3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The FOX broadcast showed a graphic about how Dallas was 195-0 when leading by 14 points entering fourth quarter.

Oopsie

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

12 NFC teams with 4 losses.

Saints pick up to #4.

Bills awful clock management, absolutely appreciate Siri and the Eagles with how they eliminate possessions for the opponent when they get leads.

Saturday proving why he earned the job...lol, but seriously, Raiders need to step up and get ahead of the Saints.   Unbelievable how they only won 2 games??    I'm greedy, I want the 2nd pick in the 2023 draft.

IDK, LV was on track last year to "put things together". Even got Adams. hard to fathom why they can't win games with the talent they have. Carr isn't elite,but he's not terrible, jacobs is a decent enough RB,really very weird things going on in LV

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Josh Allen has been making huge mistakes at the end of these games. Four straight weeks he’s done some really questionable stuff.

Opens it up for Mahomes to win MVP 

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK, LV was on track last year to "put things together". Even got Adams. hard to fathom why they can't win games with the talent they have. Carr isn't elite,but he's not terrible, jacobs is a decent enough RB,really very weird things going on in LV

You need to know how to play with a lead.   I know you harp on running up the score and needing one more TD than last year.    But limiting the opponents chances of scoring is the way to ensure wins.    

It's to the point where you don't like being up 12 with 2 minutes left with our opponent having the ball on our 30.    Watch the Bills play calling.  Put themselves in position to lose with a fluke catch and a defensive goal line stand.   

Watch Dallas blow a 14 point lead.

The Raiders blowing leads all year.   

Not rocket science we are holding leads after we get ahead, by using clock, and forcing them to throw short and use clock themselves.  

Our coaching staff has been excellent this year. 

" in the playoffs,  you can't stop scoring after getting a big lead"

I'm not worried about that.  IMO we won't get that big lead, more importantly that we can play and win with the game being close or come from behind.   We do more than fine with a lead.

It is no secret, We all wanted Jefferson in that draft. Seems like the only people who didn't were in charge of the Eagles draft....

39 minutes ago, stine said:

It is no secret, We all wanted Jefferson in that draft. Seems like the only people who didn't were in charge of the Eagles draft....

When you over think stuff like...."speed" .... " slot receiver"  ... " run stuffer"   these type of things happen.   You miss picks for dumb reasons.    

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

When you over think stuff like...."speed" .... " slot receiver"  ... " run stuffer"   these type of things happen.   You miss picks for dumb reasons.    

It is no secret, We all wanted Jefferson in that draft. Seems like the only people who didn't were in charge of the Eagles draft...

Not me. I believe in keeping the lines fortified. They're aging and we'll be losing some, so we got a few of the replacements. If we hadn't, next yr many would be ****in' about the poor line play. Yeah, Jeffersons' really good - nobody knew how long it would take him to adjust to the NFL. It's also not all about him, he's on a good team with a good QB.

BTW - anyone notice how poorly dak played under pressure? They were also w/o zeke.

1 minute ago, mjkline1958 said:

It is no secret, We all wanted Jefferson in that draft. Seems like the only people who didn't were in charge of the Eagles draft...

Not me. I believe in keeping the lines fortified. They're aging and we'll be losing some, so we got a few of the replacements. If we hadn't, next yr many would be ****in' about the poor line play. Yeah, Jeffersons' really good - nobody knew how long it would take him to adjust to the NFL. It's also not all about him, he's on a good team with a good QB.

BTW - anyone notice how poorly dak played under pressure? They were also w/o zeke.

  Yeah but we drafted Reagor right before Jefferson..... Not a lineman.

My bad, came in late on the convo. Don't even remember what the talk about Reagor was before the draft whether he was being highly sought or not. It's a chapter I'd rather forget. Sometimes you just have to lick your wounds and move on.

4 minutes ago, stine said:

  Yeah but we drafted Reagor right before Jefferson..... Not a lineman.

And now the Vikes have em both

On pain meds - easily confused. Surgery this Thurs - then the heavy duty pains meds!

A bunch of guys to have fixed that pass catcher problem for years before the Jefferson pick. Looking good at the position now.

25 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

 

BTW - anyone notice how poorly dak played under pressure? They were also w/o zeke.

Yes, Dak isn't all that.   He was drafted in the 4th round , so he exceeded expectations early, been overrated due to that. 

Zeke...not sure he was missed.  Pollard looked pretty good!

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes, Dak isn't all that.   He was drafted in the 4th round , so he exceeded expectations early, been overrated due to that. 

Zeke...not sure he was missed.  Pollard looked pretty good!

You could look at the Cowboy situation from bringing Cooper just to balloon Dak’s stock.

31 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

On pain meds - easily confused. Surgery this Thurs - then the heavy duty pains meds!

Pain meds suck

Had both knees replaced and got off that garbage as quick as i could

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You need to know how to play with a lead.   I know you harp on running up the score and needing one more TD than last year.    But limiting the opponents chances of scoring is the way to ensure wins.    

