April 10, 20214 yr Why Mississippi Has Few Takers for 73,000 Covid Shots The good news: There are more shots available. The challenge is getting people to take them. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/09/health/vaccine-mississippi-demand.html I lived in Mississippi for a year that lasted 8 or 9. Armpit of the south. First bar I walked into, USAF in jeans and a t-shirt, I was greeted with, "What are you doin' in here, boy?" I left. Left the state as soon as possible.
April 10, 20214 yr I wish you people would get your damn shots already so we can move on from this farce. Time's a wastin. 😏
April 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: Why Mississippi Has Few Takers for 73,000 Covid Shots The good news: There are more shots available. The challenge is getting people to take them. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/09/health/vaccine-mississippi-demand.html I lived in Mississippi for a year that lasted 8 or 9. Armpit of the south. First bar I walked into, USAF in jeans and a t-shirt, I was greeted with, "What are you doin' in here, boy?" I left. Left the state as soon as possible. There are more shots than people? They’re stealing the pandemic! This has to be the most fraudulent pandemic in the history of pandemics!
April 10, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, lynched1 said: I wish you people would get your damn shots already so we can move on from this farce. Time's a wastin. 😏 We wish you idiots would wear masks and act like responsible adults, so I guess none of gets what we want.
April 10, 20214 yr Three Women Given Anti-Rabies Shot Instead of Covid Vaccine https://www.gulte.com/political-news/78577/up-three-women-given-anti-rabies-shot-instead-of-covid-vaccine Shamli, India. That's messed up.
April 10, 20214 yr Bananas. Barrett sure got dem crazy eyes... Quote Supreme Court strikes another pandemic-related restriction on religious services Justice Amy Coney Barrett played a decisive role in the Supreme Court’s late-night ruling Friday. (Reuters) By Robert Barnes April 10, 2021 at 8:55 a.m. EDT In another late-night ruling, the Supreme Court on Friday blocked another California coronavirus restriction on religious gatherings, saying the state’s limits on home-based Bible study and prayer sessions violated constitutional rights. The 5-to-4 order on an emergency petition illustrates how a new majority on the court — with Justice Amy Coney Barrett playing a decisive role — is now in control when the court considers if pandemic-related restrictions cross the line to endanger religious rights. Constitutional protections are implicated any time a state treats "any comparable secular activity more favorably than religious exercise,” the majority wrote. "It is no answer that a state treats some comparable secular businesses or other activities as poorly as or even less favorably than the religious exercise at issue.” In this case, the majority said, gatherings of more than three households were banned at prayer meetings in homes even though California permits "hair salons, retail stores, personal care services, movie theaters, private suites at sporting events and concerts, and indoor restaurants to bring together more than three households at a time.” The opinion was unsigned, but the majority was composed of Barrett and Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr., Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. indicated the court should not have granted the emergency petition challenging the restrictions but did not explain his reasoning. Justice Elena Kagan wrote a biting dissent for the court’s liberals. The First Amendment requires a state to treat religious conduct as well as it treats comparable secular conduct, Kagan wrote. California "does exactly that,” she wrote, adding that it adopted a blanket restriction on home gatherings to three households, "religious and secular alike.” "California need not, as the [majority] insists, treat at-home religious gatherings the same as hardware stores and hair salons — and thus unlike at-home secular gatherings, the obvious comparator here,” Kagan wrote. "The law does not require that the state equally treat apples and watermelons,” she wrote, joined by Justices Stephen G. Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor. The challenge was brought by Santa Clara County pastors Jeremy Wong and Karen Busch, who said the restrictions prevented their usual weekly Bible study and prayer sessions. The pair "sincerely believe assembling for small-group, ‘house church’ fellowship is just as indispensable to their faith as attending Mass is for a Catholic,” they said in their petition to the court. The issue of when state restrictions put in place to curb the pandemic unfairly limit religious activity has sharply divided the court. Before the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Roberts and liberal justices formed a majority that generally left the issue up to elected officials, saying judges don’t have the expertise or power to overrule decisions made with the public’s health in mind. But the court’s more conservative members protested, saying that was an abdication of the court’s responsibility. "In certain quarters, religious