May 14, 20215 yr 20 minutes ago, bobeph said: Both my kids have it right now. They are both completely fine. My son had a very slight fever for one day. My daughter had an even slighter fever one day. As soon as they are done they’re getting vaccinated. Side note: last night my blind wife brushed her teeth with my daughter’s toothbrush by mistake. She (my wife) is fully vaccinated, so this will be a good test to see how effective the Pfizer vaccine is. Despite concerns early on, it actually doesn't survive on surfaces for very long. There was a study where researchers in Europe tried to culture live virus from samples of various contaminated surfaces and they repeatedly failed. That's why the whole "wipe down your groceries" routine was ridiculous. Now if the toothbrush had fresh saliva on it from minutes earlier that's a bit more plausible.
May 14, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Despite concerns early on, it actually doesn't survive on surfaces for very long. There was a study where researchers in Europe tried to culture live virus from samples of various contaminated surfaces and they repeatedly failed. That's why the whole "wipe down your groceries" routine was ridiculous. Now if the toothbrush had fresh saliva on it from minutes earlier that's a bit more plausible. can the virus survive if eaten? I would suspect most of whatever was on the toothbrush would be either rinsed out or swallowed. maybe some residual would remain, I dunno if there have been studies on blind wives using the wrong toothbrush
May 14, 20215 yr It seems to me like the virus could survive a bit longer than usual in a moist environment, like a toothbrush in a bathroom. IDK
May 14, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, toolg said: It seems to me like the virus could survive a bit longer than usual in a moist environment, like a toothbrush in a bathroom. IDK
May 14, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: can the virus survive if eaten? I would suspect most of whatever was on the toothbrush would be either rinsed out or swallowed. maybe some residual would remain, I dunno if there have been studies on blind wives using the wrong toothbrush Highly unlikely. The enzymes in the saliva are suspected of being able to denature the the surface proteins (including the spike protein) fairly quickly.
May 14, 20215 yr 22 minutes ago, vikas83 said: 1. This may provide incentive for them to actually get vaccinated. I fully support the right of private businesses (airlines, restaurants, etc.) to demand proof of vaccination. 2. Those who aren't vaccinated because they can't be (e.g., kids) can protect themselves with masks. The data shows us that vaccinated people who get COVID don't get sick enough to spread it. 3. Darwin wins again. What I'm saying is that some adults and teens are waiting on second doses, and the 12-15s are only now just getting the chance for a jab. The fair thing in my mind is to let these last groups have a fair shot to get vaxxed before letting everyone roam maskless. Once everyone has had a fair shot, then I fully agree with your position. In terms of incentivizing the hesitant, I don't think this will move the needle much. Those who were hesitant will probably just feel like now they can drop their mask, claim they are vaccinated, and resume normal life. If they get sick and die, I don't care, but I do think we should let those around them acquire immunity first before allowing the morons to expose them.
May 14, 20215 yr 28 minutes ago, toolg said: Good luck! FYI. Lots of reports coming in of breakthrough infections, those who are fully vaccinated are now testing positive for coronavirus. But virtually all have mild or no symptoms. For the fully vaccinated, CDC is only recommending those who have symptoms to be tested. Yeah, been seeing that. 24 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: oh, your wife is blind. that explains a lot. Touché, A-Hole! 11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Despite concerns early on, it actually doesn't survive on surfaces for very long. There was a study where researchers in Europe tried to culture live virus from samples of various contaminated surfaces and they repeatedly failed. That's why the whole "wipe down your groceries" routine was ridiculous. Now if the toothbrush had fresh saliva on it from minutes earlier that's a bit more plausible. Yeah, we shall see. So far so good.
May 14, 20215 yr If I'm being totally selfish here, I hope this new guidance moves Hawaii to open the F up. I really don't want to have to get TWO covid tests for my vacation.
May 14, 20215 yr This is why Americans no longer have faith in virtually any gov. institution: Just ridiculously stupid messaging.
May 14, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: This is why Americans no longer have faith in virtually any gov. institution: Just ridiculously stupid messaging. False. She was talking about her personal feelings due to cases rising again. Now is one of those times when I have to share the truth, and I have to hope and trust you will listen. I'm going to pause here. I'm going to lose the script, and I'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling I have of impending doom," Walensky said, appearing to tear up. Then went on to say We have so much to look forward to, so much promise and potential of where we are and so much reason for hope. But right now, I'm scared," Walensky said. "I know what it's like as a physician to stand in that patient room — gowned, gloved, masked, shielded — and to be the last person to touch someone else's loved one, because they are not able to be there What we've seen over the last week or so is a steady rise of cases," Walensky said. "I know that travel is up, and I just worry that we will see the surges that we saw over the summer and over the winter again
May 14, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, downundermike said: False. She was talking about her personal feelings due to cases rising again. Then went on to say Yes, the tweet is accurate. The director of the CDC said she felt impending doom over coronavirus at the end of March, fast forward less the two months later and we're declaring victory. It's a total joke, much like almost everything our government does.
