If anyone is interested in really getting kicked in the balls the Super Bowl is airing on nfl network right now 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think you can win with a big as a franchise player…it just doesn’t help when he’s consistently not close to his MVP form come playoff time.

Embiid has been a top 1-2 player in the nba for 3-4 years now.  He’s never been a top 5 player in the playoffs.

He hasn't happened in this era and Jokic nor Giannis are not traditional bigs like Embiid. 

17 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Nets did it as well they just weren't as good. 

Yep. It’s why I said in the first round if doc’s strategy is we’re just gonna have guys hit shots and that’s gonna beat it then you’re likely gonna lose deeper in the playoffs. Cause you have to figure a way to get your star player better looks and easier touches around the basket so that he could be the star player that he is. It was a losing strategy in the first round but it just so happens nets don’t have the horses to completely carry it out like a team like the Celtics do. 

Granted embiid is to blame for his poor performance as well. He can’t show up looking like James harden in a must win or go home games. 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yep. It’s why I said in the first round if doc’s strategy is we’re just gonna have guys hit shots and that’s gonna beat it then you’re likely gonna lose deeper in the playoffs. Cause you have to figure a way to get your star player better looks and easier touches around the basket so that he could be the star player that he is. It was a losing strategy in the first round but it just so happens nets don’t have the horses to completely carry it out like a team like the Celtics do. 

Granted embiid is to blame for his poor performance as well. He can’t show up looking like James harden in a must win or go home games. 

Players have to hit buckets at some point. We always hear it's a players league and Embiid had two points this half and shot 3 3 pointers. 

Embiid has the killer instinct when team is up and he goes for the MVP but damn this dude sulks around so much. 

9 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Players have to hit buckets at some point. We always hear it's a players league and Embiid had two points this half and shot 3 3 pointers. 

Embiid has the killer instinct when team is up and he goes for the MVP but damn this dude sulks around so much. 

Embiid is a problem obviously. His 2019-20 numbers were actually better cause he had the 4 months off to heal up and was actually healthy for once in the postseason. Granted he got destroyed by the Celtics in 4 games.

But let’s not pretend the same thing we’ve just talked about with doc weren’t the same exact things that got him fired from the clippers or what he’s been ridiculed for a decade with. this has been the same pattern with doc since 2013. You don’t have your teams blow 9 series when up 2-0, 3-2 or 3-1. You don’t have a 6-10 record in game 7s and really losing each of the last 5. Heck he’s 3-8 in his last 11 game 7s. He’s very much a representation of the sixers. He once won a title but hasn’t been out of the second round in over a decade. Players didn’t show up but he is also not the coach that’s gonna get you over the top with his coaching. Celtics were clearly the better talented team. Doc gives you nothing to make up any of that difference. 

Has Glenn been fired yet?

Harden didn't show up for a big game.... What a shocker

1 minute ago, bbabraham said:

Has Glenn been fired yet?

Hopefully early in the day tomorrow. 

Hopefully we've seen the last of Glenn, Harden, and Harris. I know he's not a big time player for us, but please no more De'Anthony Melton. Good lawd that guy sucks at basketball. Seeing him out there with the season on the line throwing up bricks, and being an absolute turnstile on defense, was just salt in the wounds. 

Just now, Gannan said:

Hopefully we've seen the last of Glenn, Harden, and Harris. I know he's not a big time player for us, but please no more De'Anthony Melton. Good lawd that guy sucks at basketball. Seeing him out there with the season on the line throwing up bricks, and being an absolute turnstile on defense, was just salt in the wounds. 

Why Memphis got rid of him. He sucked in the playoffs. 

Did playoff tucker save the day yet? 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Did playoff tucker save the day yet? 

He helped to be sure. Couldn’t compensate for Doc, Hardin, Embiid and the rest of the team.

Yeesh.

 

4 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Did playoff tucker save the day yet? 

Doc in his infinite wisdom thought De'Anthony Melton who can't hit the side of a barn with a basketball and can't defend a rec league player was a better option with the season on the line. 

LMAO

I hate to say it, but as good as Embiid is, get rid of him. He doesn’t have the toughness and determination when it matters most, and even Tucker, God love him, couldn’t bring it out in him. He’s gotta be worth a lot, get everything that you can for him.

12 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

He helped to be sure. Couldn’t compensate for Doc, Hardin, Embiid and the rest of the team.

