed and disheartened by the availability of COVID-19 vaccine. I realize you may even feel as though Penn Medicine has let you down. Penn Medicine’s mission has always been to take care of people, especially when they are at their most vulnerable. It is at the center of everything we do and everything we are. We have the plan in place, the staff, and the lists of patients who are currently eligible to receive the vaccine in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. All we need is the supply. The truth is, our ability to take care of you is at the mercy of the vaccine manufacturing and supply chain processes that we have no control over. The Situation Most of our patients live outside of Philadelphia; they travel into the city for care or get care at one of our sites close to home. Because the rules for administering vaccines vary depending on where people live, it has created a lot of confusion and made it hard to provide vaccine to patients who live in counties surrounding Philadelphia. At our Philadelphia hospitals – where we are normally able to treat all patients, regardless of their zip codes – we must follow city of Philadelphia guidance, which allows us to provide COVID-19 vaccine only to those who live in Philadelphia. For our patients in New Jersey and the Pennsylvania suburbs, the vaccine process is regulated by the states, and that supply is very small right now. New Jersey’s focus on using six mega-sites around the state limits our vaccine capacity there. Pennsylvania’s focus on distributing through hospitals and pharmacies to-date has limited our ability to vaccinate in some counties. What We’re Doing About It We want to protect you against this horrible virus. We want to give you the ability to see your children and grandchildren. And we are going to continue doing everything in our power to make it happen. Every day, we are calling government officials to ask for more supply and more places to administer it. In addition to providing vaccine at our Philadelphia hospitals and regional hospitals (Chester County Hospital, Lancaster General Health, and Princeton Health), we have submitted applications to open vaccination sites in Radnor, Valley Forge, and Cherry Hill. We are also committed to vaccine equity by increasing vaccination rates among people of color by educating and meeting them where they are. We have been collaborating with community leaders in Philadelphia and started setting up vaccination clinics at local churches and community centers to try to close the gap. Our Promise Our staff continue to amaze us. Despite the long working hours and all they have endured this past year, they are still giving their all. Sign-ups for volunteer events, such as weekend vaccine clinic shifts, fill up in minutes. As soon as we get supply and open more vaccine sites, you are in the best possible hands with our team. While we have provided twice as many doses of vaccine as the next highest vaccinator in Philadelphia, we are not satisfied. We expect that in the next few weeks, supply will ramp up, and when it does, we have a strong process in place to expedite vaccinations for even more patients throughout our region. No matter what, we are here for you. We will continue pushing for more vaccine until we are able to provide shots to every single patient who wants them. As always, thank you for putting your trust in Penn Medicine. Sincerely, Kevin B. Mahoney Chief Executive Officer Penn Medicine
March 3, 20214 yr One thing to keep in mind is that not all locations or vaccine sites will be drawn down equally. There will likely be pockets still serving previous phases while others move on to new phases. The idea is to maximize throughput and not have any doses sitting idle. In any case, if you or someone you know is not opposed to driving 45-60 min to a rite aid / walgreens, then checking this site at midnight and 6am can be helpful. http://www.vaxxmax.com/
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