There's that "worthless","pointless" "useless", "means nothing" SOS again I argued with bird ish about. LOL Gotta love those rookies

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

There's that "worthless","pointless" "useless", "means nothing" SOS again I argued with bird ish about. LOL Gotta love those rookies

Idk what that was about, but it's the only tiebreaker when it comes to draft position.   So with 5 to 8 teams having the same record, it's pretty meaningful. 

Now while I pointed out the pick can drop to 11.  If the Saints lose, Rams win and we lose to the Bears... it could jump to #3.    How perfect would that be... 15-2 with a loss to the Bears just to bump the pick up.  Lol

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Stine... you can't stop with ATL... that's who the Saints play this week.   I'm not looking at 4 games here...I'm simply stating CORRECTLY..  that the pick can drop to 11 THIS WEEK.  

Why is it hard to comprehend?   They all have 5 wins or less this week... the Saints would be in the 11th spot. Behind all the 4 win teams ( 6 of them) and  Raiders, Carolina,  ATL and Jax...who could stay at 5 wins but have lower SOS.

Why I'd hard to see simple math right in front of you?     THIS week...it could drop to 11.   Next Tuesday it could show as pick 11.   That's it...nothing about anything else. 

Where do you get 11? First, there are only 3 teams with 4 wins; Arizona, Rams and Indy. Then you have Houston, Denver and Bears. That is 6. Raiders make 7. Only one of Carolina and Atlanta comes into play IF NO has 5 wins as the other team would have beaten them. So Simple math dictates 9 NOT 11. Maybe you should look again.

You are looking at one WEEK. I am looking at the season. BIG Difference Joe. We know that Atlanta or Carolina will have one more win than us if NO only wins one more game.

 

I forgot Jacksonville. OK 10th at worse case. My bad

 

7 minutes ago, stine said:

You are looking at one WEEK. I am looking at the season. BIG Difference Joe. We know that Atlanta or Carolina will have one more win than us if NO only wins one more game.

 

Yes... 11th is a possibility.  I've been saying THIS WEEK the whole time.    Ths week can be 11.   Then they play Cleveland.. which they can win and the math would make it drop further.  

I'm not disagreeing that they stink.  Just they are playing other teams that stink ...and by bad luck it's teams directly behind them .. so they win, it also means the other team loses. 

Idk about you...but I can't guarantee anything when it comes to ATL or Cleveland. To be so confident in saying those teams will win... I don’t feel the same way.  Very possible they could have 5 or 6 wins in 2 weeks and have the pick drop dramatically.    Then obviously it could go back up with a loss to the Eagles. 

I would just prefer going into the last game vs Carolina, that we look at if the Saints win that one, it still keeps the pick high.  These next  weeks are huge, no way around it.

15 minutes ago, stine said:

You are looking at one WEEK. I am looking at the season. BIG Difference Joe. We know that Atlanta or Carolina will have one more win than us if NO only wins one more game.

 

Lol.. they can only win one game per week.  Still 4 left.  3 very winnable ones. 

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes... 11th is a possibility.  I've been saying THIS WEEK the whole time.    Ths week can be 11.   Then they play Cleveland.. which they can win and the math would make it drop further.  

I'm not disagreeing that they stink.  Just they are playing other teams that stink ...and by bad luck it's teams directly behind them .. so they win, it also means the other team loses. 

Idk about you...but I can't guarantee anything when it comes to ATL or Cleveland. To be so confident in saying those teams will win... I don’t feel the same way.  Very possible they could have 5 or 6 wins in 2 weeks and have the pick drop dramatically.    Then obviously it could go back up with a loss to the Eagles. 

I would just prefer going into the last game vs Carolina, that we look at if the Saints win that one, it still keeps the pick high.  These next  weeks are huge, no way around it.

Joe, I simply made a statement. I am not going into all of the scenarios, as it is nearly impossible to do so. It is given that Atlanta and Carolina play each other, so I took that into account. I said that IF Saints only win 1 more game than the Worse pick they can get is 10th ( I forgot Jacksonville earlier). I am not going into all other possibilities. Obviously it could be allot worse should they win 2 more.....

