Bwestbrook36 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I’ve taken my fair share of shots at Howie, but I have to say so far so good this season. Multiple rookies contributing in a game is a big win. It’s something we haven’t seen enough of. Howie’s 2021 has been very solid so far. Selmou has quietly become one of our best lineman too. There was a lot of good things yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, Bwestbrook36 said: Selmou has quietly become one of our best lineman too. There was a lot of good things yesterday. My gosh some of those hole between him and Mialata were just huge. A lot of Howie’s picks played well on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauserbob Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I'm in wait and see mode on Howie for this year. Been a harsh critic of his the past couple years, but going by yesterday he may have bought himself a return to favor...at least, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Selmou has quietly become one of our best lineman too. There was a lot of good things yesterday. Seumalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said: Seumalo? I spelled it wrong every chance I got cause I was to lazy to look at the correct spelling. Lol he's still pretty good tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I spelled it wrong every chance I got cause I was to lazy to look at the correct spelling. Lol he's still pretty good tho I understood you. 😂🤣😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I understood you. 😂🤣😂 Like I told you last night this autocorrect has gone off the rails I have to go back and correct almost every single word it's frustrating. I'm going to turn it off soon or chuck it out the effing window lol. Do you know how many times I would have had to respell Isaacs last name to get it to go through? It's BS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Like I told you last night this autocorrect has gone off the rails I have to go back and correct almost every single word it's frustrating. I'm going to turn it off soon or chuck it out the effing window lol. Do you know how many times I would have had to respell Isaacs last name to get it to go through? It's BS! My iPad does it too. It’s all good. Let the grammar police have their fun. 😂🤣😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, flyerdog said: right, but in terms of actual talent that they pick...This is why they need to do better drafting on the defensive side... They don't seem to invest as much draft capital in defense. IIRC, the last #1 pick used on the defensive side was for Derek Barnett. From where I'm sitting, 2017 alone makes that pick a success with his strip sack against Minn. and recovering that fumble at the end of SB. That fumble could have easily gone to NE if he didn't snatch it cleanly out of the air on the bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerdog Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Procus said: They don't seem to invest as much draft capital in defense. IIRC, the last #1 pick used on the defensive side was for Derek Barnett. From where I'm sitting, 2017 alone makes that pick a success with his strip sack against Minn. and recovering that fumble at the end of SB. That fumble could have easily gone to NE if he didn't snatch it cleanly out of the air on the bounce. true...that essentially sealed the game..but it was Graham that jarred the ball loose since 2010 they have drafted 51 players on defense...the standouts being Cox, Barnett, and Curry...and some other notables like Jordan Hicks and Mychal Kendricks..but the rest are either out of the league or role players on other teams.....but again I think a lot of it has to do with their draft process....how many players on defense have we drafted that were "Projects", "high motor", "tremendous upside", or even "a bit of a reach"..we seem to hear this a lot with their defensive picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Procus said: They don't seem to invest as much draft capital in defense. IIRC, the last #1 pick used on the defensive side was for Derek Barnett. From where I'm sitting, 2017 alone makes that pick a success with his strip sack against Minn. and recovering that fumble at the end of SB. That fumble could have easily gone to NE if he didn't snatch it cleanly out of the air on the bounce. Barnett is a decent player. But the rest of the 2017 draft was a disaster, no one is left from it. They haven't drafted a truly good player in the secondary in almost 20 years. They are historically bad at drafting LBs. The best defensive players they've had are Cox (Reid draft pick) and free agents they've had to sign or guys they traded for because they're so bad at drafting defense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, NOTW said: Barnett is a decent player. But the rest of the 2017 draft was a disaster, no one is left from it. They haven't drafted a truly good player in the secondary in almost 20 years. They are historically bad at drafting LBs. The best defensive players they've had are Cox (Reid draft pick) and free agents they've had to sign or guys they traded for because they're so bad at drafting defense. Seems to me they are hiring great defensive coordinators or on the rise defensive coordinators to mask the lack of quality picks and unwillingness to put the resources into defense other then projects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Seems to me they are hiring great defensive coordinators or on the rise defensive coordinators to mask the lack of quality picks and unwillingness to put the resources into defense other then projects Lurie emphasizes offense too so it may be what he wants. It's true that it's an offense driven league, but you still need some talent on defense. They have relied on free agency and trades for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, NOTW said: Barnett is a decent player. But the rest of the 2017 draft was a disaster, no one is left from it. They haven't drafted a truly good player in the secondary in almost 20 years. They are historically bad at drafting LBs. The best defensive players they've had are Cox (Reid draft pick) and free agents they've had to sign or guys they traded for because they're so bad at drafting defense. Well except for Barnett, did we even draft a player the first two days in the draft recently? Williams this year, and he looks good so far (despite all the drama).. If you only draft defense on day three, projects is what you get.