6 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

IDK, he looked really nice when he played for the Rams his first few years. 

Can't tell if serious🤔

First 3 years with Rams, 3091 yards 13 tds 3.9 ave.

One of those seasons with a 3.2 ave.👎

11 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, I don't see him as a HOF player at all.  We're reaching a point where we're going to see players are getting in seemingly based on name.

I would like to hear why you think that.  The numbers are there.

Just to add some color to training camp from a non-provincial point of view -- here is a description of the Bengals and Joe Burrow a few days ago:
 

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The Bengals defense has dominated the offense so far in training camp, putting intense pressure on Burrow and the Bengals' quarterbacks, Jay Morrison and Paul Dehner Jr. of The Athletic reports.

...It can be frequent that the defense will be ahead of the offense at this time of year, but the way the imbalance has been described ("... most lopsided practice in a long time ...") is certainly disturbing.

 

12 hours ago, MillerTime said:

He is 13th all time in yards with a Super Bowl.

Actually he did not win a Super Bowl.  Colts won the year after he left.

9 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

IDK, he looked really nice when he played for the Rams his first few years. 

Maybe because I'm comparing he and James to Marshall Faulk and Laidanian Tomlinson, who were both way better and played at the same time/with some overlap. You're right Bettis likely deserves it.

5 minutes ago, devpool said:

Maybe because I'm comparing he and James to Marshall Faulk and Laidanian Tomlinson, who were both way better and played at the same time/with some overlap. You're right Bettis likely deserves it.

If you are gonna compare to Faulk and Tomlinson, then Thomas, Allen, Simpson and others are questionable to be hall of famers.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If you are gonna compare to Faulk and Tomlinson, then Thomas, Allen, Simpson and others are questionable to be hall of famers.

Bettis sure, he played closer to that era and already said he likely deserves to be in. But James most certainly should be compared to Faulk and Tomlinson, they played at the same time and should be the bar for the HOF for RBs. James had a lot of carries even being in manning offense. 

Why would you compare 3 guys from an entirely different era to Tomlinson and Faulk who pretty much ushered in the era of dual threat RBs? Wanna throw Steve van Buren in the conversation too? 

31 minutes ago, devpool said:

Bettis sure, he played closer to that era and already said he likely deserves to be in. But James most certainly should be compared to Faulk and Tomlinson, they played at the same time and should be the bar for the HOF for RBs. James had a lot of carries even being in manning offense. 

Why would you compare 3 guys from an entirely different era to Tomlinson and Faulk who pretty much ushered in the era of dual threat RBs? Wanna throw Steve van Buren in the conversation too? 

Thomas played 88-2000

Faulk played 94-2005

James played 99-2009

Faulk overlapped with James and Thomas pretty evenly.

Just because two absolute studs played alongside James, doesn’t mean he is not a HOF.

1 hour ago, Boy Hits Car said:

Just to add some color to training camp from a non-provincial point of view -- here is a description of the Bengals and Joe Burrow a few days ago:
 

 

From other things I read it sounds like Burrow doesn’t trust his knee yet. He’s throwing one legged passes sometimes instead of planting.

So if Howie is trying to get Sweat signed to an extension before a breakout season, what do we think that deal would look like?

On 8/6/2021 at 2:19 PM, Utebird said:

If it's " just practice," then the drop and the not running full speed doesn't matter either

Can't have it both ways when reagor does something good and say it's just practice and then when he makes a mistake draw any conclusions from it.

Im fine with ripping reagor it's the dismissal of anything positive that's tired.

It wasn't dismissed.  But it shouldn't be trumpeted as any kind of sign post of anything.  It was a nice catch, in a non-contact period, where the DB intentionally backed off.  But, it was mentioned that he looked 'fast' in that short clip and that's just an unsupportable conclusion from that clip.  

