9 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

they'll certainly try to trade him. i just wonder what kind of longer contracts they'll have to take back to get a team to take him. 

I'd even take Westbrook for him. 

when a coach has so many examples of teams that have rarely finished and failed close out tons of games/series, it becomes a culture. 

 

 

and for the love of all, STOP CALLING HIM DOC !!!!!!!!!

30 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

they'll certainly try to trade him. i just wonder what kind of longer contracts they'll have to take back to get a team to take him. 

With Harden walking, the ideal reason to trade Harris is to create cap space. Otherwise we cant really replace harden because there is no money.

Normally we would give draft picks for a team to take a salary but we dont really have any of those either. And Harris isnt some massive multi-year salary dump anyway. Hes an expiring contract. Thats attractive to some teams.

The other team benefits from a large expiring deal as well.

The win/win scenario that should play out in this type of deal is a team that hasnt been able to contend with its star/s wants to blow it up. They send you a USEFUL contract/player when they decide its just not working there. They receive a large expiring conract thatll free up cap space for them sooner.

Someone matching that scenario is probably someone like Lillard. That may be aiming a little high, but something along those lines. Highly paid but still good player were a team decides they just want to blow it up. Not necessarily a bad contract. Thats completely the opposite of what the 6ers will be looking for. They can probably do better than Harris for Lillard, but maybe someone like Simons is more realistic. Look for teams like Portland with decent players on long term deals.

Hawks want off that John Collins contract since the day they signed it.  Now if only had another asset for inconsistent De'Andre Hunter. 

San Antonio actually has some space, so they dont have to match. But if they arent ready to start committing big money to players yet, they could send us smaller deals like a Vassell and Graham.

They show as having 22M in space right now.

For this year only, they dont have cap anymore after taking on Harris' salary. But then they clear his 37M, plus Graham's 11.6M plus Vassel's 4.4 million. Now they have 50M heading in to next summer where the free agent class should be much better than this summers.

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

Hawks want off that John Collins contract since the day they signed it.  Now if only had another asset for inconsistent De'Andre Hunter. 

Yeah. Hawks are one to look at too. And Morey probably will go for the bigger name even though that John Collins contract shouldnt be what we are looking for. Thats a large salary dump for them. Unless they want to send us picks I wouldnt be doing that kind of deal.

 

i mean yeah...there are some possibilities. but you're only unloading tobi for another team's problem with a longer contract. i'd still do it & hope the guy you get has some dog in him & is a better fit...but i'm keeping my expectations low.   

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

i mean yeah...there are some possibilities. but you're only unloading tobi for another team's problem with a longer contract. i'd still do it & hope the guy you get has some dog in him & is a better fit...but i'm keeping my expectations low.   

I dont think the player necessarily has to be a problem. It can be a good player but the team just decides its ready to begin clearing cap and start over. 

Or, a team like San Antonio who isnt good enough yet to start dishing out the money and losing cap space to younger players like Vassell before theyve had a chance to get any stars in place.

Find the few teams with cap space and look for young players with maybe just 2 years left where the team might decide the timing isnt right to extend them long term. Thatll be your best combination- young, talented, cheap contract not eating much in to our potential cap space that a Harris trade and Harden walk will create.

9 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This seems good before game 7 

I'm glad he told Glenn to stick it. Glenn doesn't call players for the right players, then BLAMES THE PLAYERS to save his own arse. 

53 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

when a coach has so many examples of teams that have rarely finished and failed close out tons of games/series, it becomes a culture. 

 

 

and for the love of all, STOP CALLING HIM DOC !!!!!!!!!

If you noticed, I NEVER call him that- I call him Glen or Glenny Boy. There is only ONE Doc in this town, and that is Dr. J.

The most disappointing thing for me is... THIS was the time, this was it, this was finally the path to the finals. If they win game 7, it's still alive. But to watch them let THE golden opportunity- in front of the home crowd, go down the drain.... I mean my stomach hurt. Now, there is finger pointing going on by Glenn, Harden and Embiid. Embiid was pissed and suggested Harden stopped playing team ball and was playing "for himself." Glen said there was lack of trust and Harded said there wasn't. With a game 7 on the line, they are now bickering at each other, instead of unifying. Maybe Embiid gets pissed enough to beat Boston himself. Who knows, but now is not the time fo be fighting each other. Harden is going to leave after this this is all said and done. He feels HE is being made the scape goat.

We need the basketball god's mercy. 

Doc Rivers last 9 games to make it to the Conference Finals:

2015 Game 5 — Loss
2015 Game 6 — Loss
2015 Game 7 — Loss
2017 Game 7 — Loss
2020 Game 5 — Loss
2020 Game 6 — Loss
2020 Game 7 — Loss
2021 Game 7 — Loss
2023 Game 6 — Loss

Why is he the 76ers coach again?