It's to the point where you don't like being up 12 with 2 minutes left with our opponent having the ball on our 30.    Watch the Bills play calling.  Put themselves in position to lose with a fluke catch and a defensive goal line stand.   

Watch Dallas blow a 14 point lead.

The Raiders blowing leads all year.   

Not rocket science we are holding leads after we get ahead, by using clock, and forcing them to throw short and use clock themselves.  

Our coaching staff has been excellent this year. 

There is a difference between running out the clock with 3 minutes in the 4th,and running out the clock with 11 minutes left in the 3rd 1/4. So far that has worked because we score our points in the 2nd 1/4 and let the defense take over. IDK how you cannot see this? Because we play crap teams the lead we had is enough and the defense that good. Against good teams the "ball stall" is just setting up the OTHER team to come back on you(aka blowing a lead) and I merely said,stopping your scoring at 1/2 time is not a good thing to get used to(and it's not) and if you notice if you score 32 points per game(my GOAL) you usually can add a W to the win column. That +16 (or whatever it is) turnover ration means nothing? Teams could come back on us without that?? We're doing better the last few games scoring not just "ball stall" Ultimately I am fine with the ball stall IF YOU SCORE. I'm not going to review every game for you,but the D has saved our bacon more than once which is great for the W column,but should NOT be relied upon by the offense. "OH all we need are 21 points then we can coast. That's not a good way to think. There will be ZERO way to use that strategy vs Dullaz 

2 hours ago, stine said:

It is no secret, We all wanted Jefferson in that draft. Seems like the only people who didn't were in charge of the Eagles draft....

And Ham

46 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

And now the Vikes have em both

And they aren't using him either,just as a returner,which could spell trouble when he decides to drop more balls LOL

38 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

On pain meds - easily confused. Surgery this Thurs - then the heavy duty pains meds!

Oh man sorry to hear this. I thought you were kind of "out of the woods" or at least close enough to see the clearing. Been a rough week here too. Daughters MRI's came back.Her V5/6  disc is almost totally gone and others are collapsing. She's only 37. My MRI's came back and of course I have some weird rare colon thing I have been suffering with for 2 years(besides back and hip issues). Something where my colon has separated then part of it twisted, so lots of fun ahead for me now too. Of course I get rare stuff to make the doctors earn their degrees lol

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes, Dak isn't all that.   He was drafted in the 4th round , so he exceeded expectations early, been overrated due to that. 

Zeke...not sure he was missed.  Pollard looked pretty good!

Well hopefully they are ALL back,because I want to beat them with no dang excuses. I imagine their LB's will all be at 100% also

Cecal Vovolus is what I have(plus an arched spine which I already knew). So waiting for the gastro guy to make his call. probably a short surgery and IDK if he wants to cancel my endo early Dec or let it go forward since they already found the problem. The CT scan alone was $6,013.00 before medicare. it involved drinking 16 ounces of prep "stuff" and about 15 minutes of scanning, that is $24,052.00 per hour from JUST THAT ROOM. This is the biz to be in

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

There is a difference between running out the clock with 3 minutes in the 4th,and running out the clock with 11 minutes left in the 3rd 1/4. 

Buffalo had just over 10 minutes left with a 10 point lead.  They took your approach.  They passed on 3rd and 2. Went for it on 4th down and missed.  Minnesota got the ball only down 10 with all that time left. 

If Buffalo runs clock then kicks a FG... the math works in their favor to win.   

The math also works earlier in the game... ie 3rd Q if the lead is 3 TDs.    You limit possessions for the opponent.   

Idk....we are 8-0 and other teams have losses... but I'm sure it's just luck, nothing to do with game managing.  Idc, I'll take our coaching approach over the others.  If we lose, it won't be due to game management. 

When Buffalo travels to KC in the playoffs ... they only have themselves to blame 

41 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Buffalo had just over 10 minutes left with a 10 point lead.  They took your approach.  They passed on 3rd and 2. Went for it on 4th down and missed.  Minnesota got the ball only down 10 with all that time left. 

If Buffalo runs clock then kicks a FG... the math works in their favor to win.   

The math also works earlier in the game... ie 3rd Q if the lead is 3 TDs.    You limit possessions for the opponent.   

Idk....we are 8-0 and other teams have losses... but I'm sure it's just luck, nothing to do with game managing.  Idc, I'll take our coaching approach over the others.  If we lose, it won't be due to game management. 

When Buffalo travels to KC in the playoffs ... they only have themselves to blame 

We each can hand pick games here LOL. Yes you limit them by taking the ball away and setting up your offense. the offense needs to make them PAY,even if it's a FG.We lead the league in that BY FAR. We've had teams come back on us,but the turnovers saved the day

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Went for it on 4th down and missed

Yep pretty stupid move there. Siri goes alot too. 4th down calls all suck if you miss, but are excellent calls if they work. maybe the right call with lack of execution? Also depends where you are on the field if it's worth the risk or not

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