June 4, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I might be jumping into this without full context but with medical coverage in this country it isn't that black and white. Not being able to pay for a procedure doesn't necessarily mean "irresponsible". Again, my apologies if this is out of context and I missed something in your previous posts. Have those people tried being less poor yet?
June 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Have those people tried being less poor yet? I mean, I agree. Well, have you?
June 4, 20214 yr 25 minutes ago, Kz! said: OK, last chance, ishlibs, or I'm claiming victory and taking a huge W into the weekend with me. Name one way in which Repubs have moved us to the right on any issue besides abortion over the last ten years or so. Well you did say recently. And since they suffered an epic loss in the presidential election because they had a loser running, and that same loser also made them lose control of the Senate, it's pretty much impossible for them to have passed any legislation recently. Also I would call all the environmental laws that were rolled back under the last administration examples.
June 4, 20214 yr Sorry to go off topic and bring up the virus but any big news recently? I am trying to avoid the TV "News" networks which only care about ratings
June 4, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Well you did say recently. And since they suffered an epic loss in the presidential election because they had a loser running, and that same loser also made them lose control of the Senate, it's pretty much impossible for them to have passed any legislation recently. Also I would call all the environmental laws that were rolled back under the last administration examples. Which ones specifically?
June 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Which ones specifically? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html The bulk of the rollbacks identified by the Times were carried out by the Environmental Protection Agency, which weakened Obama-era limits on planet-warming carbon dioxide emissions from power plants and from cars and trucks; removed protections from more than half the nation’s wetlands; and withdrew the legal justification for restricting mercury emissions from power plants.
June 4, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Sorry to go off topic and bring up the virus but any big news recently? I am trying to avoid the TV "News" networks which only care about ratings We're all gonna die. Poor people sooner. Not sure if that qualifies as big news though.
June 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Which ones specifically? Yeah I'm not typing all all that out. A whole lot.
June 4, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: We're all gonna die. Poor people sooner. Not sure if that qualifies as big news though. For us poors it does
June 4, 20214 yr 52 minutes ago, Kz! said: OK, last chance, ishlibs, or I'm claiming victory and taking a huge W into the weekend with me. Name one way in which Repubs have moved us to the right on any issue besides abortion over the last ten years or so. Jesus, the adults were trying to talk. We missed your posts. Abortion restrictions (more than a few gov's, nearly every red state has recently enacted extreme abortion laws), Immigration (we've gone a millions miles from where we were on this, listen to Republicans talk about it 40 years ago, it's night and day, even Reagan provided amnesty), like Boogy said, environmental rollbacks, voting restrictions, and then there's the fact that the Supreme Court is now overwhelmingly right-wing and more political than it's ever been. Basically, you have no point. There's plenty of areas where the country's gone right, sometimes to deep extremes, over my lifetime. Your confusion comes because you're looking specifically at Republicans, who have taken a wide left turn fiscally since Trump came on the scene. Which is obviously because he's a populist, not a conservative. But you guys don't care because.....spoiler alert......the Republican Party isn't fiscally conservative. It's a socially conservative, fiscally liberal party now.
June 4, 20214 yr 39 minutes ago, vikas83 said: No, if you're poor, don't have kids and then ask me to take care of them. Or your mom. Or your spouse. Be poor all you want and tell yourself money can't buy love so you feel better about being a failure. But leave me the eff alone. FWIW, the guy who sang that song also happens to be worth 1.2 billion dollars.
June 4, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Jesus, the adults were trying to talk. We missed your posts. Abortion restrictions (more than a few gov's, nearly every red state has recently enacted extreme abortion laws), Immigration (we've gone a millions miles from where we were on this, listen to Republicans talk about it 40 years ago, it's night and day, even Reagan provided amnesty), like Boogy said, environmental rollbacks, voting restrictions, and then there's the fact that the Supreme Court is now overwhelmingly right-wing and more political than it's ever been. Basically, you have no point. There's plenty of areas where the country's gone right, sometimes to deep extremes, over my lifetime. Your confusion comes because you're looking specifically at Republicans, who have taken a wide left turn fiscally since Trump came on the scene. Which is obviously because he's a populist, not a conservative. But you guys don't care because.....spoiler alert......the Republican Party isn't fiscally conservative. It's a socially conservative, fiscally liberal party now. That's the one that I was hoping one of you would say because it illustrates my point perfectly. You can pull up clips of both Clintons and Obama talking about restricting illegal immigration and border walls. Literally almost verbatim what Trump has said that gets him called a NSDAP. lmao But yeah, I'm not sure rolling back EPA regulations that didn't exist pre obama qualifies as moving to the right as opposed to returning to normalcy. Agreed on Republicans being fiscally irresponsible. They're mostly liars and swamp creatures with no real interest in doing anything that will draw criticism. Like the rest of the DC elite, they're beneath contempt.