May 14, 20215 yr 12 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yes, the tweet is accurate. The director of the CDC said she felt impending doom over coronavirus at the end of March, fast forward less the two months later and we're declaring victory. It's a total joke, much like almost everything our government does. Yet the tweet said - On March 29th, the CDC director warned the country we faced "impending doom” over covid. So the tweet took her personal feelings, and then portrayed them that she stated them as fact.
May 14, 20215 yr It kinda was a stupid tweet. I understand what she was trying to do, but it wasn't a good look, and (as much as it pains me to say it) Kz kind of does have a point here. If your director is going push the "impending doom line" going from that to "no masks" in 6 weeks sort of a "wtf" moment. Regardless of how you personally feel about it, it does give fodder to the opposition.
May 14, 20215 yr 41 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: No more masks!!! Pants on zoom meetings is still optional.
May 14, 20215 yr And in case anyone is wondering how we’ll know if the unmarked people are actually vaccinated and not just lying, I developed a t shirt line.
May 14, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, downundermike said: Yet the tweet said - On March 29th, the CDC director warned the country we faced "impending doom” over covid. So the tweet took her personal feelings, and then portrayed them that she stated them as fact. Yeah, you're whining over semantics again and missing the entire point. The tweet is correct in pointing out just how idiotic the CDC's messaging has been all along, and that's why people generally roll their eyes and do a dismissive wanking gesture when anyone brings them up now.
May 14, 20215 yr Repugs: "Having children wear masks is child abuse. Masks don't work anyway!" Also Repugs: "It's fine that we're dropping masks while most kids aren't vaccinated. The kids can just keep wearing masks to stay protected!"
May 14, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yeah, you're whining over semantics again and missing the entire point. The tweet is correct in pointing out just how idiotic the CDC's messaging has been all along, and that's why people generally roll their eyes and do a dismissive wanking gesture when anyone brings them up now. If she is a worrier, not biggie to me. Just like I don't let Joe Shades personal feelings and worries impact me. And people generally do not roll their eyes. Trumptards and anti vaxers may do that, sane people who trust science and medicine do not.
May 14, 20215 yr Just now, downundermike said: If she is a worrier, not biggie to me. Just like I don't let Joe Shades personal feelings and worries impact me. And people generally do not roll their eyes. Trumptards and anti vaxers may do that, sane people who trust science and medicine do not. Eh...that example when she basically started crying on camera was cringe-worthy and seriously dented her credibility. Administration is smart to have Fauci making the rounds on the news shows. The key seems to be evidence from Israel that vaccinated people who get COVID don't get sick/infected enough to spread it. The viral load doesn't get high enough so they can't transmit. That's why vaccinated people can stop wearing masks -- those that are vaccinated can't spread.
May 14, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, downundermike said: If she is a worrier, not biggie to me. Just like I don't let Joe Shades personal feelings and worries impact me. And people generally do not roll their eyes. Trumptards and anti vaxers may do that, sane people who trust science and medicine do not. Bootlickers and government fanbois like you don't, that's for sure.
May 14, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Administration is smart to have Fauci making the rounds on the news shows. The key seems to be evidence from Israel that vaccinated people who get COVID don't get sick/infected enough to spread it. The viral load doesn't get high enough so they can't transmit. That's why vaccinated people can stop wearing masks -- those that are vaccinated can't spread. Possibly the best news yet. Wonder how Sunshine will spin this one...
May 14, 20215 yr The way I look at it is... We've reached the point we always thought we would reach. Vaccinated or not, we are all going to catch this coronavirus sooner or later. The virus is endemic, it's not going anywhere. So any further effort to avoid it is futile. Either you get vaccinated, and you will likely encounter a relatively mild illness at worse; or you don't, and your chance of serious illness is much greater.
May 14, 20215 yr I don't think anyone is suggesting masks needed to be mandated forever, just that there are some states where higher prevalence of community spread still put unvaccinated populations at risk. In any case, for those of us with kids, the best we can do is hope the case rates continue to drop before the mask mandates are lifted. I imagine those still dealing with covid patients in hospitals or doctor's offices feel the same way.
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