51 minutes ago, matchew88 said:

Dallas has a tendency to look ahead of games. Odds on them dropping one to JAX?

Close to 50%.   They are overrated... JAX seems to be getting better. 

20 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Oh my gosh, we are arguing over the Punter again. Mercy!

I think this actually fixing things. Our P was just bad. But now we will upgrade the position. You’ll see. Offense has been so good really made the Punting minimal as possible. Think it said we punted fifth least.

20 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What if it's pick 11? That's a HUGE Gaping abyss we can't crawl out of between 10 and 11, although there are super studs in round 2 🤣

Getting closer on really evaluating this class now. 10 and 11 might be out if the elite zone actually. This last summer I was looking for top ten. Now I see top 7. So I actually need to get pumped on a few more prospects to actually fit real get to ten even. All matters where the dropoff is. At this point the last two elite guys we’d be in play for would be RB and TE. So that is far from ideal.

Several Dline prospects ranked in the first second round area. So maybe the draft process gets me pumped on another guy or two. I’m just not locked in on all that level just yet. Too focused on this unbelievable season. Really felt we should have gone all in on 2022. Being so light at S as the master plan this season was a big mistake. Undrafted Blankenship bailed Rosie out a little bit. He was clearly forced to make a trade before the season….because he grossly undermanned the position. The master plan was terrible there. Bradbury fell in our laps. Without Bradbury I think this D is very different. Rosie got pretty lucky. He also made some great moves. But whatever is master plan was for this past offseason it had some gaping holes. 

Bringing back Harris as practically the whole plan at S was just terrible. What was the plan at the second corner spot?

I’ll give Rosie that he at least recognized the area he completely missed. Seemed obvious the whole time to me…I’d think others also. 

But yeah, I’m still leery of the S situation. I feel you gotta have four S. Three on the field for Dime. Gannon was hamstrung a bit by trying to just ignore Dime packages. Feel it’s a fairly crucial D package in todays NFL. Two playing most all the time. So having a legit backup for two different S spots is just needed. But you also have the option of him backing up the slot. 

9 hours ago, stine said:

Joe, I simply made a statement. I am not going into all of the scenarios, as it is nearly impossible to do so. It is given that Atlanta and Carolina play each other, so I took that into account. I said that IF Saints only win 1 more game than the Worse pick they can get is 10th ( I forgot Jacksonville earlier). I am not going into all other possibilities. Obviously it could be allot worse should they win 2 more.....

I’ve been thinking they might just sneak out two more wins here at the end for a few weeks now. Just didn’t want to waste too much time racking my brain on all scenarios. The situation clears up significantly here soon. So I was thinking two more wins gets them to around 12. But they’ve kept losing so far. So that’s good. But No Mas was crunching the numbers trying to explain to me two weeks ago that two wins by the Saints still keeps them top ten. I wasn’t seeing the math reading like that at all. But it seems now No Mas backed way out of his certainty about two wins keeping them top ten. He was so confident about it two weeks ago. But now he says one loss can move them to 11 right now even. Whatever, I was just guesstimating based on the basic tankathon info. Too lazy to actually go through the gazillion scenarios. Just going with the flow rooting against them. I can get more specific and serious about that pick prospects here in another week or two. 

But I think just like No Mas certainty of two wins for the Saints still keeps their pick top ten has within two weeks completely about faced. I’m more so focused on our team and this season. Just really a bunch still up in the air. We’ve completely dominated! Had a great season. But my math shows that a loss to the Cowboys and one other loss makes it possible we lose the division. Not just the one seed. We go from best team in the entire league. First seed. To Wild Card team. Crazy how everything so much on the line still. Worrying about one seed falling to two seed not much of a big deal. You lose that first week bye. But playing at home except MAYBE the NFC Championship game. Going from NFC East winner to Wild Card means we play on the road the whole way. Not like our team couldn’t win like that. But it would be a huge crushing moral blow.

Just can’t deny how much that would hurt. Wild card all the way…not a big deal. But the way this season has played out…that would be terrible. Just devastating to morale. Top to bottom all at the end to finish the season. We are riding so high right now. Just doesn’t feel like as dominant as this team has been this scenario is the only real possible one left to keep us from being on top.

2 hours ago, matchew88 said:

Dallas has a tendency to look ahead of games. Odds on them dropping one to JAX?