June 4, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Jesus, the adults were trying to talk. We missed your posts. Abortion restrictions (more than a few gov's, nearly every red state has recently enacted extreme abortion laws), Immigration (we've gone a millions miles from where we were on this, listen to Republicans talk about it 40 years ago, it's night and day, even Reagan provided amnesty), like Boogy said, environmental rollbacks, voting restrictions (not surprisingly fascist voting restrictions from the GOP is a new phenomena), and then there's the fact that the Supreme Court is now overwhelmingly right-wing and more political than it's ever been. Basically, you have no point. There's plenty of areas where the country's gone right, sometimes to deep extremes, over my lifetime. Your confusion comes because you're looking specifically at Republicans, who have taken a wide left turn fiscally since Trump came on the scene. Which is obviously because he's a populist, not a conservative. But you guys don't care because.....spoiler alert......the Republican Party isn't fiscally conservative. It's a socially conservative, fiscally liberal party now. You really don't even have to disprove Kz's point to uncover the damage the GOp has done. Just take it at face value, the GOp does not move the country to the right, they merely halt the "progress" of progressives. So on top of all that add, marriage for gays taking decades longer than it should have.. thank you GOP. Legalization of marijuana taking decades longer than it should have...thank you GOP. It's un-Fing believable that in 2020 we are still in almsot the exact same place we were on green energy 25 years ago...thank you GOP.
June 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: That's the one that I was hoping one of you would say because it illustrates my point perfectly. You can pull up clips of both Clintons and Obama talking about restricting illegal immigration and border walls. Literally almost verbatim what Trump has said that gets him called a NSDAP. lmao But yeah, I'm not sure rolling back EPA regulations that didn't exist pre obama qualifies as moving to the right as opposed to returning to normalcy. Agreed on Republicans being fiscally irresponsible. They're mostly liars and swamp creatures with no real interest in doing anything that will draw criticism. Like the rest of the DC elite, they're beneath contempt. I just checked and I'm struggling to find the Obama speech calling Mexicans rapists or mentioning Muslim prayer rugs at the border. Link? Also, if, in your mind, Obama and Trump are the same on immigration then WHY THE F DID YOU GUYS ELECT TRUMP? His entire platform was immigration and lord knows he wasn't competent or a strong leader. That was the only legitimate appeal, as far as I can tell. But he was the same as Obama?
June 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: I just checked and I'm struggling to find the Obama speech calling Mexicans rapists or mentioning Muslim prayer rugs at the border. Link? Also, if, in your mind, Obama and Trump are the same on immigration then WHY THE F DID YOU GUYS ELECT TRUMP? His entire platform was immigration and lord knows he wasn't competent or a strong leader. That was the only legitimate appeal, as far as I can tell. But he was the same as Obama? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And...scene.
June 4, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I just checked and I'm struggling to find the Obama speech calling Mexicans rapists or mentioning Muslim prayer rugs at the border. Link? Also, if, in your mind, Obama and Trump are the same on immigration then WHY THE F DID YOU GUYS ELECT TRUMP? His entire platform was immigration and lord knows he wasn't competent or a strong leader. That was the only legitimate appeal, as far as I can tell. But he was the same as Obama? How can one person make a fool of themselves so often? Make it stop.
June 4, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I just checked and I'm struggling to find the Obama speech calling Mexicans rapists or mentioning Muslim prayer rugs at the border. Link? It was right after the speech where he admitted being from Kenya
June 4, 20214 yr The next day that goes by without Kz getting stomped by literally everyone in CVON will be the first.
June 4, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I just checked and I'm struggling to find the Obama speech calling Mexicans rapists or mentioning Muslim prayer rugs at the border. Link? Also, if, in your mind, Obama and Trump are the same on immigration then WHY THE F DID YOU GUYS ELECT TRUMP? His entire platform was immigration and lord knows he wasn't competent or a strong leader. That was the only legitimate appeal, as far as I can tell. But he was the same as Obama? Uh Obama said the right things about illegal immigration, moron. He just failed miserably at curbing it like he claimed he wanted to. It’s actually a recent phenomenon that ishlibs have been bamboozled into supporting illegal immigration. 10 years ago both sides were against it. Lmao
June 4, 20214 yr Lmao Biden even said illegals were bringing literal tons of narcotics across the border in a rant about how he voted for more fencing. No word on whether or not he assumes some are good people. like I said, it’s actually a recent phenomenon that ishlibs have been convinced by the media and dem politicians that border security is racist. But as the dumbest cult on the planet you all repeat it like trained seals now. Lmao hate to see it. DPotP.
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