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33 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Careful or he might push you over the edge

You really need to get over the FE thing, it's old news.

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13 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

You really need to get over the FE thing, it's old news.

Never been a thing as far as I’m concerned. Not for hundreds of years. 

11 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

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Posted by a friend who lost his mom to COVID.  She had been in a nursing home for four months.   COVID took her life at the beginning of the pandemic.  Her birthday in 2019 here... what do you think killed her?   Probably that mean ol' flu.  Certainly not her diabetes, or heart failure, or obesity.... no, it's calculated as a COVID death.  

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So by this logic, if she had been shot, and goes into cardiac arrest on the operating table while the doctors are trying to remove the bullet, it wasn’t the gunman that killed her and he shouldn’t be charged with murder.  Because hey, if she would have been in better shape, she would have survived.

39 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

So by this logic, if she had been shot, and goes into cardiac arrest on the operating table while the doctors are trying to remove the bullet, it wasn’t the gunman that killed her and he shouldn’t be charged with murder.  Because hey, if she would have been in better shape, she would have survived.

Correct.

 

Or, maybe, you shouldn't be petrified of this or forced to get a vaccine if you are an otherwise generally healthy person (ie. Under 50 and not obese, cancer survivor, lung disease, etc.). Its called giving context to the death. Instead, you just get a number and a message to WeAr TwO mAsKs NoW!!!

Go ahead. Answer the question. What do you tell the recipients of the AstraZeneca shot?????  "Oooops, its experimental after all..." ?????

Go ahead, answer the question. If your vaccination works sooooo well, then why does it matter if others do not vaccinate with an experimental drug for 4-6 years????

You don't change workplace rules on interaction and socialization because Karen in accounting is battling leukemia. She can't afford to get sick, but you don't ban the whole company from hanging out by the coffee machine.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Never been a thing as far as I’m concerned. Not for hundreds of years. 

Then why in the hell do you and other clowns keep bringing it up?

2 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Then why in the hell do you and other clowns keep bringing it up?

It is comical.

16 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Then why in the hell do you and other clowns keep bringing it up?

We like to poke fun at you. 

3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Careful or he might push you over the edge

yeah...they don't just believe 1 wacky conspiracy theory...they believe them all. :wacko:   

Once you believe in one you’re susceptible to them all.  Look how Trump hooked millions of people with the birther stuff.

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A new coronavirus variant is raising concerns in France as regular PCR-tests are unable to detect the mutation, health officials stated during a press conference on Tuesday.

On Monday, the French health authorities announced that a new coronavirus variant was detected in a hospital in the commune of Lannion in the Côtes d’Armor in France’s Brittany department, adding that PCR tests failed to detect the virus.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/health/160220/new-coronavirus-variant-found-in-france-is-undetectable-by-pcr-tests-steven-van-gucht-bretagne-brittany-belgium-labs/

Undetectable super-strain incoming?

11 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

That maybe its not F-ing idiotic to deny vaccination if you're not in a high-risk situation??

you are a walking-talking example of Dunning-Kruger. 

Got my first dose of the experimental Moderna vaccine an hour ago.

I guess my arm is a tiny bit sore but otherwise feel fine. I cannot be more excited to get back to normal life as quick as possible.

2 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

Correct.

 

Or, maybe, you shouldn't be petrified of this or forced to get a vaccine if you are an otherwise generally healthy person (ie. Under 50 and not obese, cancer survivor, lung disease, etc.). Its called giving context to the death. Instead, you just get a number and a message to WeAr TwO mAsKs NoW!!!

Go ahead. Answer the question. What do you tell the recipients of the AstraZeneca shot?????  "Oooops, its experimental after all..." ?????

Go ahead, answer the question. If your vaccination works sooooo well, then why does it matter if others do not vaccinate with an experimental drug for 4-6 years????

You don't change workplace rules on interaction and socialization because Karen in accounting is battling leukemia. She can't afford to get sick, but you don't ban the whole company from hanging out by the coffee machine.

No, that is categorically NOT correct.  
Where have I said I’m "petrified” of this or that people should be forced to be vaccinated?  What on earth are you talking about?  Ffs........

why does it matter if others do not get vaccinated?  Do you understand the concept of herd immunity?  Apparently not....

