got my first pfizer today at 3:30. so far had some dry mouth on the ride home, been drinking a lot of water and it went away pretty quick. arm is starting to get a bit sore.

34 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

got my first pfizer today at 3:30. so far had some dry mouth on the ride home, been drinking a lot of water and it went away pretty quick. arm is starting to get a bit sore.

Did you smoke a blunt in the observation room?

7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Less than 0.01% of fully vaccinated people in Michigan have tested positive. I don't know the numbers nationally, but I'd imagine they're largely in line with that. You should know better than to take anything from the NY Post at face value.

They do have the best headlines though....

51 minutes ago, rambo said:

Did you smoke a blunt in the observation room?

I'm not some kind of animal.

I vaped

I heard from a friend in Toronto that Montreal is going into another lockdown, with an 8 PM curfew, beginning tomorrow.  I guess Canada is employing the lockdown-until-no-one-tests-positive strategy.

23 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

I heard from a friend in Toronto that Montreal is going into another lockdown, with an 8 PM curfew, beginning tomorrow.  I guess Canada is employing the lockdown-until-no-one-tests-positive strategy.

 

Canada is in bad shape. Not only are they surging, but also their vaccine distribution is really lagging, so much so that they're going against the manufacturer's recommendations and spacing out mRNA doses by 4 months.

6 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Canada is in bad shape. Not only are they surging, but also their vaccine distribution is really lagging, so much so that they're going against the manufacturer's recommendations and spacing out mRNA doses by 4 months.

They are behind in vaccinations, for sure.  The same people I know that looked south at us and saw higher case numbers per capita and were glad they were in Canada now wish they were more like the US.  I don't know if their cases are surging, though.  I don't really know what defines a "surge" in the first place.

1 in 28,000 in the U.S. with adverse reacitons (.0004%)

9 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

1 in 28,000 in the U.S. with adverse reacitons (.0004%)

That defines a "surge"? Or was this just a general comment or for something else?

21 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

That defines a "surge"? Or was this just a general comment or for something else?

 

Just noting a statistic I saw that's relevant to the thread. It's unrelated to my response to your post.

33 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

I don't know if their cases are surging, though.  I don't really know what defines a "surge" in the first place.

 

Well, it looks something like this: 

 

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Just noting a statistic I saw that's relevant to the thread. It's unrelated to my response to your post.

Okay, thanks.  This isn't directed at you, but I see "surge" thrown around all the time by the media and scientists, but have yet to see any kind of consensus on when rises in cases are a surge.  Is an increase of 1 case per 100,000 people a surge?  10 cases per 100,000?  25?  50?  100?  Unless it gets defined, I wish people would use less emotionally-charged words and simply say increase or decrease.  Otherwise, people can use emotionally-charged words the other way, and call any type of decrease in cases a "freefall".

42 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Canada is in bad shape. Not only are they surging, but also their vaccine distribution is really lagging, so much so that they're going against the manufacturer's recommendations and spacing out mRNA doses by 4 months.

They complain about government over reach here?? Lmao they have no idea how bad it can really be. Some of those countries are locking their entire country down for one freaking case. 

9 hours ago, xzmattzx said:

Okay, thanks.  This isn't directed at you, but I see "surge" thrown around all the time by the media and scientists, but have yet to see any kind of consensus on when rises in cases are a surge.  Is an increase of 1 case per 100,000 people a surge?  10 cases per 100,000?  25?  50?  100?  Unless it gets defined, I wish people would use less emotionally-charged words and simply say increase or decrease.  Otherwise, people can use emotionally-charged words the other way, and call any type of decrease in cases a "freefall".

 

It's a general term as far as I know, I haven't seen a statistical definition, but there might be one out there based on 7-day average. I wouldn't really say it's emotionally charged, but I feel like it's kind of a "know it when you see it type of thing." If the curve is bending steadily or sharply upward, you're surging.

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It's a general term as far as I know, I haven't seen a statistical definition, but their might be one out their based on 7-day average. I feel like it's kind of a "know it when you see it type of thing." If the curve is bending steadily or sharply upward, you're surging.

When you look at a composite from the past 14 months, like you posted, you can see a general month-long trend and say that it's a surge or one of the waves that is referenced.  But news sources using "surge" so much gets on my nerves.  It's overly simplistic and it's quite frankly shoddy reporting because there is no context connected to it.  Plus, it is an emotionally-charged word that can instill fear in people, which may be unintentional, but may also be deliberate on the part of the writer in some instances.  "Wave" is a better term to use, just to start off, because it implies the sharp increase in cases, the plateau in cases, and the accompanying decrease in cases until you reach the lull.  It is also less emotionally-charged, in my opinion.  Better yet, quantifying increases and decreases with some simple numbers, like "cases have gone from x per 100,000 to 3x per 100,000 in the 7-day rolling average" would allow people to process the information rationally.