If we didn’t beat them they’d be right at the top of the conference. Their tendency is to start seasons strong and fade late though. Been great! Their fans get so crazy. Then watching it all crash and burn is just fantastic. Just wouldn’t bring me the same pleasure if it was any other team.

22 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Or it tells us that if Dallas managed the cap better... they could have kept Cooper.  A dude that is currently a top WR in the league.

You mean compared to us, right?

We were starting a second round rookie QB contract last season and couldn’t add any players. Still starting a rookie contract QB. What’s the difference in Dak and Hurts pay this and last season?

Dak at 40 mil and Hurts at 1.5 

You don’t think this is any factor?

You know the 38.5 mil difference in QB pay seems significant to me. 

Cowboys I’m not saying have been perfect with contracts

But just a couple seasons ago NoMas you were touting how much better Rosie was than Jerry at contracts at QB. Because Dak forced his hand. You seem to recognize players have a choice to sign or not when you want to try to force your agenda against things I say. But somehow miss this with Dak. Dak made the cowboys pay through the nose. I don’t think that even was on Jerry. That was on Dak.

QB that prove themselves have all the control. Market always going up. Seems we both can agree on that easily. So smart business and an agent doing his job…would say what? You seem to have a very good grasp on it’s cheaper for the team to sign a guy earlier. So then how could you not see from a player side it’s better to holdout and wait?

Dak had them over a barrel. They had to tag him twice. You think they just wanted to do that instead of sign him and spread cap hits? Weird that you understand the concept and financials so well….yet aren’t seeing the side of the player in this instance. You point it out in a heartbeat against my thoughts with Ceedy Duce. That’s in a situation where he already bet on himself. Turned the 8 mil the Saints we’re offering into 13 with us by just moving to S. But with Ceedy you balk at him taking that huge payday that he just launched into betting on himself. Not nearly the leverage that Dak was even in. Ceedy upping his value over 13 mil was very risky. Everything almost had to go right. Top pay at S is 20. Dak had the pay locked in at that point. Agent knew they’d have to tag. Once they had them stuck on the first tag….practically had them for ransom on the second tag. Easy business. How you clamor for the huge risk in Ceedy case but don’t see the obvious practically guaranteed Dak situation is beyond me.

You are adamant the way to go is sign the QB for the team. So why isn’t it just as obvious it’s not great for the QB?

But back to a couple seasons ago…your point was Dallas dumb for the contract situation with Dak. Brilliant with Rosie and Wentz. Seems like you’d see that clearly didn’t age well real quick. Rosie versus Jerry there…clearly Jerry was much wiser. Just not even close. Cost him more but he actually was paying a starting QB. We could slide cap dollars back and manipulate future money so we didn’t eat so much right away. But we paid it to the wrong guy. We got stuck paying that to the Colts starting QB. Just no brainer we lost that comparison. We were paying another teams starter/ Dallas was taking a harsher cap hit…but it at least was for their actual starter. Jerry killed Rosie on that. Dallas crushed the league last season. We found s way into the last spot of playoffs.

So we could bring in some FA. But even with our starting QB on his rookie contract we couldn’t afford to do that on the cap now. All bringing in FA on future cap dollars. That’s pretty sad when you think about it.

But clearly paying a Franchise QB limits a team much more than a team paying 1.5 mil for their guy. 38.5 mil difference. How much Cooper cost? How many FA could Dallas bring in for 38.5 mil? Tons.

But then we get to the other major factor. Dallas busy paying their own great draft picks. You bash Rosie not signing his draft picks for several years there. So clearly if you don’t draft players worth resigning then you have to get more expensive players through FA. Then you gotta guess their fit converting from a different team. Dallas keeping their own guys are s known quantity. 

So yes, Dallas doesn’t bring in FA like we do. To me that isn’t very positive at all. Mostly just bad for us.

Wonder what happened to 93 😞

My friend is a Bears fan and I refuse to let him live down the "tipped" missed kick HAHAHA. I got him all riled up now 🤣 Sorry(not sorry)

The double doink?

Had a bad thought if the schedule ran different  - like this game was last - we could "rest" our starters. 

Looks like Atlanta taking a dive demoting their QB. He's since left the team, supposedly has nothing to do with the knee.