 

3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

No, that is categorically NOT correct.  
Where have I said I’m "petrified” of this or that people should be forced to be vaccinated?  What on earth are you talking about?  Ffs........

why does it matter if others do not get vaccinated?  Do you understand the concept of herd immunity?  Apparently not....

 

The proper way to discuss things here is to make up what the other person said so it fits with your argument.

17 hours ago, binkybink77 said:

It’s cheap to fly right now. I mean we could afford first but we are trying to be responsible with spending. Trying to allocate resources towards something a little more important than a cushy seat for an hour flight at the moment. In fact the reason for the flight :angel

Prices are already creeping back for the summer. I was looking into flights for a family of 4 in August. Ay caramba!

28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

you are a walking-talking example of Dunning-Kruger. 

And you're a walking example of failing to answer the question.

10 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

No, that is categorically NOT correct.  
Where have I said I’m "petrified” of this or that people should be forced to be vaccinated?  What on earth are you talking about?  Ffs........

why does it matter if others do not get vaccinated?  Do you understand the concept of herd immunity?  Apparently not....

 

"Correct" was clearly facetious.

Read the thread. You think I and others are idiots for not getting vaccinated.

I'll ask again: what do you tell those that got the AstraZeneca shot and are now having strokes and dying due to clotting?

6 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

The proper way to discuss things here is to make up what the other person said so it fits with your argument.

Right, like where I "bragged" about my degree or told you to skip masks indoors.

You all are a bunch of hypocrites. 

 

Answer the question.

What do you tell people who got the AstraZeneca shot? "Oops, sorry - its experimental!"???

5 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

And you're a walking example of failing to answer the question.

"Correct" was clearly facetious.

Read the thread. You think I and others are idiots for not getting vaccinated.

I'll ask again: what do you tell those that got the AstraZeneca shot and are now having strokes and dying due to clotting?

Right, like where I "bragged" about my degree or told you to skip masks indoors.

You all are a bunch of hypocrites. 

 

Answer the question.

What do you tell people who got the AstraZeneca shot? "Oops, sorry - its experimental!"???

I think you ask them how they got the AZ vaccine since the FDA hasn't approved them for use here in the US yet.

38 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

 

What do you tell people who got the AstraZeneca shot? "Oops, sorry - its experimental!"???

That it hasn't been approved by the FDA yet for a reason.

21 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

And you're a walking example of failing to answer the question.

"Correct" was clearly facetious.

Read the thread. You think I and others are idiots for not getting vaccinated.

I'll ask again: what do you tell those that got the AstraZeneca shot and are now having strokes and dying due to clotting?

Right, like where I "bragged" about my degree or told you to skip masks indoors.

You all are a bunch of hypocrites. 

 

Answer the question.

What do you tell people who got the AstraZeneca shot? "Oops, sorry - its experimental!"???

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Domestically, the AstraZeneca vaccine is still undergoing phase-three clinical trials and has therefore not been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, but the New York Times reported Friday that the federal government has purchased roughly 30 million doses that are being packaged in an Ohio facility.

You tell them the truth.

Whoever gave you that dose is a scammer, since the vaccine is still under trial.

37 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

I think you ask them how they got the AZ vaccine since the FDA hasn't approved them for use here in the US yet.

Cop out.

35 minutes ago, Gannan said:

That it hasn't been approved by the ADA yet for a reason.

You need the ADA.

Just now, IFB DOG said:

Cop out.

 

Ok then I guess I say sorry that you live in Europe and they approved it?

8 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

Ok then I guess I say sorry that you live in Europe and they approved it?

Great. So now do you understand why people might be alarmed to take an experimental drug?  One that hasn't seen P-IV studies? 

1 minute ago, IFB DOG said:

Great. So now do you understand why people might be alarmed to take an experimental drug?  One that hasn't seen P-IV studies? 

Yeah I agree I definitely wouldn't take any vaccine that hasn't been approved for any use at all by the FDA.

6 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

Yeah I agree I definitely wouldn't take any vaccine that hasn't been approved for any use at all by the FDA.

So when your regulatory agency DOES approve something, and you take it, and then crap goes wrong, then what? 

Put yourself in the shoes of a European right now.

Like I said, cop out. 

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