1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Youre drunk.  I have a toddler.  I would never try to put a mask on him because of science.

I am drunk.  But I also edited the post.  

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Edit: ah, damn, Mike's got a kid.  So wait, a woman had sex with Mike?  I find that hard to believe.

You just teed someone up for a WV joke

This is a pre-emptive FU to whoever follows through

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Why exactly?

because you are taking unnecessary risks with your toddler.  the mask won't hurt your toddler, but COVID most certainly could.  poor kid.  doesn't have a chance. 

1 minute ago, barho said:

because you are taking unnecessary risks with your toddler.  the mask won't hurt your toddler, but COVID most certainly could.  poor kid.  doesn't have a chance. 

My toddler is at virtually no risk for COVID, same as your child.  Dont take my word for it, look for yourself. 

But my son is learning to talk and is developing emotionally, he needs to see faces and learn how to read nonverbal communication.  Nevermind the psychological damage it would do to him to be afraid of breathing air for god's sake.

Also, I cant even imagine the amount of bacteria and filth that my toddler would get on that mask and then breathe in. 

And his immune system also needs to develop.  Kids should be playing in the dirt like you and I did when we were kids.

Masking children is against science.  Period. 

9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I have a kid actually, so

Science says there is virtually no risk.  You believe science, correct?

There are hundreds of kids hospitalized in Texas and Florida alone that might disagree. (Almost 300 between those two states)

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

My toddler is at virtually no risk for COVID, same as your child.  Dont take my word for it, look for yourself. 

But my son is learning to talk and is developing emotionally, he needs to see faces and learn how to read nonverbal communication.  Nevermind the psychological damage it would do to him to be afraid of breathing air for god's sake.

Also, I cant even imagine the amount of bacteria and filth that my toddler would get on that mask and then breathe in. 

And his immune system also needs to develop.  Kids should be playing in the dirt like you and I did when we were kids.

Masking children is against science.  Period. 

Depends on what your kid's doing.  In daycare?  Yeah, mask up for the next couple months until there's a kids vaccine.  Playing in the dirt outside of your trailer while you F your cousin inside?  No mask.  

Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

There are hundreds of kids hospitalized in Texas and Florida alone that might disagree. (Almost 300 between those two states)

300 out of what, 10 million?

23 minutes ago, barho said:

some of us have children that are not vaccinated, and thus we can't risk it.

Good news

https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/08/va-vaccine-chief-approval-of-vaccines-for-kids-5-11-likely-in-a-few-weeks/

Just now, VanHammersly said:

Depends on what your kid's doing.  In daycare?  Yeah, mask up for the next couple months until there's a kids vaccine.  Playing in the dirt outside of your trailer while you F your cousin inside?  No mask.  

Hes in daycare. He just got RSV 2 weeks ago.  He gets sick every other week.

Masking would do nothing, lets not kid ourselves. Toddlers put things in their mouths, dont wash their hands, share toys, etc.  

This is craziness, there is no scientific reason for children to wear mask unless you want to eliminate all risk from their lives, in which case their lives would suck because theyd never leave their house

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

My toddler is at virtually no risk for COVID, same as your child.  Dont take my word for it, look for yourself. 

But my son is learning to talk and is developing emotionally, he needs to see faces and learn how to read nonverbal communication.  Nevermind the psychological damage it would do to him to be afraid of breathing air for god's sake.

Also, I cant even imagine the amount of bacteria and filth that my toddler would get on that mask and then breathe in. 

And his immune system also needs to develop.  Kids should be playing in the dirt like you and I did when we were kids.

Masking children is against science.  Period. 

This is both true and false, the cloth masks are a sideshow, the masks that work would not be comfortable all day for a child or anyone

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Hes in daycare. He just got RSV 2 weeks ago.  He gets sick every other week.

Masking would do nothing, lets not kid ourselves. Toddlers put things in their mouths, dont wash their hands, share toys, etc.  

This is craziness, there is no scientific reason for children to wear mask unless you want to eliminate all risk from their lives, in which case their lives would suck because theyd never leave their house

Yeah, of course there's a scientific reason for kids to wear a mask.  They help stop the transmission of the disease.

Now, with a toddler, I agree, it's a losing battle.  But it certainly isn't going to hurt them to try.  And with my kids, 5 and 10, it works well.  They're good about keeping it on all day.  Is it foolproof?  Of course not.  But it would be crazy not to do what you can to protect them until a vaccine is approved for their age, especially for some weird, unrelated political dogma.

2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

This is both true and false, the cloth masks are a sideshow, the masks that work would not be comfortable all day for a child or anyone

Its not about comfort.  Do you have toddlers wear a mask during flu season?

If not, there is no reason to wear one for COVID.

51 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

One of my accounts is vanguard vtivx

Good luck 

Perfect, thank you.

So from when Obama was elected until when Trump was elected, vtivx saw an increase of ~99%. Meaning just under 50% per term.

