3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But let's do just 2 years....seems like your magic #

Your way...Hurts would settle or $4 mil this year then get $50 mil next year...

Can we agree it's 54 mil total?

He is getting $64.3 mil the next 2 years.   

Can we agree 64.3 is more than 54?

Yes. So 10 mil. You don’t think salaries will rise? I absolutely believe Hurts could make up more than that. Your point is he’d never recoup the lost money. Tell Cousins that. His gold chain disagrees with you.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s just a HC difference as I  see it mostly. 

The two HC you openly bashed and were against? 

Manage the cap

Draft 

Hire the coach 

Pretty much the job of the GM.

What has made Dallas comparable to the Eagles...is they drafted way better for a period of time...that adds up.

It's obvious the Eagles have been better in the other 2.

Especially when looking at the rosters... being Dallas drafted better, we had to manipulate the cap better to get more free agent and trade help. 

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri deserved scrutiny. Playcalling stunk. Then he turned it over to Steichen. Is that not a fair assessment?

 You say add another year on ….but you also must note we are coming off an extremely high year to work in our favor. Yet still less wins during the season.

And 2020 we were coming off an extremely low year…. It’s also not accounting for us being the most injured team in the NFL from like 18-2020

Yet again since 2017 we have more wins in the regular season, we have more playoff wins, we have more SB appearances and we have more SB wins…. And this is with HCs nobody wanted and a terrible GM that just keeps ruining our team with his terrible cap management 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes. So 10 mil. You don’t think salaries will rise? I absolutely believe Hurts could make up more than that. Your point is he’d never recoup the lost money. Tell Cousins that. His gold chain disagrees with you.

But why would Hurts get 50 mil when we could tag him for 38?     What's your answer?   

So your example is 10 mil....the reality is no team would pay a guy 12 mil more than a tag for one year.

Come on now... stop digging the hole. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who hires the coach?

GM hires and fires. Ours hired a SB winning coach…then ran him out so everybody knows Rosie is responsible. But something doesn’t seem to add up here. Terrible HC but better regular season record since 2018. You say Rosie killing them on cap management also. Your opinion is they are terrible at cap management. Rosie the best. So you’d obviously think we’d actually have a massive lead in the W column over them…instead of being behind.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes. So 10 mil. You don’t think salaries will rise? I absolutely believe Hurts could make up more than that. Your point is he’d never recoup the lost money. Tell Cousins that. His gold chain disagrees with you.

Cousins had leverage...because Washington didn't offer him a deal early.   Had Washington done that... he could have had more cash in his pocket with the early start.    

Cousins issue is he was overpaid for how good he is....   and in a way it made for big cap hits.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Terrible HC but better regular season record since 2018.

I just want to know why you cut it at 2018 to fit your narrative… but don’t want to add in the mass injuries we dealt with since 2018

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The two HC you openly bashed and were against? 

Nope. Day one practically the only Pedey supporter. I wasn’t even against Siri. Just said he needed to prove it to me. I still have zero problem slamming the beginning of Siri here. His playcalling  just didn’t make sense. If he didn’t give up playcalling…I’d probably still complain about him. Excellent job by him to give that up.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Cousins had leverage...because Washington didn't offer him a deal early.   Had Washington done that... he could have had more cash in his pocket with the early start.    

Cousins issue is he was overpaid for how good he is....   and in a way it made for big cap hits.

So you say that even a mediocre QB can cash in big time. Think Hurts wouldn’t struggle then.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

GM hires and fires. Ours hired a SB winning coach…then ran him out so everybody knows Rosie is responsible. But something doesn’t seem to add up here. Terrible HC but better regular season record since 2018. You say Rosie killing them on cap management also. Your opinion is they are terrible at cap management. Rosie the best. So you’d obviously think we’d actually have a massive lead in the W column over them…instead of being behind.

I said Dallas is bad...  the Eagles are fine in cap management. 

I ask who does it better?  Legit question you don't want to answer.   I don't need to slurp like you do with Hurts and Sanders.    It's not a movie, it's real life.  I see the business side as common sense...not anything genius.  

The Eagles have business people in charge... most teams have football people. 