liberty is fast becoming a disfavored right,” Alito said in a speech to the Federalist Society. Alito bemoans Supreme Court’s direction in stern speech to conservatives After the death of the liberal Ginsburg and the confirmation of the conservative Barrett to her seat on the court, the dynamic shifted. The new majority struck limitations on religious services in New York put in place by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D), and has continued that pattern since. Friday’s majority opinion, issued just before midnight, expressed impatience both with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, which upheld the household limitation, and with California officials, led by Gov. Gavin Newsom (D). "This is the fifth time the court has summarily rejected the Ninth Circuit’s analysis of California’s covid restrictions on religious exercise,” the majority opinion stated. The 9th Circuit is often held up as a liberal outlier, although the judges who ruled for California in this case were nominated by Presidents George W. Bush and Donald Trump. And the majority rejected California’s plea to stay out of the case because the restrictions were constantly changing, based on infection rates, and they are scheduled to expire. "Although California officials changed the challenged policy shortly after this application was filed, the previous restrictions remain in place until April 15th, and officials with a track record of moving the goal posts retain authority to reinstate those heightened restrictions at any time,” the opinion said. The challengers "are irreparably harmed by the loss of free exercise rights ‘for even minimal periods of time’; and the state has not shown that ‘public health would be imperiled’ by employing less restrictive measures,” the opinion said, citing the precedents it said were set in the New York case. The California case is Tandon v. Newsom.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-california-coronavirus-church/2021/04/10/182faec2-99e8-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html Repug logic: "Three families gathering in a single home presents the same level of viral risk as three families gathering in a concert hall" 🤡🌎
April 10, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, lynched1 said: I wish you people would get your damn shots already so we can move on from this farce. Time's a wastin. 😏 Did you just buy a bunch of stock in 5G?
April 10, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Toastrel said: We wish you idiots would wear masks and act like responsible adults, so I guess none of gets what we want. I'm far more responsible than you'll ever hope to be in this life. Quit yer crying nancy.
April 10, 20214 yr 50 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I'm far more responsible than you'll ever hope to be in this life. Quit yer crying nancy. 19 hours ago, lynched1 said: I wish you people would get your damn shots already so we can move on from this farce. 🤔
April 11, 20214 yr 4/4/21 Update https://www.nothingbutthetruthmd.com/2021/04/4421-covid-19-update.html Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the new head of the CDC has misspoken yet again. This week she suggested that people who are fully vaccinated against the coronavirus never become infected or transmit the virus to others. We do know that people fully vaccinated can and do develop mild cases of Covid-19 and research to date is insufficient to answer the question of disease transmission in fully vaccinated individuals. Dr. Walensky is obviously struggling to get off the steep learning curve as new head of the CDC. VACCINE SAFETY I know that there are those who will read this and not be reassured by the message. They may feel the numbers I site are false, they might believe in some conspiracy masterminded by the government or extraterrestrial forces. For those not inclined to such thoughts, but not certain about vaccination, I hope this offers useful information. Given that no vaccine is totally without risk, the decision to use or receive a vaccination reflects a cost-benefit calculation of costs and risks associated with vaccination against costs and risks associated with the natural disease. The later is a function of the severity and frequency of the target disease in the population. Vaccines are unusual among medical interventions in that they are generally given to well, healthy individuals. Measles vaccines (considered one of the world's safer vaccines) became available in the early 1960's and recently in the United States, about 10 million doses per year are administered. The dominant reactions are associated with a mild measles like syndrome which occurs in between 2 - 30% of recipients approximately a week after vaccination. Febrile convulsions may occur in one per 1000 vaccinations and recovery is generally without sequala. A variety of more severe "adverse events" have been reported as "possibly" associated with measles vaccination. Convulsions, encephalitis and subacute sclerosing panencephalilitis, Guillain Barre or Ryes syndrome are mentioned. The largest trial looking at convulsions was carried out in Britain in the 1960's. In that trial there were 18 confirmed seizure reactions within three