16 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

We need the basketball god's mercy. 

Doc Rivers last 9 games to make it to the Conference Finals:

2015 Game 5 — Loss
2015 Game 6 — Loss
2015 Game 7 — Loss
2017 Game 7 — Loss
2020 Game 5 — Loss
2020 Game 6 — Loss
2020 Game 7 — Loss
2021 Game 7 — Loss
2023 Game 6 — Loss

Why is he the 76ers coach again?

because an experienced, respected head coach can unlock ben simmons!

 

28 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

because an experienced, respected head coach can unlock ben simmons!

 

i mean, he does have some extended experience when you think about it. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont think the player necessarily has to be a problem. It can be a good player but the team just decides its ready to begin clearing cap and start over. 

Or, a team like San Antonio who isnt good enough yet to start dishing out the money and losing cap space to younger players like Vassell before theyve had a chance to get any stars in place.

Find the few teams with cap space and look for young players with maybe just 2 years left where the team might decide the timing isnt right to extend them long term. Thatll be your best combination- young, talented, cheap contract not eating much in to our potential cap space that a Harris trade and Harden walk will create.

Aren't a ton of bad contracts in the league now that will match Harris 39 million 

Vassell is only 22 and on a rookie deal who shoot 38.7% from 3. Spurs will give him the rookie extension when he is eligible. He is a good piece to build around. 

 

You could do a sign and trade of Harden to Rockets, Harris to Bulls, LaVine to Sixers if Bulls want to blow it up. Rockets don't need to do a sign and trade and the owner hates Morey so doubt he helps him out. 

49 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Aren't a ton of bad contracts in the league now that will match Harris 39 million 

Vassell is only 22 and on a rookie deal who shoot 38.7% from 3. Spurs will give him the rookie extension when he is eligible. He is a good piece to build around. 

 

You could do a sign and trade of Harden to Rockets, Harris to Bulls, LaVine to Sixers if Bulls want to blow it up. Rockets don't need to do a sign and trade and the owner hates Morey so doubt he helps him out. 

Remember when the 6ers processed they had to let go of some young talents because they wanted to maintain cap space for when they could eventually go star hunting. You lock up Vassell now, and Sochan later, next thing you know, theyre your building blocks and you dont have enough space to bring in max players to take you over the hump.

They may opt to do that. But thats the kind of move that sticks you in pergatry forever.

If theyre set on doing it wrong, find a team who is doing it right and get their young players. There are other teams who semi-process like the 6ers did. Those opportunities should exist, somewhere. And a team under the cap does not have to match. 

 

I think a Harden sign and trade is highly unlikely considering he is set to become an un-restricted free agent. I dont think the Rockets help us out by entering in to those discussions, and I dont think it benefits Harden either, to weaken the team he is going to by making them send us players or picks. Most likely scenario, he walks and we get nothing for it. And have no cap space to replace him with anyone. Which is why a Harris trade will become necessary.

3 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

when a coach has so many examples of teams that have rarely finished and failed close out tons of games/series, it becomes a culture. 

 

 

and for the love of all, STOP CALLING HIM DOC !!!!!!!!!

Well, the filters block a*****e and dumb ****k

17 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Well, the filters block a*****e and dumb ****k

touche' 

Considering Harden, after game 6, Embiid and Glenny boy be like....

So on Harris and teams willing to take him this offseason there’s a couple. 

Wizards— porzingis is an expiring contract. I think the wizards would love to take on Harris contract for a year and clear 38 mil and 36 mil with porzingis. Means in summer of 2024 they’d have a boatload of cap space to spend. Frankly wizard aren’t going anywhere with the roster they have so beal, Harris and porzingis is likely where they are if they go forward with current roster. Ways to make it work in the trade machine. 

Spurs— HE touched on. 

hawks— also touched on 

bulls— interesting as they might blow it up

raptors— could be part of a bigger 3 or 4 way deal 

Mavs— i could see them getting involved in it especially if kyrie leaves 

Utah— less likely cause sixers don’t really have a bunch of future draft picks. But i think ainge is gonna tank harder in 2023-24. So likely could deal harris and picks to get some guys they have. But don’t really have them so it’s far less likely. 
 

I 100% believe game 7 will be a 2 point sixers lead with 8 seconds left. Tatum will drive and dish it out to horford who’s wide open for a 3 and drains it at the buzzer 

5 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Remember when the 6ers processed they had to let go of some young talents because they wanted to maintain cap space for when they could eventually go star hunting. You lock up Vassell now, and Sochan later, next thing you know, theyre your building blocks and you dont have enough space to bring in max players to take you over the hump.