We see the advantages and disadvantages for both.    Lord knows we have seen the disadvantages... bad drafts and OC by committee...etc.  

Bad " football" stuff.... never bad business stuff.     The genesis for anything that may appear bad business...is bad football decisions. 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I just want to know why you cut it at 2018 to fit your narrative… but don’t want to add in the mass injuries we dealt with since 2018

Really....you have to wonder?

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But why would Hurts get 50 mil when we could tag him for 38?     What's your answer?   

So your example is 10 mil....the reality is no team would pay a guy 12 mil more than a tag for one year.

Come on now... stop digging the hole. 

38 mil I don’t believe is an accurate tag number for next season. Think it’s going to be closer to 50.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you say that even a mediocre QB can cash in big time. Think Hurts wouldn’t struggle then.

I'm saying the team controls... Washington could have paid Cousins early. Could have given him more cash and saved a ton in cap space.  They chose not to do so.

The Eagles don't care about the cash...they look at cap space.   So they pay early.....every time...McNabb, Vick, Wentz, Hurts...  they pay early to save cap.  That is their concern. 

But don't confuse that as the player taking less money.... Lurie pays.  

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I just want to know why you cut it at 2018 to fit your narrative… but don’t want to add in the mass injuries we dealt with since 2018

Surprising old guy injuries?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

38 mil I don’t believe is an accurate tag number for next season. Think it’s going to be closer to 50.

Ok... you are the expert... you know exactly the formula on how it's calculated???   So the website is wrong...but you are correct. 

You don't think this was all discussed and review all offseason by Hurts group and the Eagles...  not used at all during negotiations. 

Yet I'm the idiot?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Surprising old guy injuries?

Shocker teams that believe they are in a SB window chase proven players lol 😂 forgot the Rams we’re going out getting young guys for there SB run not getting an aging Stafford and other proven vets. 

How people forget we’re a dropped pass from the NFC championship game in 2018

Just now, joemas6 said:

I'm saying the team controls... Washington could have paid Cousins early. Could have given him more cash and saved a ton in cap space.  They chose not to do so.

The Eagles don't care about the cash...they look at cap space.   So they pay early.....every time...McNabb, Vick, Wentz, Hurts...  they pay early to save cap.  That is their concern. 

But don't confuse that as the player taking less money.... Lurie pays.  

I see it as Hurts did take less. Big fake number to make him the highest paid. Even doing that ….he did first before these other QBs cashed in. Already been out done.

Bucs were paying for young guys to help put them over the top… Paying Brady getting Gronk, AB, Suh etc. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... you are the expert... you know exactly the formula on how it's calculated???   So the website is wrong...but you are correct. 

You don't think this was all discussed and review all offseason by Hurts group and the Eagles...  not used at all during negotiations. 

Yet I'm the idiot?

I was under the assumption tag is average of top five players at the position.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... you are the expert... you know exactly the formula on how it's calculated???   So the website is wrong...but you are correct. 

You don't think this was all discussed and review all offseason by Hurts group and the Eagles...  not used at all during negotiations. 

Yet I'm the idiot?

So after Herbert and Burrow sign…let’s do the math here….Lamar at 52. ARod at 51. Wilson at 49. Seems the math looks fairly simple here.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I was under the assumption tag is average of top five players at the position.

I'm done trying to explain numbers to you 

I just gave you the numbers right there...and you still see it your way,

Why are you like that.  Facts right there and you still argue?   Why... it's impossible to have an educated conversation with someone that refuses to see facts. 

" I was under the impression...this is how I see it"

Dude...facts forget your fictional movie point of view ot what you think.  Facts and real numbers are what matter.

The arrogance that comes from your posts thinking you know more about $$ aspects than the people whose job it is representing both the players and the teams is just incredible. 

You are the best college scout, play caller and money guy all in one.   That's just great.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So after Herbert and Burrow sign…let’s do the math here….Lamar at 52. ARod at 51. Wilson at 49. Seems the math looks fairly simple here.

Yeah..  so let's do that math... why is the 2023 franchise tag # for QB only 32 mil?

I'll let you do that research as to why it's not higher?  

Anyone think the franchise tag will jump from 32 mil to 50 mil next year?

Anyone fail to see the logic in how that doesn't make sense?