weeks of measles vaccination in 9577 recipients. (0.18%) In the control group of 16,237 non-vaccinated individuals there were 5 convulsive episodes. (0.03%) If you subtract three from the total of 18 in the vaccinated group (the number of patients out of 9577 who would have seized without vaccination) the incidence of seizure reaction is reduced to 0.15%. The CDC monitoring system for the years 1963 - 1971 and 1979 - 1984 reported 64 cases of encephalitis out of 69 million vaccinations, slightly less than 1 case per million vaccines. The incidence of these severe adverse events is at least 10 fold higher in natural measles disease. Measles vaccine penetration in the US is estimated at about 90%, and in 2018 between 400 and 500 people died of measles (over whelming majority were not vaccinated). I can find no statistics on deaths related to measles vaccine. In the United States, we have now administered over 158 million doses of Covid vaccine since December 2020. That is equivalent to almost 16 years of measles vaccinations Minor side effects and local injections site reactions are similar to those of measles. Anaphylactic reactions occur at about 1 per 1.5 million vaccinations. There have been no causally related severe neurologic adverse events and I find no statistics on deaths associated with the 158 million vaccinations. There have been no deaths related to Covid disease in fully vaccinated individuals and serious disease after full vaccination, if it exists, is very rare. Since December 2019 there have been over 550,000 deaths in non-vaccinated individuals and millions of seriously ill, non-vaccinated Covid patients requiring hospitalization. I hope that I have presented enough information for comparison and risk benefit ratio stratification to make an informed, logical decision as to whether vaccination is for you or your loved ones. mRNA VACCINATION BOOSTS CROSS-VARIANT NEUTRALIZING ANTIBODIES ELICITED BY SARS-CoV-2 INFECTION Science March 25, 2021 Leonidas Stamatatos, et al. SARS-CoV-2 infection is mediated by the viral spike protein (S) which is comprised of an S1 region that contains three separate domains which mediate attachment to the host (that is us) ACE2 receptor and another domain that contains the fusion machinery. Pre-existing immunity to SARS-CoV-2 (by native infection) is associated with protection against re-infection. Neutralizing antibodies triggered by an immune response to the viral antigen are thought to be responsible for this protection. The majority of neutralizing antibody responses elicited by natural infection are directed at the receptor binding domain (one of the three domains previously mentioned) Due to the high global burden of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, viral evolution (variant) is occurring. A UK variant, B.1.1.7, a South African Variant, B.1.351 and a Brazilian variant, P. have emerged. (and most likely others) Concern arises over mutations in their S proteins that may be associated with increased transmissibility. This investigation studied the sera from a very small number of subjects previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 for neutralizing antibody susceptibility against B.1.351 before and after booster with mRNA vaccine. They also studied sera antibody susceptibility of non-infected fully mRNA vaccinated individuals. The neutralizing antibody from previously infected, non-vaccinated patients was ten fold weaker against the B.1.351 variant than earlier variants in the pandemic. The authors then examined whether the B.1.351 would be resistant to the antibody response elicited mRNA vaccine currently on the market in previously infected and non-infected patients. Prior to vaccination five of 15 previously infected individuals showed activity against B.1.351, after vaccination 12 of 15 exhibited neutralizing activity against B.1.351. In non-infected, fully vaccinated individuals eight of 13 achieved 80% neutralizing activity against B.1.351. In previously infected individuals a single booster dose with an mRNA vaccine produced higher antibody titers than two doses in previously non-infected individuals. INTERIM ESTIMATES OF VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS OF BNT1623 AND mRNA-1273 COVID-19 VACCINES IN PREVENTING SARS-CoV-2 INFECTION AMONG HEALTH CARE PERSONNEL, FIRST RESPONDERS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL FRONTLINE WORKERS - EIGHT US LOCATIONS, DECEMBER 2020 - MARCH 2021 CDC - WMMR March 29,2021 Mark G. Thompson, PhD et al. 3950 health care personnel, first responders and other essential frontline workers completed weekly SARS-CoV-2 testing for 13 consecutive weeks. 