Tbh this whole thing stems back to the beginning of the end which was the firing and handling of Sam hinkie. I’ve said this on here for years you do not make the number of mistakes the 76ers have over the course of time and win titles. Most of the teams are winning titles or at least getting to the Eastern conference finals or the finals don’t make the massive amount of mistakes the 76ers have.

We can start with the more recent in morey just waiting out for James Harden in the Simmons deal. who was completely done being anywhere close to the type of player he was in Houston and was really never a reliable player in big close out games deeper in the playoffs. They would’ve been much better off just accepting Halliburton and Buddy Hield than James Harden. 

that said previous regimes of colangelo, brand/brown left behind a crap show and lack of good assets by the time they were done. They traded for butler only to let him walk ( and i can tell you from a former coach on the sixers they never offered him a 5th year. Said it then and I’ll say it again. They never did cause they thought he wouldn’t hold up and the team would implode with his relationship with Ben and brown). They drafted fultz, okafor and Simmons who ultimately never materialized into the players they thought. They dealt away bridges for a first and smith who never even played. They spent the last of their big money cap space on a center that was declining in horford. Then wound up giving up a first round pick to acquire Danny green in exchange then ultimately wound up with melton from it all. Wasted cap space. They gave tobias Harris a near max and no one wanted to touch that contract until maybe this offseason as an expiring contract. 

This doesn’t even include the disaster burner gate or ownership bowing down to the nba who forced colangelo on them. 

from the time hinkie got fired the FO management decisions, players and ownership has basically been a train wreck that had just enough talent in embiid and the team to get them past the first round. 

the only moves the sixers have really hit on during the process was the original butler trade, embiid, maxey and signing pj tucker (who did what he was brought in to do, i don’t remotely blame him) 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

who did what he was brought in to do, i don’t remotely blame him) 

I make jokes but, you are right it wasn't even close to being Tuckers fault at all. He just was never going to be enough or be able to play hero. Great role player though

Training camp just a couple months away...

Can’t wait to see Summer League!! 

Niang.... Lmao it looked like I grabbed him... No you did grab him moron

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I make jokes but, you are right it wasn't even close to being Tuckers fault at all. He just was never going to be enough or be able to play hero. Great role player though

People were angry about that signing. I had less of an issue with it. He is what he is. There’s a lot of 10 mil a year players that will give you far less in playoff time and in terms of toughness than tucker. He gave you exactly what you expected him to and I’m guessing teams would love to have him on their squad. This falls on other players, coaches and front office. 

The Sixers sit where they do right now for many reasons. Morey just ultimately wanting to have James Harden and not opening his mind to younger guys for Ben Simmons. Another is the amount of garbage left behind by Colangelo, brand and brown by the time morey got to the Sixers. It is really hard to make a team capable of beating a Boston Celtics or Golden State Warriors and all these other teams when you’re stuck with Tobias Harris contract and given an awful Al Horford contract. You had to give up a first round pick just to get out of horford contracr. all you have to show for it now is melton (horford for green and a first then green for melton). And you weren’t gonna get much better than that because of how horrible Al Horford was with the Sixers and his contract put the sixers in a dire situation. 

again, this all comes down to good owners with good stable front offices tend to have more success than bad ownership that has numerous issues and instability with their front offices. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

again, this all comes down to good owners with good stable front offices tend to have more success than bad ownership that has numerous issues and instability with their front offices

This is the main issue, Kobe Bryant said it awhile back that super stars don't want to play for bad owners

10 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

This is the main issue, Kobe Bryant said it awhile back that super stars don't want to play for bad owners

Joshua Harris is an awful owner. He’s proven that time and time again. The disasters of burner gate, allowing the nba to force colangelo on the team, letting brown and brand be the front office decision makers after the raptors series and then this year purposefully getting under the luxury tax to make $16 mil instead of making moves knowing the team wasn’t good enough. 

I felt this for a while. I hope the city of Philadelphia does not give him a new stadium. Because I think Joshua Harris wants to build a new stadium so that he can ultimately sell the team as the end of the process era closes and he stands to make more money as they have their own place but they are left in ruins due to his ownership decisions. At this point I hope they tell him to F off and he gets frustrated and just sells the team.  

 

12 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

This is the main issue, Kobe Bryant said it awhile back that super stars don't want to play for bad owners

it's one of  the reasons why you dont tank, you have to attract difference makers, if you dont attract difference makers regardless of who you draft you not going to win.