 

Sorry that you happen to be the one that's getting the rant, since it is just about reporting in general, but it has been bothering me more and more as the months go on.  I would've thought that some better context would have been applied by now, since we have more than a year of data and can compare the present with last winter, last fall, last summer, and last spring.

5 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Canada is in bad shape. Not only are they surging, but also their vaccine distribution is really lagging, so much so that they're going against the manufacturer's recommendations and spacing out mRNA doses by 4 months.

We just had our highest number of single day cases in Ontario since the pandemic began and a positivity rate of 7.7%. ICU's are running at all time highs with Covid patients. The UK variant is running rampant here right now while the Brazilian one is spreading out west. 

This is very much anecdotal, but the number of people that I know personally that have either tested positive or are having to quarantine as a high risk contact has exploded over the past week. Add in lockdowns and pandemic fatigue and this isn't a very happy place right now. 

Second Pfizer shot yesterday. They warned me about feeling lethargic today.

So far, just a sore arm - a little more sore than the first shot. Not the dead arm feeling, but the recovering from a strain feeling.

Other than that, no symptoms.

4 hours ago, Dawkins 20 said:

We just had our highest number of single day cases in Ontario since the pandemic began and a positivity rate of 7.7%. ICU's are running at all time highs with Covid patients. The UK variant is running rampant here right now while the Brazilian one is spreading out west. 

This is very much anecdotal, but the number of people that I know personally that have either tested positive or are having to quarantine as a high risk contact has exploded over the past week. Add in lockdowns and pandemic fatigue and this isn't a very happy place right now. 

Yea but don't you dare call it a surge! Lest you want to get on xxmattxx's nerves! 

10 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

1 in 28,000 in the U.S. with adverse reacitons (.0004%)

TBF, how many people report them?  Schmoopie had a bad reaction and I went to the site to report it.  But it was such a pain in the ass I grabbed a beer and watched cartoons instead.

9 hours ago, xzmattzx said:

Okay, thanks.  This isn't directed at you, but I see "surge" thrown around all the time by the media and scientists, but have yet to see any kind of consensus on when rises in cases are a surge.  Is an increase of 1 case per 100,000 people a surge?  10 cases per 100,000?  25?  50?  100?  Unless it gets defined, I wish people would use less emotionally-charged words and simply say increase or decrease.  Otherwise, people can use emotionally-charged words the other way, and call any type of decrease in cases a "freefall".

If Joe says surge, you can ignore it.  He was literally saying that during  a steep decline in cases when a single day reported slightly higher numbers.

 

I'm here to help.

1 minute ago, paco said:

If Joe says surge, you can ignore it.  He was literally saying that during  a steep decline in cases when a single day reported slightly higher numbers.

 

I'm here to help.

there's an insane surge every monday! we have to do something about this, covid is out of control!

3 minutes ago, paco said:

TBF, how many people report them?  Schmoopie had a bad reaction and I went to the site to report it.  But it was such a pain in the ass I grabbed a beer and watched cartoons instead.

Yeah, I don't know what qualifies as "adverse," but I'd assume it'd have to be some kind of physical rejection of the vaccine and just really feeling like crap wouldn't qualify. Either way, those numbers are encouraging.

4 hours ago, Dawkins 20 said:

We just had our highest number of single day cases in Ontario since the pandemic began and a positivity rate of 7.7%. ICU's are running at all time highs with Covid patients. The UK variant is running rampant here right now while the Brazilian one is spreading out west. 

This is very much anecdotal, but the number of people that I know personally that have either tested positive or are having to quarantine as a high risk contact has exploded over the past week. Add in lockdowns and pandemic fatigue and this isn't a very happy place right now. 

Yeah.  I'm trying to make it to my 1st vaccine shot in a month.  We've had 5 cases in my office of 12 in the last month or so.  Great during tax season.  Our office is pretty safe (masks, sanitizer, etc...) and most of the cases are because of outside contacts.  I'm just locking myself in my office with as little contact as possible.  Trying to survive a tax season in which 4 CPAs have been out for the better part of the last month.  It's a kick in the dick.

My brother got his first dose this past weekend, so that basically means everyone in my household as well as immediate and extended family that I interact with have received at least one dose, coincidentally all the same variety, too; we're a Pfizer family, lol.