https://www.profootballnetwork.com/darnell-washington-te-georgia-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/ Then there is this guy a road grader TE. He should go mid-late 2. He can catch. but his blocking ability is top rate. he would have to fall to our 62 pick and not sure he goes that late

Saw a rumor where we could be looking at stealing Tony Pollard from dem boyz but we'd have to pay about 1.8 mill more than what Sanders is worth. Would be fun, too many rumors this time of yr.

Anyway,there are so any ways to go with pick 1.Normally it's clear to me,but this time I am baffled because it could go so many way. We weren't done with the rebuild when we went "all in" so we need to get back to that. I have been watching CB Witherspoon. He's really excellent,but his best trait is the blitz which we don't do much. he is TOUGH stopping the run. I like him just a bit better than Porter,but once again I doubt Howie takes a DB first

4 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Saw a rumor where we could be looking at stealing Tony Pollard from dem boyz but we'd have to pay about 1.8 mill more than what Sanders is worth. Would be fun, too many rumors this time of yr.

I don't think we have the loot to spend on a RBBC RB this year. Scott may stay on the cheap,Gains did well for us. Sermon probably goes,no sense paying a guy who doesn't play unless we want him around as a BU. I would look at Fournette as the 3rd RBBC guy. He's 29 so nearing the end,but may be good for 1-2 years cheap. Draft Spears late in round 3

Oh well going to take a nap and watch the combine and write down DITRS we could get.

Something HR said was we need more than 1 RB. Know we have a few on futures etc, think we pick one or 2 up tho

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah Ertz and Goedert did that awhile. Thats why I had Higgins in round 7,same thing,he is a WR/TE. Of course not the caliber Mayer is,but could be brought up like we do other TE's. Getting Mayer though would probably open up a roster spot or 2 for something else. With him and Goedert you don't need 5 TE's. I remember I wanted Pitts in that draft,so this is similar. I could see it. Ham brought it up and at the time didn't think we would do that,but I suppose it's possible. It's hard to know where he would go exactly. I know GB would love to have him. It's going to be really interesting the next 2-3 months

So I get what you are saying with 2 TEs.  But I'm thinking differently than you.    I want two TEs that can run block and force the defense to go big instead of putting their best coverage unit out on the field.

Ertz didn't offer the blocking,so that is why the 2 TE group didn't work well with him.  Pitts another " receiving TE"and same with your 7th round tweener.

I'm talking about 2 physical TEs.  Defense can't focus on putting " coverage" out there like with Ertz, Pitts and a tweener.   Otherwise I'm running it down their throats.  Now the mismatch should be Goedert and Mayer vs bigger/ slower coverage LBs that need to be on the field to stop our run.

Grandson ran a 4.84 40 in his first day of spring workouts today that's at 260 pounds'

15 reps at 225  30 inch vert

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So I get what you are saying with 2 TEs.  But I'm thinking differently than you.    I want two TEs that can run block and force the defense to go big instead of putting their best coverage unit out on the field.

Ertz didn't offer the blocking,so that is why the 2 TE group didn't work well with him.  Pitts another " receiving TE"and same with your 7th round tweener.

I'm talking about 2 physical TEs.  Defense can't focus on putting " coverage" out there like with Ertz, Pitts and a tweener.   Otherwise I'm running it down their throats.  Now the mismatch should be Goedert and Mayer vs bigger/ slower coverage LBs that need to be on the field to stop our run.

OK,yeah good points. True,I tend to look at the more receiving ones. In HS I was a TE(not a great one),Some plays I would cut in behind the slot guy on the same pattern(basically you had 4 players in a line cutting across the field   1)our slot 2)  their cover guy   3) me, 4) whoever got stuck covering me.This basically gave our QB 2 windows short in the middle. I could run different patterns out of that or do a curl or turn upfield. Obviously you hit the slot guy first on read 3, but if he's covered I was option 4 (which I was most times my number wasn't called). You idea would work well vs teams that had weak LB's and S's. Most teams have a tough time with those 2 spots. Pity our coach never went pro,he was so innovative 

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Grandson ran a 4.84 40 in his first day of spring workouts today that's at 260 pounds'

15 reps at 225  30 inch vert

Sounds like a future Eagles TE pick

Some guys that moved up my big board - Dexter, Byron Young(not the QB), Beal, Diaby(underrated at this point)

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sounds like a future Eagles TE pick

Be still my heart

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Be still my heart

We want free game tix when he gets there. We're holding you accountable 🤣

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK,yeah good points. True,I tend to look at the more receiving ones. In HS I was a TE(not a great one),Some plays I would cut in behind the slot guy on the same pattern(basically you had 4 players in a line cutting across the field   1)our slot 2)  their cover guy   3) me, 4) whoever got stuck covering me.This basically gave our QB 2 windows short in the middle. I could run different patterns out of that or do a curl or turn upfield. Obviously you hit the slot guy first on read 3, but if he's covered I was option 4 (which I was most times my number wasn't called). You idea would work well vs teams that had weak LB's and S's. Most teams have a tough time with those 2 spots. Pity our coach never went pro,he was so innovative 

I'm thinking the opponent would need guys big enough to get blocked by Goedert and Mayer...but also be quick enough to cover them.  

If they are only good at one part of that,then we run or pass to their weakness.  

Also could create less speed on the field to help cover AJ and Smith.

