12 minutes ago, Utebird said:

One can say that about any players, should Darren sproles be in the HOF because he consistently brought what he was being used for???

I'm not saying Bettis wasn't good, I'm not even saying I didn't like him, he was one of my favorite non eagle players.

I'm saying Im not sure he's a HOF back and if he is guys like Corey Dillon should be in.

I can say this bettis is more deserving of the HOF than troy Polomolu.

Again good player great guy very marketable played for USC and Steelers won a super bowl numbers don't match up with other safeties in or not in.

Why isn't Deron Cherry in the hall but Troy is???

Well the argument on Troy is he revolutionized the game, but he didn’t.  Heat seeking missile that too often had a broken fin.  Did have to game plan him when healthy. Not HOF to me.

But Bettis, I disagree about.  YPC is but one measurement for RBs.  Bettis was special.  He wasn’t going to break off an 80 yard run.  (Look at long runs on game stats to see how that impacts YPC).  When factoring out those long runs, Bettis 3.9 looks pretty good and add to that his career yards and TDs and he is definitely an HOF player.  I think if Dillon had the longevity healthy that Jerome had, he would definitely have been a HOF player.  

The RB I wonder about is Frank Gore. I would say absolutely a HOF RB. Hell, if nothing more, for the number of tree rings. 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I remember good old na brown. Right as i entered teenage years. I remember Chris t jones being built up with hype too. I feel his downfall was more due to injury if i remember correctly. 

Chris Jones.  So tragic.  Awesome talent.

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Well the argument on Troy is he revolutionized the game, but he didn’t.  Heat seeking missile that too often had a broken fin.  Did have to game plan him when healthy. Not HOF to me.

But Bettis, I disagree about.  YPC is but one measurement for RBs.  Bettis was special.  He wasn’t going to break off an 80 yard run.  (Look at long runs on game stats to see how that impacts YPC).  When factoring out those long runs, Bettis 3.9 looks pretty good and add to that his career yards and TDs and he is definitely an HOF player.  I think if Dillon had the longevity healthy that Jerome had, he would definitely have been a HOF player.  

The RB I wonder about is Frank Gore. I would say absolutely a HOF RB. Hell, if nothing more, for the number of tree rings. 

Not only that the fact he had multiple ACL injuries in college and has been able to put the numbers up and play as long as he has is pretty amazing. I get it’s not like the 80s or 90s when he had those acl surgeries but advancement in modern medicine with the ACL since he had his in the early 2000s 

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Chris Jones.  So tragic.  Awesome talent.

Chris T. Jones was on his way to being a stud.  It's a shame injuries took his career.

Imagine if Ben Smith and CTJ never got hurt.

Ok who was it? Bacarty you finally get someone to meet up with you? 

28 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Well the argument on Troy is he revolutionized the game, but he didn’t.  Heat seeking missile that too often had a broken fin.  Did have to game plan him when healthy. Not HOF to me.

But Bettis, I disagree about.  YPC is but one measurement for RBs.  Bettis was special.  He wasn’t going to break off an 80 yard run.  (Look at long runs on game stats to see how that impacts YPC).  When factoring out those long runs, Bettis 3.9 looks pretty good and add to that his career yards and TDs and he is definitely an HOF player.  I think if Dillon had the longevity healthy that Jerome had, he would definitely have been a HOF player.  

The RB I wonder about is Frank Gore. I would say absolutely a HOF RB. Hell, if nothing more, for the number of tree rings. 

Legacy wise Bettis owes a HUGE debt to Big Ben for tackling Nick Harper. Otherwise this would've been his last play:

 

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Ok who was it? Bacarty you finally get someone to meet up with you? 

Wentz washers fighting with Hurts huggers. The gangs wars are real 

 

Tyree Jackson still is a lottery ticket, but I think he deserves our attention. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Tyree Jackson still is a lottery ticket, but I think he deserves our attention. 

With Ertz still here he is a prototypical 3rd TE. No reason to cut him over Rodgers. Even with Ertz gone he’s still a prototypical 3rd TE. 

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

When i did some research on Milton Williams leading up to the draft and afterwards i kind of viewed him as a more athletic version of vinny curry type guy for the eagles. I think coming out he played more of a DT and curry was more pass rusher De/olb prospect. But i tend to think the eagles are going to use him where he can play DT and have him move out to DE. Similar to curry playing DE and at times moving into DT.  Just kind of flipped where they’ll move them at times along the line 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Tyree Jackson still is a lottery ticket, but I think he deserves our attention. 

Agree.  Of all the offseason future signings and UDFAs, he has me the most excited.  If his blocking is better than Ertz and he routes are almost equal to Rodgers, he should be out #3 TE.  

