Ryan Kerrigan Signs With Eagles

[CaliEagle]

A good depth move. But, we still have to find a way to get another CB or two. Seymour and Jacquet aren't going to get it done.  Howie is going to have to find a way to clear more cap space to get a CB in here.

[pgcd3]

23 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

A good depth move. But, we still have to find a way to get another CB or two. Seymour and Jacquet aren't going to get it done.  Howie is going to have to find a way to clear more cap space to get a CB in here.

There's space clearing after June 1st and these 1-yr deals all have very small hits because they add voidable years

[OCEaglefan]

53 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Zero clue - but everyone was saying how come we got Robey-Coleman so cheap last year and nobody else wanted to sign him and that worked out just fine.

😨

Oh good, I feel much better now 

[vaff]

4 hours ago, downundermike said:

That has been the mantra for years, and our corners continue to be exposed.

Except it did win us a super bowl. 

[Mr_Philly]

I like the signing especially if he has some juice left in the tank.

[kiwieagle]

Love the player, but do question the fit on a rebuilding team plus use of cap vs other glaring needs (cb) or pushing it into next year.

Should be a solid rotational piece for us though, and hard to wonder if they want to keep option of flipping Barnett at deadline open

[kiwieagle]

2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

There's space clearing after June 1st and these 1-yr deals all have very small hits because they add voidable years

Yes for this years cap but you are taking money out of future years cap to do that. Any unused cap gets pushed into next year too. 

Just makes sense to me to not do that in a rebuilding year, and then go big on adding talent when you have a young core set

[Dwide Schrude]

Great signing, Howie has killed it this offseason. 
 

I didn’t think it was possible back in December but I’m actually getting excited for this season. 

[pgcd3]

44 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

Yes for this years cap but you are taking money out of future years cap to do that. Any unused cap gets pushed into next year too. 

Just makes sense to me to not do that in a rebuilding year, and then go big on adding talent when you have a young core set

Even with some of the can kicking to next year the cap is expected to jump a lot and the Eagles will have no big QB hit so they'll be able to do anything they want cap wise after this year

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Even with some of the can kicking to next year the cap is expected to jump a lot and the Eagles will have no big QB hit so they'll be able to do anything they want cap wise after this year

The cap is projected to be 203 to 205 million next year.  The big jump is projected for 2023, to approx 225 million.

All the future cap discussions you have seen on the board the last couple of months are based on those projections. 

[kiwieagle]

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

Even with some of the can kicking to next year the cap is expected to jump a lot and the Eagles will have no big QB hit so they'll be able to do anything they want cap wise after this year

Yes cap will jump but if we keep kicking more money down the road and other teams don’t - we are still at a disadvantage. Market salaries will go up as cap jumps or Hurts fails, and we want to add a big salary QB then it limits our ability to put a more talented around him.

We’ve already had to kick Alshon and Malik’s hits primarily to next year. It’s a zero sum game. You can freely move money around between years using various tricks but sometime or another it hits the cap.

[Traveler Vic]

Great Signing. All the sacks we will avoid, and all the sacks he may add. I love it. Now we need A CB Signed and we are Goodsky.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

Yesss!

 

dude has fed us up a many time 

[pgcd3]

39 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

Yes cap will jump but if we keep kicking more money down the road and other teams don’t - we are still at a disadvantage. Market salaries will go up as cap jumps or Hurts fails, and we want to add a big salary QB then it limits our ability to put a more talented around him.

We’ve already had to kick Alshon and Malik’s hits primarily to next year. It’s a zero sum game. You can freely move money around between years using various tricks but sometime or another it hits the cap.

I wouldn't worry about it. The cap is mostly irrelevant except when your QB walks away and leaves you a 35mil hit otherwise teams all just keep pushing and signing who they want. It's very rarely an issue

[hoosierdaddy]

11 hours ago, Kz! said:

This is worth it just to avoid the 6 sacks he hits us with every season. 

lol my thoughts exactly!!!

[eggs]

7 hours ago, CaliEagle said:

A good depth move. But, we still have to find a way to get another CB or two. Seymour and Jacquet aren't going to get it done.  Howie is going to have to find a way to clear more cap space to get a CB in here.

I’m thinking we’ll sign one of the veteran cbs, but jacquet will actually compete. When coached he could be like the mailata of dbs. 

[Talonblood]

I have to say this 1st- another old a** player. But... not a bad signing for some depth. Low risk, so... alrighty then.

[EagleMatt]

Hes smashed our qb every time we faced him. Glad not anymore.

[UK_EaglesFan89]

57 minutes ago, EagleMatt said:

Hes smashed our qb every time we faced him. Glad not anymore.