62.1% females 71.9% 18 - 49 86.3% Caucasian and non-Hispanic 68.9% with no co-morbidities SARS-CoV-2 was diagnosed with RT-PCR in 5.2% (205) of the group, there were 2 hospitalizations (0.9%) and zero deaths. There were 116,657 person days when patients were not vaccinated with 161 confirmed PCR tests, a rate of 1.38/1000 days. There were 8 PCR confirmed infections that occurred during 41,856 person days with partial immunization (> than 14 days after first dose and before second dose), a rate of 0.19/1000 days There were 3 PCR confirmed cases during 78,902 person days with full immunization ( >14 days after second dose), a rate of 0.04/1000 days. NUMBERS Deaths - 548,765 up 5911 from last week but down from 6927 the week before Vaccinations - we have now given over 162 million shots, 59.9 million have completed full vaccination and we averaged 3.07 million shots per day for the last seven days. The US received a little over 27,200,000 vaccines for distribution to the states from drug makers in the last seven days New Weekly Cases - new weekly cases continue to rise as bad behavior continues to prevail and too many ignore the science of mitigation. Apparently very willing to have more citizens die and and spend tremendous sums of money in combating the virus and prolonging its existence in our country. Booster injections will probably become necessary, but what the hell, it is only money, disease and pestilence!! 449,112 new cases last week, up for the fourth week in a row. Case Fatality Rate - 1.49% (calculated since 10/15/20) Enjoy the day Live safer Be well 4/11/21 Update https://www.nothingbutthetruthmd.com/2021/04/41121-covid-19-update.html BOOSTER SHOTS The possible advisability of booster shots will be a multifaceted, complex issue. The first question that will need to be addressed is the number of potentially vulnerable people who might benefit from booster shots. People who have not opted to receive a vaccination will be vulnerable, but they will mot be part of the booster shot population as they chose not get a vaccination in the first place. They will contribute to the reservoir of people who can potentially transmit the disease to those who are/become vulnerable, despite the fact that they have been vaccinated. A percentage of this group of non-vaccinated individuals may ultimately decide to get vaccinated for a variety of reasons. Primary vaccine failure - a percentage of the vaccinated population who did not seroconvert, and are thus vulnerable going forward, to infection with Covid-19. Secondary vaccine failure - it is appears that protective antibody levels will wane as we go forward. There have been some studies that have looked at this phenomena, and there are post vaccination monitoring programs that are looking at antibody levels and other investigations looking at clinical efficacy, which should provide us with answers to how long vaccinated individuals will be protected. It will not be an absolute number, there will be increasing percentages as time goes on. If in fact, diminishing antibody levels are associated with serious morbidity and or mortality from Covid-19 disease, a decision will need to be made as to the timing of booster shots. Will we decide to give booster shots when 20% or 40% or 60% of the population become vulnerable? Will this pandemic die out as the Spanish Flu did? There was no therapeutic vaccine available in 1918. Did the virus evolve into a rather benign variant, or did herd immunity play a dominant role in the phasing out of the disease? If either were to occur, booster shots would not be necessary. Cost/benefit analysis I will just focus on mRNA vaccines which have provided us with a very significant safety record. IF there have been any causally related vaccine deaths out of the 168 million vaccinations performed in the US so far, they are few. It does not appear, at this time, that we need to concern ourselves with vaccine related significant morbidity as we have with Polio vaccine (vaccine associated paralysis) or Measles vaccines (rare neuralgic problems) This part of the equation is important, because for the most part, we are vaccinating people who are healthy. We should not be creating anywhere near the morbidity with vaccination that we are eliminating by vaccination. Clinical effectiveness - if we just focus on lives saved, it appears that case fatality rate is reduced to near zero with vaccination. Since October 2020, in unvaccinated individuals, the case fatality rate has hovered around 1.49 %. In 2020, it is believed that 330,000 died of Covid-19 related disease. For every hundred or so people vaccinated we would have saved about 1.5 people, for 200 vaccinated people we saved 3 lives (I don't like dealing with 1/2 lives) Cost effectiveness - VALUE OF STATISTICAL LIFE - what society is willing to pay to reduce the risk of mortality. A common figure that is used by economists that involves trade offs between public safety and economic cost is $9 - $10 million/life saved. It is what we as a society are willing to spend to reduce the odds of dying. Currently, the Federal Government is underwriting the costs of the vaccine and its administration. The cost is in the hundreds of billions of dollars but not in the trillions. Besides the death benefit, there is the benefit of a near normally functioning society and its attendant social and economic benefits. Is there some level of disease prevalence and coincident morbidity and mortality that society is willing to tolerate without some intervention? Certainly, when it comes to mitigation efforts, there is a level of disease morbidity and mortality that society is willing to tolerate to avoid social and economic impact. We can look at the current level of daily new cases and deaths as tolerable, given the fact that mitigation efforts are