1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

C'mon IP, it was not "his dream" to make an NFL team at 34 years old as a TE. That's ridiculous. 

His dream is to play professional sports. What difference does it make how old he is? 

3 minutes ago, What The F said:

Dillard was touted as a beast coming out of college and one of the steals of the draft. All the physical tools in the world to dominate. But he doesnt have it between the ears. If Andrews could have kept his head straight he would be a hall of famer. But no. a few very good years then just walked away.  Point being, both with immense physical talent but heart/brain just arent in it. 

 

That just isn't true. Dillard came out of college as someone who should be a good pass blocker due to his foot work but left much to be desired as a run blocker.  He wasn't this physically dominant tackle. 

 

We've seen no evidence whatsoever of Dillard as a pro to be an extremely talented and dominant player. For 3 years all we have seen is him get physically dominated in games and then reports of him getting physically dominated in practices. 

 

Shawn Andrews was out of this world dominant until he started having back issues then lost all desire to play football. Dillard never showed any glimpses of that talent that Andrews had. 

Just now, What The F said:

Dillard was touted as a beast coming out of college and one of the steals of the draft. All the physical tools in the world to dominate. But he doesnt have it between the ears. If Andrews could have kept his head straight he would be a hall of famer. But no. a few very good years then just walked away.  Point being, both with immense physical talent but heart/brain just arent in it. 

He was diagnosed with bi polar, he was mentally ill, it's a real thing.

I'm glad he got the help he needed, if he would have walked away due to concussions or messed up knees no one would call him weak minded, bit since it's bi polar people think he somehow is weak 

To be able to reach the level he did while having bi polar takes a lot, nothing but respect and compassion for Andrews from me 

Where as Dillard, if he were a beast in college he wouldn't have dropped, scouts questioned his heart and his ability in the run  game since wash st passed so much, the eagles didn't question any of that though because they didn't scout him, maybe if they had they wouldn't have drafted him.

I'm not sure dillards heart is in it and even if it were in not sure it would be enough to over come his limitations, the dude can't anchor, he's make Osi look like sand paper 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Sad you had to explain the comparison. But not surprising.  

Sad you don't know what your talking about but not surprising

I just googled "Shawn Andrews.” It returned the guy who wanted to throw the house party in Dazed and Confused.

The Eagles’ Andrews went from the verge of "best ever” to almost completely forgotten. Crazy

8 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I mean we'll see what happens when the game matters. But the opposite end would be Jay Cutler. Good passing skills but an equally horrible leader. I'm more optimistic now about Hurts than I was a month ago. September and onwards will tell the story. 

Jay Cutler was Jeff George without a cool mustache.

Do people just forget how dominant Shawn Andrews was? He was like 2011 Jason Peters running out there tossing grown men to the ground like they were children. 

 

Dillard was never that.  He never even hinted of that.  Instead it was/is Dillard being tossed to the ground like he's a child. 

48 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

You do know Steve Young started 6 games with Walsh as his head coach right? 

Yeah and played how many seasons for him? I can’t believe I’m even trying to discuss this with you 

31 minutes ago, What The F said:

Dillard in ways reminds me of Shawn Andrews. 

Shawn Andrew’s was insanely talented. 

5 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Yeah and played how many seasons for him? I can’t believe I’m even trying to discuss this with you 

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39 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don't have sympathy for anyone.  The NFL is a tough business and there is always someone else drafted or brought in to take your spot.  I defend Reagor and Dillard a lot on here, but it's totally up to them if they're going to be players or not.  Dillard will apparently be coming off the bench at this point; if/when he's called upon (Mailata typically misses a bit of time because of his back) it's his job to perform -- if he can't, then down the road he goes.

I don't remember mailata missing time last season for his back, just the concussion on the cheap shot 

37 minutes ago, What The F said:

Dillard in ways reminds me of Shawn Andrews. 

Without the talent.

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Do people just forget how dominant Shawn Andrews was? He was like 2011 Jason Peters running out there tossing grown men to the ground like they were children. 

 

Dillard was never that.  He never even hinted of that.  Instead it was/is Dillard being tossed to the ground like he's a child. 

Apparently.

