3 minutes ago, homerpat said:

Also I’m sure it’s been discussed but won’t unvaccinated just not wear masks and say yeah i’m vaccinated. No one will stop them for proof. Seems a bit early, but whatever. I can be patient and careful til kids vaccinated

BINGO

3 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

Freighter more your mode of transportation, eh fatty? 

34 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Many are doing that now but if the vaccinated are protected then who cares, at this point any adult can get a vaccine that wants it, as someone said natural selection

My kids aren’t vaccinated and hence at risk. Don’t feel like hiding them away when they’ve been able to be out and about with the masks under the assumption that everyone is masked including those who are carriers. 

 

 

36 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

 

That's f'ing disgusting  🤣🤣🤣

Already feeling the repercussions of this CDC stupidity. Principal apparently has received numerous questions about masks in the last day. He reiterated that PDE guidelines remain in place, but this is going to be a mess. Kids and parents will now claim they don't have to wear masks in school now, and will now cite the CDC after hating on them for over a year.

8 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

That's f'ing disgusting  🤣🤣🤣

That's old-school internet, right thurr.

9 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Many are doing that now but if the vaccinated are protected then who cares, at this point any adult can get a vaccine that wants it, as someone said natural selection

When everyone has had the chance to be vaccinated, I will agree, but many adults and teens are still waiting on second doses, and the 12-15s just got approved the other day. It's too soon.

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Already feeling the repercussions of this CDC stupidity. Principal apparently has received numerous questions about masks in the last day. He reiterated that PDE guidelines remain in place, but this is going to be a mess. Kids and parents will now claim they don't have to wear masks in school now, and will now cite the CDC after hating on them for over a year.

tbf, CDC says kids who are not fully vaccinated must continue to wear facemasks. That is, those who are in-between doses and those who have yet to receive a dose, until two weeks after the final dose. But yeah, lots of people are ready to ditch the mask, vaccinated or no.  

I agree, I think it's too soon. Too much virus still being transmitted, too many people still not vaccinated, especially kids. Essentially CDC is saying it does not matter anymore. 

 

19 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

 

If I had been single this whole time, I'd probably either be dead right now or babbling on a street corner somewhere.

55 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Already feeling the repercussions of this CDC stupidity. Principal apparently has received numerous questions about masks in the last day. He reiterated that PDE guidelines remain in place, but this is going to be a mess. Kids and parents will now claim they don't have to wear masks in school now, and will now cite the CDC after hating on them for over a year.

The irony can cut both ways

I don't have a problem with the CDC guidance. It's reflecting what we've known for several weeks now, that wearing a mask after being fully vaccinated is only providing negligible protection in the vast majority of cases.

Now whether states use this guidance to repeal mask mandates is a different story. That should be based on regional or state wide vaccination and daily case rates. Naturally you can't ask a place of business to check vaccination cards for anyone not wearing a mask, so it makes sense to set a threshold and then repeal once it's been reacted. Trying to discern the vaccinated from unvaccinated at the door is pointless.

Concerts and other large events need to be handled differently though.

Skip ahead to 2:56.  What a maroon.

 

8 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said:

The irony can cut both ways

I never trashed them as an institution and I respect the doctors and scientists working there. I have pretty much backed everything they've said, except for this and one of the other more recent changes they made (I can't remember what it was). I think this guidance is theoretically reasonable, but not in reality because people will take advantage.

 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I don't have a problem with the CDC guidance. It's reflecting what we've known for several weeks now, that wearing a mask after being fully vaccinated is only providing negligible protection in the vast majority of cases.

 

Right, this DOES follow the science, but it doesn't account for that fact that many Americans are selfish a-holes. We still have a lot of unvaccinated people who are vulnerable.

21 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I never trashed them as an institution and I respect the doctors and scientists working there. I have pretty much backed everything they've said, except for this and one of the other more recent changes they made (I can't remember what it was). I think this guidance is theoretically reasonable, but not in reality because people will take advantage.

 

 

Right, this DOES follow the science, but it doesn't account for that fact that many Americans are selfish a-holes. We still have a lot of unvaccinated people who are vulnerable.

That's on them.  They should have been vaccinated months ago if they have a qualified condition.

3 minutes ago, rambo said:

That's on them.  They should have been vaccinated months ago if they have a qualified condition.