Yeah at least we don't have to worry about that anymore. Did he get any sacks against us last year?

[Infam]

8 hours ago, downundermike said:

The cap is projected to be 203 to 205 million next year.  The big jump is projected for 2023, to approx 225 million.

All the future cap discussions you have seen on the board the last couple of months are based on those projections. 

Oh noes that would be a problem...

... if the Eagles were not allowed to push cap next year to 2023 again.

Total non-issue like I said all along.

[Cochis_Calhoun]

11 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Even with some of the can kicking to next year the cap is expected to jump a lot and the Eagles will have no big QB hit so they'll be able to do anything they want cap wise after this year

We're currently 19th in terms of cap space against next years projected cap, we have a shade over $16.5million left even with no big QB contract eating cap and less than 50 players under contract, if we sign players on vet minimum to get the roster up to the 51 required for cap calculations that number drops to $13million free space, Barnett and or Sweat are going to eat half of that with an extension.

The cap is still an issue and next year there's no more low hanging fruit to cut or trade.

[MillerTime]

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

We're currently 19th in terms of cap space against next years projected cap, we have a shade over $16.5million left even with no big QB contract eating cap and less than 50 players under contract, if we sign players on vet minimum to get the roster up to the 51 required for cap calculations that number drops to $13million free space, Barnett and or Sweat are going to eat half of that with an extension.

The cap is still an issue and next year there's no more low hanging fruit to cut or trade.

Not totally true. We can cut/trade Cox and save a little over 10 million next year. Brooks and Slay save 4 million next year each. Kelce retires. Also after June 1st we can save another 7 millions with Johnson. That’a 25 million without kicking the can. We take some cap hits for next year but we can sign a few people, have a bunch of draft picks, and our cap issue for 2023 on will be fixed. It’s not that big of an issue.

[time2rock]

28 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Not totally true. We can cut/trade Cox and save a little over 10 million next year. Brooks and Slay save 4 million next year each. Kelce retires. Also after June 1st we can save another 7 millions with Johnson. That’a 25 million without kicking the can. We take some cap hits for next year but we can sign a few people, have a bunch of draft picks, and our cap issue for 2023 on will be fixed. It’s not that big of an issue.

You may save $4M (for each) if you cut Slay and Brooks but then you also collectively have $33.3M in dead money against the cap.  And if you cut Johnson using a post June 1 designation you reduce the 2022 dead cap hit from $28M to $14M but that only deflects $14M in dead money to the 2023 cap (so you do in fact kick the can down the road).  

[Cochis_Calhoun]

2 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Not totally true. We can cut/trade Cox and save a little over 10 million next year. Brooks and Slay save 4 million next year each. Kelce retires. Also after June 1st we can save another 7 millions with Johnson. That’a 25 million without kicking the can. We take some cap hits for next year but we can sign a few people, have a bunch of draft picks, and our cap issue for 2023 on will be fixed. It’s not that big of an issue.

The only numbers I can find for Johnson is cutting him after June 1st saves us $150k for 2022 but moves $13million dollars dead cap back to 2023 meaning he's cost $28million dollars to not play for us for 2 years.

Cox would involve eating $13million dollars of dead money either all next year or over 2, the savings would be substantial but unless he drops off significantly so would be the hole in our defensive line and locker room.

Kelce's current contract is basically designed for the Eagles to release him as a June 1st cut next year and avoid all his dummy years guaranteed signing bonus being payable next year, if I had money, that's what I'd bet on.

You know, this stuff about the cap isn't just moaning, we are mathematically by far the worst team in the league for having money tied up in future void years and we rank second in the NFL for cap money spent on pro rated bonuses beyond this year, which suggests someone is worse but the kicker is we don't currently have a big money Vet QB on the books, the financial side of the roster management is not well done and people on here and beyond were pointing out it was a time bomb waiting to go off before the pandemic hit, the pandemic merely blew Howie's bomb up early, Howie designed and planted the bomb all by himself, the reckoning was always coming.

[MillerTime]

7 minutes ago, time2rock said:

You may save $4M (for each) if you cut Slay and Brooks but then you also collectively have $33.3M in dead money against the cap.  And if you cut Johnson using a post June 1 designation you reduce the 2022 dead cap hit from $28M to $14M but that only deflects $14M in dead money to the 2023 cap (so you do in fact kick the can down the road).  

They will take those cap hits. It also frees up a lot of money in 2023 by cutting/trading those players to take Johnson’s dead money. We also won’t be kicking money into 2024/2025 and will have money to spend next year.