They may opt to do that. But thats the kind of move that sticks you in pergatry forever.

If theyre set on doing it wrong, find a team who is doing it right and get their young players. There are other teams who semi-process like the 6ers did. Those opportunities should exist, somewhere. And a team under the cap does not have to match. 

 

I think a Harden sign and trade is highly unlikely considering he is set to become an un-restricted free agent. I dont think the Rockets help us out by entering in to those discussions, and I dont think it benefits Harden either, to weaken the team he is going to by making them send us players or picks. Most likely scenario, he walks and we get nothing for it. And have no cap space to replace him with anyone. Which is why a Harris trade will become necessary.

Giving a guy 5/110 isn't locking you into anything, if anything it is giving you tradable contracts at 22 million a year. With the salary cap about to explode the numbers will be easily tradable. 

The Spurs aren't giving away assets for an expiring when players already don't see the Spurs as a destination franchise, Wemby could change that. 

Harris will end up being traded for a guy on a longer contract where the player is unhappy ala LaVine/Collins

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So on Harris and teams willing to take him this offseason there’s a couple. 

Wizards— porzingis is an expiring contract. I think the wizards would love to take on Harris contract for a year and clear 38 mil and 36 mil with porzingis. Means in summer of 2024 they’d have a boatload of cap space to spend. Frankly wizard aren’t going anywhere with the roster they have so beal, Harris and porzingis is likely where they are if they go forward with current roster. Ways to make it work in the trade machine. 

Spurs— HE touched on. 

hawks— also touched on 

bulls— interesting as they might blow it up

raptors— could be part of a bigger 3 or 4 way deal 

Mavs— i could see them getting involved in it especially if kyrie leaves 

Utah— less likely cause sixers don’t really have a bunch of future draft picks. But i think ainge is gonna tank harder in 2023-24. So likely could deal harris and picks to get some guys they have. But don’t really have them so it’s far less likely. 
 

Wizards are the worst franchise in the NBA and already talks of them resigning Kuzma and Porz

Mavs- who do they have to trade? You want Hardaway? Finney Smith was their only asset and they gave him to the Nets

Jazz - you want Sexton back? 

The NBA doesn't have as many terrible contracts right now. I bet Morey would hang on to him until the trade deadline and hope for a disgruntled player. What are the Blazers doing? You want a sign and trade with Grant for Harris? That might be as good as you can get for Harris.

3 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Giving a guy 5/110 isn't locking you into anything, if anything it is giving you tradable contracts at 22 million a year. With the salary cap about to explode the numbers will be easily tradable. 

The Spurs aren't giving away assets for an expiring when players already don't see the Spurs as a destination franchise, Wemby could change that. 

Harris will end up being traded for a guy on a longer contract where the player is unhappy ala LaVine/Collins

I’d take Lavine and be happy with that deal. If they get harden back you can win with Lavine and maxey being the no. 2-3 scorers and harden doesn’t have to be relied as much as a scorer. 

23 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Wizards are the worst franchise in the NBA and already talks of them resigning Kuzma and Porz

Mavs- who do they have to trade? You want Hardaway? Finney Smith was their only asset and they gave him to the Nets

Jazz - you want Sexton back? 

The NBA doesn't have as many terrible contracts right now. I bet Morey would hang on to him until the trade deadline and hope for a disgruntled player. What are the Blazers doing? You want a sign and trade with Grant for Harris? That might be as good as you can get for Harris.

Even more if a reason why i could see the wizards making a stupid move. Granted if keeping kuzma not much there to get that helps you. 

I think the mavs you look for role players. likely would be hardaway and bullock which works. It’s not great but i could see Dallas doing so. Probably gonna make you take Bertāns in that trade  

If i were sixers going to utah I’m going after markkanen. but like i said we don’t have draft picks/assets to get that deal done. I could see ainge taking tobias back to clear cap in 2024 , getting first round picks and also dealing markkanen. Markkanen is likely walking away from utah in 2 years. So i see ainge unloading him in the next 2 years as they aren’t gonna be good, accumulate more assets and i can tell you he will leave utah (pretty damn good source like i said for years with Chicago. If it’s a former Arizona player i usually get pretty good info). That said sixers don’t have the requisite assets to get it done. Hence the whole they don’t have those firsts and assets to get it done so far less likely  

want a wild idea, mavs find out kyrie leaving. I think they’d do a sign and trade for Harris and use Harris expiring contract or clear space for 2024. That said want no part of kyrie or that type of contract with him. And it definitely means harden is gone.