currently being phased out. I suspect that the tolerable level of disease prevalence will be much lower if the only intervention society is being asked (be inconvenienced by) to make is vaccination. These levels of tolerability would serve as trigger points for initiation of a booster shot program. There are serious questions that need to be answered before the utility of booster vaccinations can be determined. I do believe that booster vaccinations will be in our future. NUMBERS Deaths - 555,710 There were 6945 deaths this week, up from 5911 last week. This is not unexpected given the fact that weekly new cases numbers have been increasing for five weeks and deaths usually lag new weekly case numbers by about 30 days. I would expect that the weekly deaths will continue to increase over the previous weeks numbers for the next month or so. Vaccinations - We have now provided 183 million vaccinations. Over the last seven days we have average 3.11 million vaccinations per day. Last weeks average daily vaccination number was 3.07 million vaccinations per day. There are now 70.7 million people who have completed a vaccination schedule. The US government received 29,800,000 doses of vaccine for distribution to the states over the last seven days. That is over the 26,800,000 doses the US had received the week prior. This, despite a minimal contribution from the J&J vaccine. The mRNA manufacturers have done an outstanding job. Pfizer, in particular, has handled the development, testing, manufacturing and distribution of its vaccine without a hitch. A model of effective, efficient operations. New Weekly cases - There were 490,758 new weekly cases this week, up from 449,112 the week before. Weekly new cases numbers have grown weekly for the past five weeks. If nothing changes but the numbers of vaccinated people, I would expect this five week trend to end sometime in the next four or five weeks as completely vaccinated individuals goes past 100 million. CFR - 1.49 since October 15, 2020 Enjoy the day Live safer Be well
April 11, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, lynched1 said: I'm far more responsible than you'll ever hope to be in this life. Quit yer crying nancy. Gee, coulda sworn it was you in here crying about mask wearing and covid being a farce. You post in here about happily shopping mask free - because you're a Fing irresponsible idiot.
April 11, 20214 yr 18 hours ago, Boogyman said: 19 hours ago, lynched1 said: I wish you people would get your damn shots already so we can move on from this farce. 🤔 I would expect that puzzle you.
April 11, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, Toastrel said: Gee, coulda sworn it was you in here crying about mask wearing and covid being a farce. You post in here about happily shopping mask free - because you're a Fing irresponsible idiot. Stop your whining nancy. Not everyone lives your bubble of fear. Coward. 🤘
April 11, 20214 yr Numbers still rising even though more vaccinated , read a story about people getting it even though they got the vaccine, was NY post so maybe they are full of it
April 11, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Numbers still rising even though more vaccinated , read a story about people getting it even though they got the vaccine, was NY post so maybe they are full of it
April 11, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, paco said: Actually one of the important numbers is hospitalizations which for the 14 day period are +8%, at least deaths are down https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
April 11, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Numbers still rising even though more vaccinated , read a story about people getting it even though they got the vaccine, was NY post so maybe they are full of it Less than 0.01% of fully vaccinated people in Michigan have tested positive. I don't know the numbers nationally, but I'd imagine they're largely in line with that. You should know better than to take anything from the NY Post at face value.
April 11, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Less than 0.01% of fully vaccinated people in Michigan have tested positive. I don't know the numbers nationally, but I'd imagine they're largely in line with that. You should know better than to take anything from the NY Post at face value. Yeah I have blocked them and fox news from my google news account
April 11, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, lynched1 said: I would expect that puzzle you. Quit crying about other people getting their shots, Nancy
April 11, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Boogyman said: Quit crying about other people getting their shots, Nancy I'm all for you getting the damn things. It's your incessant whining about the subject.......Nancy
April 11, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, lynched1 said: I'm all for you getting the damn things. It's your incessant whining about the subject.......Nancy Maybe some of us don't want to get it, Stacey. How about you mind your own business what we put in our bodies, Stephanie? How about you quote me where I spoke about getting a covid vaccine, Rachel? 😉 😉 😉
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