Chess here, not checkers. One guy,the right guy... could be a huge game changer for our offense...which is already good,already young, already locked in long term. 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Some guys that moved up my big board - Dexter, Byron Young(not the QB), Beal, Diaby(underrated at this point)

I will add Will McDonald to this list. Not necessarily the best guys,but te ones I feel added to their draft stock. Bresee looks really good as does Kancey(I'm a fan)

Just now, joemas6 said:

I'm thinking the opponent would need guys big enough to get blocked by Goedert and Mayer...but also be quick enough to cover them.  

If they are only good at one part of that,then we run or pass to their weakness.  

Also could create less speed on the field to help cover AJ and Smith.

Chess here, not checkers. One guy,the right guy... could be a huge game changer for our offense...which is already good,already young, already locked in long term. 

Yeah the question is,is he worth a first pick. There are other guys maybe a little less talented that can do this with a later pick. Mayer CAN catch also. If he can add to the position offensively while doing what you say,then he is worth a 1 pick. The pro scouts would know better than I. I just don't want to get the same results with TWO players,that seems like a waste to me,then again as you said it frees up the wide outs,but we've already seen they can perform. Tough call but I see your point

IDK I'm looking at Kancey(4.48 40) who can play in or edge. Tremendously versatile. Davis is fast also,those 2 paired on the D line would create alot of problems. 

Will McDonald has some pretty wild stats 

Kancey and McDonald both fall through the cracks between 30 and 62 LOL TONS of nice players in that range. I would maybe take my chances and trade back to pick up one of those 40-50 area picks. IDK how far back we could go and still get a value guy. I'm thinking can't go much farther than 15. I'm nobody JMO. This falls right into Joes lap.If that TE holds until 15, and we can get a 40-50 range round 2 pick,there you go. This is a very difficult draft for me to navigate and I imagine Howie will have the same problems. Mayer, 30 ,a 40-50 pick,62,94 would suit us well  

I saw a scenario where we trade back to 19 with TB,then back up to 14,which works even better. need those planets to align

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

Be still my heart

BTW did you ever get one of those fan thingys? Mine cut my heat bill(along with my little plug in) from last year by 30% and that's with the price increase

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW did you ever get one of those fan thingys? Mine cut my heat bill(along with my little plug in) from last year by 30% and that's with the price increase

No i had forgotten all about them.  But i just found them again. Thanx

I guess i had a presidental moment

37 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

No i had forgotten all about them.  But i just found them again. Thanx

I guess i had a presidental moment

You too, can be president 🤣

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah the question is,is he worth a first pick. There are other guys maybe a little less talented that can do this with a later pick. Mayer CAN catch also. If he can add to the position offensively while doing what you say,then he is worth a 1 pick. The pro scouts would know better than I. I just don't want to get the same results with TWO players,that seems like a waste to me,then again as you said it frees up the wide outs,but we've already seen they can perform. Tough call but I see your point

Idk...I look at the weapons as a unit.  When they are on the field together how do they get defended?

2017... Agholor was awesome in the slot... Ertz is a great TE when he plays along with 3 WRs...why, because you have to put your 4th best cover guy on him.   

Goedert I see as more versatile.  Better blocker, better run after catch.  He isn't the route runner Ertz was.   So I preferto match him up with another simular type.  Instead of doubling down on the route running of Ertz and Agholor... I'm doubling down on the physicality of Goedert and another similar TE.   

In all honesty you said it yourself, there were 4 guys in the middle of the field, you and your slot guy,and the 2 defenders.   It's the same exact thing,except the label would be 2 TEs instead of TE and slot guy.

But let me ask you, what is the difference in reality?    The label of TE? Vs the label of slot WR?

Does it matter?   If Mayer or Quez line up I the tight slot,with Goedert on the other side inside...with AJ and Smith on the outside... what's the difference?

They still have to defend 4 targets...two outside and two inside.   But coming out of the huddle how do they match up?   Wouldn't you think they go big and slow because with 2 TEs we have the ability to put them both on the line or one in the backfield... basically run blockihg positions.  

I'm not worried about " with the #1 pick" ... I'm looking at the impact it could make on the game.   I didn't even get into the redzone impact.   I'm not worried about labels of TE or WR.. it's the 5th weapon or 4th receiving option is how I look at it.   This kid Mayer seems like an absolute can't miss stud. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Idk...I look at the weapons as a unit.  When they are on the field together how do they get defended?

2017... Agholor was awesome in the slot... Ertz is a great TE when he plays along with 3 WRs...why, because you have to put your 4th best cover guy on him.   

Goedert I see as more versatile.  Better blocker, better run after catch.  He isn't the route runner Ertz was.   So I preferto match him up with another simular type.  Instead of doubling down on the route running of Ertz and Agholor... I'm doubling down on the physicality of Goedert and another similar TE.   

In all honesty you said it yourself, there were 4 guys in the middle of the field, you and your slot guy,and the 2 defenders.   It's the same exact thing,except the label would be 2 TEs instead of TE and slot guy.

But let me ask you, what is the difference in reality?    The label of TE? Vs the label of slot WR?

Does it matter?   If Mayer or Quez line up I the tight slot,with Goedert on the other side inside...with AJ and Smith on the outside... what's the difference?

They still have to defend 4 targets...two outside and two inside.   But coming out of the huddle how do they match up?   Wouldn't you think they go big and slow because with 2 TEs we have the ability to put them both on the line or one in the backfield... basically run blockihg positions.  

I'm not worried about " with the #1 pick" ... I'm looking at the impact it could make on the game.   I didn't even get into the redzone impact.   I'm not worried about labels of TE or WR.. it's the 5th weapon or 4th receiving option is how I look at it.   This kid Mayer seems like an absolute can't miss stud. 

This here is the most formidable type of O. The key to it is having a realistic run game. Which the Eagles have.