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

When i did some research on Milton Williams leading up to the draft and afterwards i kind of viewed him as a more athletic version of vinny curry type guy for the eagles. I think coming out he played more of a DT and curry was more pass rusher De/olb prospect. But i tend to think the eagles are going to use him where he can play DT and have him move out to DE. Similar to curry playing DE and at times moving into DT.  Just kind of flipped where they’ll move them at times along the line 

Given Curry replacement is what I tagged him early, glad to see the shared vision.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Given Curry replacement is what I tagged him early, glad to see the shared vision.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw it. I think he has a chance to be better as a player than curry just due to his overall athleticism if he develops right. Besides smith, he was my favorite player they took. Leading up to the draft listened to Sirius a lot and bunch of draft analysts believed he could sneak into the mid to late 2nd which got me onto researching him. I was hoping he’d be there in the third but didn’t expect it. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I remember good old na brown. Right as i entered teenage years. I remember Chris t jones being built up with hype too. I feel his downfall was more due to injury if i remember correctly. 

Yeah, Chris T. Jones was hyped a bit, but for good reason. He actually looked like a really nice player. He had a big game against the Lions at the Vet that one year he stood out. And then in the preseason the following year, he caught a touchdown pass against the Patriots, jumped up to celebrate, landed funny, limped off the field, and pretty much never played again after that. Damn shame.

36 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wentz washers fighting with Hurts huggers. The gangs wars are real 

The boards fascination with these bs pet names and endless drive to categorize everyone into extremes is the worst part of the board. 

57 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Chris T. Jones was on his way to being a stud.  It's a shame injuries took his career.

Imagine if Ben Smith and CTJ never got hurt.

Ben Smith is an even sadder story. That guy was a flat out stud in the making. I've said it countless times before, but I think it bears repeating, if only to inform Eagles fans who weren't aware of his history. By his second year, he started opposite Eric Allen, who was in his fourth year. And Smith was the better player. Then in a game against the Browns later in the year, after intercepting a pass that ended a record non-INT-throwing streak of Bernie Kosar, he tore up his knee. Done for the year. Came back the next year and was just another guy. Shipped off to the Broncos later on for a third round pick. I don't think he did much anywhere after that. That was a tragic injury.

19 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

The boards fascination with these bs pet names and endless drive to categorize everyone into extremes is the worst part of the board. 

I’m just making fun of both sides for using them in that post

i give the board credit we haven’t come up with watson names like the watson wet dreamers, watson wishers or watson worriers 

20 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m just making fun of both sides for using them in that post

You agnostic archetype 

Restricted free agents worth tendering, depending on 2021 production

RFAs are players with only three accrued seasons with expiring contracts. If the team tenders them, they will get a modest bump in pay for one season, before becoming unrestricted free agents. 

 

1. LB Alex Singleton (27)
2. LB T.J. Edwards (24)
3. OL Nate Herbig (23)
4. WR Travis Fulgham (25)
5. WR Greg Ward (26)
6. RB Boston Scott (26)

Exclusive rights free agents

ERFAs are players with only two accrued seasons with expiring contracts. The team can opt to keep them for an additional year at the end of the season, and continue to pay them peanuts.

 

1. OG Sua Opeta (24)
2. CB Michael Jacquet (24)
3. C Luke Juriga (24)
4. S Elijah Riley (23)
5. OT Brett Toth (24)
6. DT Raequan Williams (24

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You agnostic archetype 

29 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Restricted free agents worth tendering, depending on 2021 production

RFAs are players with only three accrued seasons with expiring contracts. If the team tenders them, they will get a modest bump in pay for one season, before becoming unrestricted free agents. 

 

1. LB Alex Singleton (27)
2. LB T.J. Edwards (24)
3. OL Nate Herbig (23)
4. WR Travis Fulgham (25)
5. WR Greg Ward (26)
6. RB Boston Scott (26)

Exclusive rights free agents

ERFAs are players with only two accrued seasons with expiring contracts. The team can opt to keep them for an additional year at the end of the season, and continue to pay them peanuts.

 

1. OG Sua Opeta (24)
2. CB Michael Jacquet (24)
3. C Luke Juriga (24)
4. S Elijah Riley (23)
5. OT Brett Toth (24)
6. DT Raequan Williams (24

Disagree on the RFA’s. Some of those guys aren’t worth over $2M for one year (Edwards, Fulgham (not yet), Scott). They can also just not tender them and re-sign them to cheaper deals 

Original round RFAs?

6 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Hurts was not throwing well at all. a lot of bad position balls there. Not leading the rec, balls underthrown which the recs made it look better with a nice hands catch. Was not impressed. 

Dave said Nick was looking for 4 things out of his style QB. Leadership and ability to make plays Hurts has. However I have not seen  the other two. Decision making and Accuracy. 

Like I said before if intangibles is you QBs best trait you need another QB. Accuracy and decision making is far more important than any of that Playmaking leadership stuff. If a QB can’t throw you have problems 

Tyree Jackson for Nasty Nate.