BTW, there's a huge difference between 'mistakes' and 'effort'.  I will always draw conclusions about a player when their effort at practice is in any way questioned by a coach.  Effort is what separates most of the NFL players from their talented counterparts that never stick around in the league.   So, I will mention what I feel is important.  But, the idea that not running full speed at practice doesn't matter is folly.  There are times that a practice can be done at less than half-speed.  BUT... generally, you play the way you practice.  And if a player is going at less than full speed in practice, there's a great danger that they will go at less than full speed in the games, or worse, that they can't function at full speed in a game because they haven't practiced at full speed.  There are 'mistakes'; and there are 'lapses'.    I always hope that the mistakes are made at full speed.  Because that's the speed the game is played, that's the speed they need to get used to and learn how to read and react at full speed.  And practice is the perfect place for those mistakes to happen, so they can be corrected. On the other hand, if he is 'lapsed', meaning either the mental effort or the physical effort isn't 100%, then that is worthy of criticism, whether it's a practice or a game, both are worthy of criticism.  If you want to interpret Sirianni's comment as less, that's fine.  But, if a coach questions effort in public, even just within ear shot of others at practice, that's (in my opinion) a major cause for concern.  It is not a death knell, but it is a concern.  

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So if Howie is trying to get Sweat signed to an extension before a breakout season, what do we think that deal would look like?

Dante Fowler and Haason Reddick got $6M per AAV on one-year deals; Takk McKinley was $4.25M.  Ogbah $7.5M, Clowney $8M

If Sweat were to sign an extension now I’d say 3 years, somewhere between $4.5 and 5.5M AAV.  

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So if Howie is trying to get Sweat signed to an extension before a breakout season, what do we think that deal would look like?

Slightly less than Carl Lawson (3 year, $45M). I’d guess around $13 APY

Get to work Howie 

2 hours ago, Utebird said:

Can't tell if serious🤔

First 3 years with Rams, 3091 yards 13 tds 3.9 ave.

One of those seasons with a 3.2 ave.👎

In the 90's a 3.9 avg is dam good when everyone knows your running the ball. Esp with how big the LBs and Safeties were in those days. Its not like today when everyone is smaller and faster. It was still hard hitting football. Me personally, Id take 4 yards every play. Maybe your too young to know the smash mouth football days and the avgs among his peers in that era of football. 

42 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So if Howie is trying to get Sweat signed to an extension before a breakout season, what do we think that deal would look like?

I am so aggressively opposed to signing people to extensions before anticipated breakout seasons.

If the breakout season is anticipated, the player and agent are building that into their demands.  Between how little you are actually saving and the precedent that players pout, sit out, and become problems when they outplay their contracts, there is so little upside to these early extensions.  As our history has shown, there will be 10 disappointments for every instance that you get a true meaningful cap saving steal.

There is a reason players almost never want to play out their contracts without early extensions.

Mailata, Goedert, Sweat…let them all play it out.  Collectively, they will be cheaper in January.  

20 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I am so aggressively opposed to signing people to extensions before anticipated breakout seasons.

If the breakout season is anticipated, the player and agent are building that into their demands.  Between how little you are actually saving and the precedent that players pout, sit out, and become problems when they outplay their contracts, there is so little upside to these early extensions.  As our history has shown, there will be 10 disappointments for every instance that you get a true meaningful cap saving steal.

There is a reason players almost never want to play out their contracts without early extensions.

Mailata, Goedert, Sweat…let them all play it out.  Collectively, they will be cheaper in January.  

Maybe it plays out that way, but more often than not players leave money on the table to sign early. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe it plays out that way, but more often than not players leave money on the table to sign early. 

 

An RB wearing number 83 is gross. 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

An RB wearing number 83 is gross. 

88 would be a cool look but that’s about it for the 80s

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

An RB wearing number 83 is gross. 

In due time maybe they change the rule so QBs can wear any number.

Imagine a QB wearing #76 or something like that...😄

9 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

In due time maybe they change the rule so QBs can wear any number.

Imagine a QB wearing #76 or something like that...😄

Gardner Minshew definitely would wear 69. 

58 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Get to work Howie 

The Eagles need offensive Tackle Depth. Dillard as  back up is the best option this team has currently. 

18 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

The Eagles need offensive Tackle Depth. Dillard as  back up is the best option this team has currently. 

Meh, they aren’t winning anything this year and they aren’t picking up his 5th year option. I’m not giving him away for free but if someone gives me a 4th I’m taking it over depth on a bad team. And he can’t even play anything else besides LT. Depth needs to have versatility.

54 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Gardner Minshew definitely would wear 69. 

Why?