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Seems to me they are hiring great defensive coordinators or on the rise defensive coordinators to mask the lack of quality picks and unwillingness to put the resources into defense other then projects Draft offense, sign vets to the defense is obviously the plan. I don’t mind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Selmou has quietly become one of our best lineman too. There was a lot of good things yesterday. What's sick is if the line stays healthy and Dickerson is activated, can you imagine the max protect line with Dickerson added as an extra blocker instead of a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Procus said: What's sick is if the line stays healthy and Dickerson is activated, can you imagine the max protect line with Dickerson added as an extra blocker instead of a TE. Any chance we can let the kid dress before we anoint him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, Infam said: Well except for Barnett, did we even draft a player the first two days in the draft recently? Williams this year, and he looks good so far (despite all the drama).. If you only draft defense on day three, projects is what you get.. In the same Barnett draft - 2017 - they drafted injured soft project Sydney Jones in the 2nd, and Rasul Douglas in the 3rd. The only other pick was last year, 3rd round, Davion Taylor. You'd have to go back to the draft Chip Kelly ran in 2015 for defensive picks: 2nd round Eric Rowe corner, 3rd round Jordan Hicks LB It seems Lurie and Howie prefer offense high, defense middle and projects/linemen late. And just sign FA or trade for proven defensive players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, NOTW said: In the same Barnett draft - 2017 - they drafted injured soft project Sydney Jones in the 2nd, and Rasul Douglas in the 3rd. The only other pick was last year, 3rd round, Davion Taylor. You'd have to go back to the draft Chip Kelly ran in 2015 for defensive picks: 2nd round Eric Rowe corner, 3rd round Jordan Hicks LB It seems Lurie and Howie prefer offense high, defense middle and projects/linemen late. And just sign FA or trade for proven defensive players. Oh god sure, Sidney Jones. I hated this pick so much my mind doesn’t allow me to think of him. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eglz1 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Like I told you last night this autocorrect has gone off the rails I have to go back and correct almost every single word it's frustrating. I'm going to turn it off soon or chuck it out the effing window lol. Do you know how many times I would have had to respell Isaacs last name to get it to go through? It's BS! I haven't used anything from Apple but could you add names and words that are most problematic to the dictionary? I've had to do that with some words that are industry specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, eglz1 said: I haven't used anything from Apple but could you add names and words that are most problematic to the dictionary? I've had to do that with some words that are industry specific. I'm using the Google Pixel 5 it used to be pretty intuitive too the words I used but, now it just changes anything. It's diving me nuts! It changes *there* and *their* all the time. Like simple everyday words. It's been since my last update and the pixel gets the updates first from Android since most Android phones are run by chrome os. Even before I would put one wrong letter in a word and it would change it to the word that makes the most sense to what I was trying to spell and now it's not even doing that it changes it to the most random sheet ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerdog Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 hours ago, NOTW said: Lurie emphasizes offense too so it may be what he wants. It's true that it's an offense driven league, but you still need some talent on defense. They have relied on free agency and trades for that. yes..and it's not JUST talent or football skill..remember the impact Dawkins or Trotter, or Troy Vincent had on the defenses they played with...their personality and leadership also boosted the play around them...kept everything under control..maybe guys like Trent Cole and Derrick Burgess made them think that, no matter what, they could find steals in later rounds in every draft... I know they always say that they draft "value" regardless of position..but there ARE times when a low hanging fruit is there for the taking...yet they don't reach for that fruit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBhunter58 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 keep on kickin that can Howie https://www.nj.com/eagles/2021/09/eagles-open-up-huge-chunk-of-cap-space-by-restructuring-fletcher-coxs-contract-heres-what-it-means.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, flyerdog said: yes..and it's not JUST talent or football skill..remember the impact Dawkins or Trotter, or Troy Vincent had on the defenses they played with...their personality and leadership also boosted the play around them...kept everything under control..maybe guys like Trent Cole and Derrick Burgess made them think that, no matter what, they could find steals in later rounds in every draft... I know they always say that they draft "value" regardless of position..but there ARE times when a low hanging fruit is there for the taking...yet they don't reach for that fruit... Think about the leaders on defense. Graham and Cox, Reid picks from before Howie was doing the drafting. The other recent leader was Malcolm Jenkins a free agent. When BG and Cox are gone they're left with...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBhunter58 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, NOTW said: Think about the leaders on defense. Graham and Cox, Reid picks from before Howie was doing the drafting. The other recent leader was Malcolm Jenkins a free agent. When BG and Cox are gone they're left with...? They need an alpha linebacker... because even the bench options for 'defensive leader' are older (Mcleod, Slay). If k'von was a better player he could be the guy, he has that mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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