Shawn Andrews for 2 seasons had the best seasons by an eagles OG I've ever seen 

Mathis and Brookes are up there but neither were as dominant as Andrews in both phases, run blocking pass blocking from about 2005-2007 he was a legit beast 

 

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Apparently.

Shawn Andrews for 2 seasons had the best seasons by an eagles OG I've ever seen 

Mathis and Brookes are up there but neither were as dominant as Andrews in both phases, run blocking pass blocking from about 2005-2007 he was a legit beast 

 

I still can’t believe the Eagles brought in his brother to appease him… without knowing the two didn’t get along.

24 minutes ago, What The F said:

Dillard was touted as a beast coming out of college and one of the steals of the draft. All the physical tools in the world to dominate. But he doesnt have it between the ears. If Andrews could have kept his head straight he would be a hall of famer. But no. a few very good years then just walked away.  Point being, both with immense physical talent but heart/brain just arent in it. 

Andrews did have a significant back issue.  He also was a dominant player.  Dillard has not shown near the talent on the field.  He doesn't look like he has the physical ability necessary to anchor against the pass rush.  

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

wont hear me argue that. I just said that he was the greatest offensive minded/QB developer HC's in history 

He's turned trash into gold numerous times (I actually think MCnabb would of sucked else where) while Belichek and Walsh, and a bunch others have proven they are EXTREMELY QB dependent where Reid was not

Please list all the QB's Andy Reid developed.  McNabb was always a 60% passer in his career.  He had a spike to 64% with TO, but was always the same.  Tell us how he developed the QB"s he drafted.  Kevin Kolb, AJ Feely, Mike Kafka ??  With his other teams, he had Brett Favre ( Reid did not become the QB coach until 5 years into Favre's tenure in Green Bay)  and has Patrick Mahommes.  

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Shawn Andrews for 2 seasons had the best seasons by an eagles OG I've ever seen 

Have you watched Brandon Brooks play ??

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Have you watched Brandon Brooks play ??

He’s not prime Shawn Andrews. "Possible best ever” is not an exaggeration.

1 minute ago, SB52 said:

I still can’t believe the Eagles brought in his brother to appease him… without knowing the two didn’t get along.

I didn't know they didn't get a long.☹️

Stacey was a waste of space though.

I think at that point Reid and co were desperate to try anything to help Andrews out because he was so good.

Bi polar is a tough disease and it's too bad it led to Andrews promising career ending.

I have know doubt he would have been a HOF other wise.

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Have you watched Brandon Brooks play ??

Nope never, when I watch eagles games I block him out, I pretend Instead that he's a bacon cheeseburger 🍔

Brooks is good, elite pass protector and a pretty good run blocker.

Andrews was an elite run blocker and dominant pass blocker who was a good enough athlete he could slide out to RT or LT.

Brookes is great Andrews in my opinion was better 

All this talk of offensive genius and people are forgetting the obvious answer. 
 

Chip Kelly. 

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Too bad that doesnt make him a better qb

17 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Please list all the QB's Andy Reid developed.  McNabb was always a 60% passer in his career.  He had a spike to 64% with TO, but was always the same.  Tell us how he developed the QB"s he drafted.  Kevin Kolb, AJ Feely, Mike Kafka ??  With his other teams, he had Brett Favre ( Reid did not become the QB coach until 5 years into Favre's tenure in Green Bay)  and has Patrick Mahommes.  

McNabb wasn't a polished passer getting McNabb to 60% was a miraculous feat.

Reid developed AJ feeley and won games with him, then turned that into a high pick in a trade 

He won a playoff game with an old over the hill Garcia.

He developed kolb enough that he was able to trade him for a good pick.

Kafka come on now...

Then he took Vick and molded him into a respectable passer.

In KC he took Alex Smith and got him going.

At green bay he worked with brunell and Matt hasselbeck.

And now he's got Mahomes whom Reid picked.

Reid has a pretty good track record.

Walsh had Montana and Rice.

I think it's a fair debate to suggest Reid might have been better at developing qbs than Walsh though one could make the case for Walsh as well as he won 3 super bowls with Montana whom I would rank as the GOAT.

Hahahaha

19 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Have you watched Brandon Brooks play ??

Andrews, at his best, was better than Brooks at his.