I'm talking about unvaccinated kids and adults waiting on second doses, not those with pre-existing conditions. Anyone who is not fully vaccinated is vulnerable.

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I'm talking about unvaccinated kids and adults waiting on second doses, not those with pre-existing conditions. Anyone who is not fully vaccinated is vulnerable.

I wouldn't consider them vulnerable.  I know quite a few "healthy" people who have had it and none of them had complications.  Mostly 3 days out of commission and loss of taste and smell in some cases.  I'd be more concerned if the ones with comorbidities didn't have the opportunity to get vaccinated.  Kids will be fine.  It doesn't seem to phase them.  My 13 year old nephew had it and was fine after a day or two.

45 minutes ago, rambo said:

I wouldn't consider them vulnerable.  I know quite a few "healthy" people who have had it and none of them had complications.  Mostly 3 days out of commission and loss of taste and smell in some cases.  I'd be more concerned if the ones with comorbidities didn't have the opportunity to get vaccinated.  Kids will be fine.  It doesn't seem to phase them.  My 13 year old nephew had it and was fine after a day or two.

This is all merely anecdotal. You're basically saying, "I got mine! Too bad, suckers!" Anyone, even kids, can get very sick and die from this. Vulnerable=unprotected. We have variants circulating that are much more contagious and virulent. Anyone who is not fully vaccinated is at a much greater risk of contracting serious illness, and some of those younger populations that do have underlying conditions are still only now able to sign up. It's only fair to make sure everyone has had that chance.

And, at the end of the day, some people have conditions that mean they can't get vaccinated, so we need to get to herd immunity for these people to resume some semblance of a normal life.

There are plenty of kids with complicating medical conditions, where contracting COVID could be especially risky, who are unable to be vaccinated.

19 minutes ago, rambo said:

I wouldn't consider them vulnerable.  I know quite a few "healthy" people who have had it and none of them had complications.  Mostly 3 days out of commission and loss of taste and smell in some cases.  I'd be more concerned if the ones with comorbidities didn't have the opportunity to get vaccinated.  Kids will be fine.  It doesn't seem to phase them.  My 13 year old nephew had it and was fine after a day or two.

Both my kids have it right now.  They are both completely fine.  My son had a very slight fever for one day.  My daughter had an even slighter fever one day.  As soon as they are done they’re getting vaccinated.

Side note:  last night my blind wife brushed her teeth with my daughter’s toothbrush by mistake.  She (my wife) is fully vaccinated, so this will be a good test to see how effective the Pfizer vaccine is. 

3 minutes ago, bobeph said:

Side note:  last night my blind wife brushed her teeth with my daughter’s toothbrush by mistake.  She (my wife) is fully vaccinated, so this will be a good test to see how effective the Pfizer vaccine is. 

Good luck! FYI. Lots of reports coming in of breakthrough infections, those who are fully vaccinated are now testing positive for coronavirus. But virtually all have mild or no symptoms. For the fully vaccinated, CDC is only recommending those who have symptoms to be tested.  

Well this thread was awesome for two days - I see we're back to the usual suspects whining about masks and their sore vaginas again 

YOU WANT BEEF?

Do the fully vaccinated still have to quarantine after being exposed?

Bo hope your wife does ok.  I tried not to laugh 😷

9 minutes ago, bobeph said:

Side note:  last night my blind wife brushed her teeth with my daughter’s toothbrush by mistake.  She (my wife) is fully vaccinated, so this will be a good test to see how effective the Pfizer vaccine is. 

oh, your wife is blind. that explains a lot.

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I never trashed them as an institution and I respect the doctors and scientists working there. I have pretty much backed everything they've said, except for this and one of the other more recent changes they made (I can't remember what it was). I think this guidance is theoretically reasonable, but not in reality because people will take advantage.

 

 

Right, this DOES follow the science, but it doesn't account for that fact that many Americans are selfish a-holes. We still have a lot of unvaccinated people who are vulnerable.

1. This may provide incentive for them to actually get vaccinated. I fully support the right of private businesses (airlines, restaurants, etc.) to demand proof of vaccination. 

2. Those who aren't vaccinated because they can't be (e.g., kids) can protect themselves with masks. The data shows us that vaccinated people who get COVID don't get sick enough to spread it.

3. Darwin wins again.