2 minutes ago, stine said:

Joe, I simply made a statement. I am not going into all of the scenarios, as it is nearly impossible to do so. It is given that Atlanta and Carolina play each other, so I took that into account. I said that IF Saints only win 1 more game than the Worse pick they can get is 10th ( I forgot Jacksonville earlier). I am not going into all other possibilities. Obviously it could be allot worse should they win 2 more.....

Ok.. but you are looking into " if the Saints win only one more game"   I never said any of that.   I didn't look past this week.  Thr conversation was apples and you are talking oranges.   This week the pick can drop to 11.  

With that being said.   Cleveland the next opponent... it could drop further with another win.  

I don't care about putting limits on wins yet.   4 more games means could be 4 more wins.  I can't put a limit on it yet...other than we can say ..." if they don't win another game,  we know it's a top 5 pick at worst.   Right now we can't limit the downside yet. Hopefully Tampa wins and we can at least eliminate winning the division.  The fact it's still in play is annoying. 

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok.. but you are looking into " if the Saints win only one more game"   I never said any of that.   I didn't look past this week.  Thr conversation was apples and you are talking oranges.   This week the pick can drop to 11.  

With that being said.   Cleveland the next opponent... it could drop further with another win.  

I don't care about putting limits on wins yet.   4 more games means could be 4 more wins.  I can't put a limit on it yet...other than we can say ..." if they don't win another game,  we know it's a top 5 pick at worst.   Right now we can't limit the downside yet. Hopefully Tampa wins and we can at least eliminate winning the division.  The fact it's still in play is annoying. 

Whatever. Maybe you should go back to the first post I made. It sure would have prevented allot of posts!

Most Likely NO draft pick will be between 7-12. They will probably win 1-2 more games.....

The pick will be what it is. You guys ride me about "letting it go" and "moving on" but you took my place 🤣

Weather is alot nicer since I left Hamityville 😆

1 hour ago, stine said:

Whatever. Maybe you should go back to the first post I made. It sure would have prevented allot of posts!

Sure....or visa versa. 

1 hour ago, stine said:

Whatever. Maybe you should go back to the first post I made. It sure would have prevented allot of posts!

Ohhh. I think you used Atlanta in your first post, instead of saying the Saints.  Probably why it wasn't making sense? 

No idea. My mind is going!  I am retired end of the week so kind of going crazy getting everything done here and spot checking this site....

Just now, stine said:

No idea. My mind is going!  I am retired end of the week so kind of going crazy getting everything done here and spot checking this site....

Congrats!!!!!!

  Off subject. I discovered a lump about the size of a 1" long pencil diameter. I do not believe going to doctors for cancer as they killed my fiance' 11 years ago. So I started drinking Essiac Tea 4 times a day. My wife makes it and I have not been drinking it for around 6 months.... Anyway 4 weeks later and it is gone. Not a sign of it!  Glad it worked as I will never do Chemo....

 

7 minutes ago, stine said:

No idea. My mind is going!  I am retired end of the week so kind of going crazy getting everything done here and spot checking this site....

Good for you

5 minutes ago, stine said:

  Off subject. I discovered a lump about the size of a 1" long pencil diameter. I do not believe going to doctors for cancer as they killed my fiance' 11 years ago. So I started drinking Essiac Tea 4 times a day. My wife makes it and I have not been drinking it for around 6 months.... Anyway 4 weeks later and it is gone. Not a sign of it!  Glad it worked as I will never do Chemo....

 

My mother did chemo and was sick for 2 years before she died.

I agree, i'm not going that route either

Besides, as much radaition as i've been exposed to getting close to me will kill any cancer.

17 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Right....how does PFF make it complicated to where you just don't look at the yards?     I'm curious how something simple can be made into E= MC2???  

Like I kick a ball 45 yards you kick it 44.  But I have a worse rating with PFF???  Doesn't make sense does it?  

 

 

Sure it does. Plenty of factors involved with each punt.

2 hours ago, stine said:

No idea. My mind is going!  I am retired end of the week so kind of going crazy getting everything done here and spot checking this site....

Oh congrats on retiring

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure it does. Plenty of factors involved with each punt.

I'm curious on this one.  

Congrads on your retirement if that's what you wanted.

Better than the tea I quit smoking after 47 yrs. Docs said it would help the arch reconstruction heal better and as this is the 2nd time, I don't want to go thru this pain again.

Dallas has a tendency to look ahead of games. Odds on them dropping one to JAX?