1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s correlating to us giving up a bunch of sacks. Being low on our yards per carry.

Our best Oline is winning their matchup against too many Dline

Again...when you sat these things... start with ...." even though I think we have the best OL"....  when you keep making these points , it's very hard to believe that you think we have the best OL.  Because if you do... then you sure sound odd.  

The OL translates into wins.   Please do not insinuate that Miles Sanders is carrying the OL?   

 

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Well...because as you said... it's not about 2022... it's about the future 

Tell me how our OL looks Iike next year?   You have starters and backups not under contract.  It needs to be addressed.

Look at recent years....our OL.  It's been good, great and bad.   Look how the record reflects that.   Now look at RB room.  How has the record reflected that room?  

You can't justify paying Sanders.   Keeping a certain amount of starters isn't a good reason. 

I can’t justify the investment in Oline anymore is what I’m seeing. Watched Cincy. See our best group not winning that trench matchup. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes. Don’t forget Stoll

He tries hard, but he's not going to be a real weapon on offense as an outlet guy. The 3 'other" TE's all combined for 1 yard and 3 penalties. I would have NP losing all 3 or maybe keep calcaterra cause he just got here

Ham, what was your perception of our run defense vs Washington?  

What were their yards per carry?

Do both things seem to go together?

So " yards per carry"  we sneak an awful lot.  We are good in short yardage.  That kinda lowers " yards per carry"

Yet under your boy AR...we have good " yards per carry"   how did that help?

18 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And let's see what happens in the playoffs when teams will attempt to take that away.

Only in the playoffs do teams try to take that away….hahahaha. They gameplan charge specific to account for him every week. Yet he still does it. You think they just don’t see that he can run and he’s sneaking up on them by having this hidden talent?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I can’t justify the investment in Oline anymore is what I’m seeing. Watched Cincy. See our best group not winning that trench matchup. 

Some are aging,they have to pick their fights and HOLD the other times(also called pacing yourself). Why we need a youth injection at C RG and RT. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Only in the playoffs do teams try to take that away….hahahaha. They gameplan charge specific to account for him every week. Yet he still does it. You think they just don’t see that he can run and he’s sneaking up on them by having this hidden talent?

What is the combined records of the teams we have played year to date?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I can’t justify the investment in Oline anymore is what I’m seeing. Watched Cincy. See our best group not winning that trench matchup. 

So do you think we have the best OL?

You said yes we do.

It's fact we have the best record right.   So there is good chance that one leafs to the other.

2017 we dominated all year...best team in football.  3 first team All Pros... best OL...kinda worked out.

2020... musical chairs...OL sucked..we sucked.  

I don't understand why you wouldn't want to keep a top line?   Especially after seeing the correlation to winning?

Yet there is none when looking at paying RBs?

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And let's see what happens in the playoffs when teams will attempt to take that away.

This is just a terrible comment. Why come playoffs will teams then try and stop Hurts from running? Regular season they don’t game plan. They haven’t used spies. I mean Hurts seen practically every which way they try and stop him from running. I’d absolutely say the opposing DC gameplans first thing is account for Hurts running. Every week. Regular season even. What are you watching?

45-38 FL st -4 mins in the 4th. A real defensive struggle LOL fun game to watch

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Only in the playoffs do teams try to take that away….hahahaha. They gameplan charge specific to account for him every week. Yet he still does it. You think they just don’t see that he can run and he’s sneaking up on them by having this hidden talent?

Ok... I'm not going over the difference between win or go home ...or go play a different style QB next week regardless.  Nor will i say ask Baltimore fans the difference in putting up record points in the regular season vs flopping in playoffs. will just see what happens.   

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

So do you think we have the best OL?

You said yes we do.

It's fact we have the best record right.   So there is good chance that one leafs to the other.

2017 we dominated all year...best team in football.  3 first team All Pros... best OL...kinda worked out.

2020... musical chairs...OL sucked..we sucked.  

I don't understand why you wouldn't want to keep a top line?   Especially after seeing the correlation to winning?

Yet there is none when looking at paying RBs?

AR’s scheme is old school and had to have Oline. The way his O is built. Don’t think anybody else scheme relies on it as much as him. So I’m not using his philosophy to make broad statements league wide. I’m also not going to get stuck in yester year. Game evolves. Gotta keep up. I try and stay ahead.

I really enjoy rivalry weekend. Tomorrow is the Big Kahuna OSU/Michigan

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ur a hater,like me!!!

Just are stuck in decades ago logic. Which many are. But todays game is different.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

AR’s scheme is old school and had to have Oline. The way his O is built. Don’t think anybody else scheme relies on it as much as him. So I’m not using his philosophy to make broad statements league wide. I’m also not going to get stuck in yester year. Game evolves. Gotta keep up. I try and stay ahead.

Hurts can run without an Oline? Nice to know

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Um we usually GO on 4th and 1.That will lower your YPC as that counts as 1 rushing yard

I will get as many of those picks in the draft as I can

You think we run in short yardage at a much higher rate than the rest of the league?

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again...when you sat these things... start with ...." even though I think we have the best OL"....  when you keep making these points , it's very hard to believe that you think we have the best OL.  Because if you do... then you sure sound odd.  

The OL translates into wins.   Please do not insinuate that Miles Sanders is carrying the OL?   

 

If I’m not arguing against that point what’s it matter about convincing you. I’m pointing out the flaws and weakness of that logic.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

AR’s scheme is old school and had to have Oline. The way his O is built. Don’t think anybody else scheme relies on it as much as him. So I’m not using his philosophy to make broad statements league wide. I’m also not going to get stuck in yester year. Game evolves. Gotta keep up. I try and stay ahead.

I'm not using his philosophy either... just look around at what's going on.  You see the lines impact winning... all over the place.   Great, good, decent, bad, awful...you see it translate. 

RB...why couldn't these top RBs translate to winning.  Im not paying Sanders $8 mil and then an average starting G around the same.   Much rather draft RB and pay peanuts and get stud RG for $14 mil

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again...when you sat these things... start with ...." even though I think we have the best OL"....  when you keep making these points , it's very hard to believe that you think we have the best OL.  Because if you do... then you sure sound odd.  

The OL translates into wins.   Please do not insinuate that Miles Sanders is carrying the OL?   

 

Said it like five times. 

Turn on the end of this FL game

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just are stuck in decades ago logic. Which many are. But todays game is different.

Yes..the RB doesn't translate anymore. It's a passing league

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You think we run in short yardage at a much higher rate than the rest of the league?

Yeah

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Said it like five times. 

That we have the best OL...yet you don't want to invest in it. You would prefer to invest in Sanders?

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He tries hard, but he's not going to be a real weapon on offense as an outlet guy. The 3 'other" TE's all combined for 1 yard and 3 penalties. I would have NP losing all 3 or maybe keep calcaterra cause he just got here

But he’s excellent blocking. He doesn’t seem to drop the ball either. So he’s that sixth option. Can probably go unnoticed when he actually goes out. But there are different TE positions. He’s that in-line blocker. Whatever you want to call it. Probably could HBack or fullback too.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If I’m not arguing against that point what’s it matter about convincing you. I’m pointing out the flaws and weakness of that logic.

What is the flaw of logic that shows correlation between line of scrimmage and winning?

Explain the flaw...you haven't pointed out jack squat as to any flaws in that. You spit stats.. I'm saying wins.