From Trump to Biden's election, vtivx saw an increase of ~40%.

From Biden's election until present day, vtivx is up 27%.

Now please explain how your 401k was flat during the terms of growth where your fund's share price increased 50% per term, but exploded during Trump's term when it grew only 40%? 

And for bonus points, tell me how much Sleepy Joe is tucking away in your coat pocket in less than a year's time while shooting you with his finger guns and licking his ice cream cone.

 

 

 

 

33 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Your children are at virtually no risk at all from COVID

Our Trumptard anti-science neighbor behind us thought this too...

18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Masking children is against science.  Period. 

You are ignorant and reckless beyond words. 

10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

300 out of what, 10 million?

Polio cases were like 13 per 100k, and Jonas Salk got the presidential medal of freedom.

I guess you would have been wondering what all the fuss was about then too.

11 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Yeah, of course there's a scientific reason for kids to wear a mask.  They help stop the transmission of the disease.

Now, with a toddler, I agree, it's a losing battle.  But it certainly isn't going to hurt them to try.  And with my kids, 5 and 10, it works well.  They're good about keeping it on all day.  Is it foolproof?  Of course not.  But it would be crazy not to do what you can to protect them until a vaccine is approved for their age, especially for some weird, unrelated political dogma.

^ This

16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Its not about comfort.  Do you have toddlers wear a mask during flu season?

If not, there is no reason to wear one for COVID.

Yea this might make sense, except for the fact we have a pediatric vaccine for the flu, and decades of data on the pathology of disease caused by the flu vs just over a year's worth for a novel pathogen that's already proven to cause systemic damage and can result in long-term systems. But yeah other than that, excellent point, Mike! 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

Yeah, of course there's a scientific reason for kids to wear a mask.  They help stop the transmission of the disease.

Now, with a toddler, I agree, it's a losing battle.  But it certainly isn't going to hurt them to try.  And with my kids, 5 and 10, it works well.  They're good about keeping it on all day.  Is it foolproof?  Of course not.  But it would be crazy not to do what you can to protect them until a vaccine is approved for their age, especially for some weird, unrelated political dogma.

One of my wife's good friends has a 4 year old who is basically neurotic from this stuff, its sad.  Thats what I worry about.  I hope your kids understand and "get it"

But aside from all the politics, I am pessimistic about all this.  Im not sure theres much we can do as a society to stop COVID from spreading.  We basically locked down for a long time and it didn't work. I fear that the cure is more painful than the disease.  Life is so short.  That's just my opinion.

11 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Our Trumptard anti-science neighbor behind us thought this too...

Good point

Oh wait you didnt make one.  Nice!

11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Polio cases were like 13 per 100k, and Jonas Salk got the presidential medal of freedom.

I guess you would have been wondering what all the fuss was about then too.

Yes this is like polio. 

???

8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yea this might make sense, except for the fact we have a pediatric vaccine for the flu, and decades of data on the pathology of disease caused by the flu vs just over a year's worth for a novel pathogen that's already proven to cause systemic damage and can result in long-term systems. But yeah other than that, excellent point, Mike! 

Pretty sure you have kids

When they were toddlers, did you have them get the flu shot? If not, did you make them wear masks?

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Good point

Oh wait you didnt make one.  Nice!

Yes this is like polio. 

???

Two laughable wiffs. Like... the ball was in the glove before you even started the swing. 

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

One of my wife's good friends has a 4 year old who is basically neurotic from this stuff, its sad.  Thats what I worry about.  I hope your kids understand and "get it"

But aside from all the politics, I am pessimistic about all this.  Im not sure theres much we can do as a society to stop COVID from spreading.  We basically locked down for a long time and it didn't work. I fear that the cure is more painful than the disease.  Life is so short.  That's just my opinion.

My kids are fine with it.  They honestly never even mention it.

There have been several things we could have done to prevent it from spreading but people haven't done them.  We all could have gotten vaccinated through the spring and early summer and this wave would've been much smaller.  

And life being short is one thing, but life being 5 or 10 years long is something else entirely.  I'll do anything to protect my kids and having them wear a mask for a few months until they can get the jab is unbelievably insignificant in the scheme of things.

Just now, mayanh8 said:

Two laughable wiffs. Like... the ball was in the glove before you even started the swing. 

Youve made like 3 posts and have said nothing

Bringin up polio is irrelevant to this discussion.  No one can argue my statement about COVID being virtually no risk to children

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Pretty sure you have kids

When they were toddlers, did you have them get the flu shot? If not, did you make them wear masks?

Yes, absolutely. And while I'd go a few years in between getting the flu shot in my early 20's, I haven't missed a year since my wife was pregnant with our oldest. The flu is a risk to kids that should be taken seriously, but so is covid, and more so because of the unknowns regarding disease and lack of a vaccine.