6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Rodgers has done more with less than what the eagles have.

He's still a top 3 qb in the league.

Having said not sure the resources it would take to get him would be worth a better chance at maybe 1 super bowl.

Nope. He will not be here.

11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

You don't think he would light it up with Ertz, Dallas, and the WR? Won't happen, but I had to think about it cause I bet he would. I also think he's a **** and don't want him as an FYI.

He wouldn't fall on his face but I don't think its a good enough or deep enough roster to be a legitimate SB contender. I think they may be able to be a NFCCG contender tops if everyone stays healthy along the lines. I don't think anyone on this roster is currently anywhere near Davante Adams level, and Aaron Jones is better than Sanders. 

46 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Andy hall

No, not Andy Hall...isn't that the guy who went to play baseball instead?

 

This is Andy Hall

10 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

As someone who has played football and coached at the JH and HS level, the impact of a QB who is a true leader that the team respects and wants to play for can't be understated.

As someone who has played football, the negative impact of a QB who struggles to complete passes regularly can't be understated

 

53 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Andy hall

Not sure why he deleted his post, but is it Chad Henne ??

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He wouldn't fall on his face but I don't think its a good enough or deep enough roster to be a legitimate SB contender. I think they may be able to be a NFCCG contender tops if everyone stays healthy along the lines. I don't think anyone on this roster is currently anywhere near Davante Adams level, and Aaron Jones is better than Sanders. 

and when he loses in the playoffs he'll throw Nick under the bus along with everybody else except himself

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Not sure why he deleted his post, but is it Chad Henne ??

Drew Henson.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Not sure why he deleted his post, but is it Chad Henne ??

It was actually him, but then he remembered he's not supposed to post personal information online.

So Hurts can be a great motivational speaker and speak at leadership groups.  Let's see if he can be a good QB on the field.

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Drew Henson.

Correct.  I googled his name and that picture pops up.  Now, why the heck did he post it ??  That dude is a wierdo.

Just now, Khani1 said:

So Hurts can be a great motivational speaker and speak at leadership groups.  Let's see if he can be a good QB on the field.

The fact that the vast majority of Hurts news that comes out is still about his leadership, work ethic, etc even after that's all we heard prior to camp should be telling.

But no, no problems here. Move along.

Agendas. Detmer. Lies. Hater.

Just now, downundermike said:

Correct.  I googled his name and that picture pops up.  Now, why the heck did he post it ??  That dude is a wierdo.

Something to do with Jalen Hurts being benched for Tua and how it's similar to Henson being benched for Brady. I don't see how it helps his case in supporting Hurts though...

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

The fact that the vast majority of Hurts news that comes out is still about his leadership, work ethic, etc even after that's all we heard prior to camp should be telling.

But no, no problems here. Move along.

Agendas. Detmer. Lies. Hater.

I have no agenda or bias.  I loved Carson.  Then I hated him.  If you can prove it on the field, that is all I care about.  I am rooting for Hurts to be the guy and I have stated that many times.  

4 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Something to do with Jalen Hurts being benched for Tua and how it's similar to Henson being benched for Brady. I don't see how it helps his case in supporting Hurts though...

Not sure how those are comparable.  I hope Hurts does not turn out like Drew Henson, but, Henson did have a higher completion percentage.

 

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

I have no agenda or bias.  I loved Carson.  Then I hated him.  If you can prove it on the field, that is all I care about.  I am rooting for Hurts to be the guy and I have stated that many times.  

I'm not accusing you, lol. I'm pointing out that anyone who isn't sold on Hurts gets the cave dwellers in a bad mood. I was being sarcastic.

Just now, Swoop said:

I'm not accusing you, lol. I'm pointing out that anyone who isn't sold on Hurts gets the cave dwellers in a bad mood. I was being sarcastic.

My bad, I didn't pick up on it lol.

I think it's evident most of us are in our respective corners when it comes to Hurts.  Now we're getting closer to Week 1 against ATL -- and the start of people spinning the actual results to fit their own narratives; it will be like 20 people looking at a car wreck and giving divergent witness statements to police.

I'll try to keep my expectations consistent through the season:

62% comp

2:1 TD/INT

15% rushing attempts to pass attempts

Win more games in the 4th quarter than lose (that will be subjective)

2 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Something to do with Jalen Hurts being benched for Tua and how it's similar to Henson being benched for Brady. I don't see how it helps his case in supporting Hurts though...

It's interesting to look back at that.

I believe...could be inaccurate here...that Brady and Henson were in a very bizarre QB rotation where each took a half.  First of all...what the hell?  Second of all...I think Brady eventually outshined him and they put that to bed.  Again, I'm being too lazy to google it and verity.

It would be interesting to see what QB's went on to have success as pro's after losing jobs in college.  Joe Burrow couldn't beat out Dwayne Haskins and had to transfer to LSU.  Not that the book is written on him yet, but lots of high end QB's transfer and are drafted highly.  Actually losing the job, as Hurts did, is a bit more unique.

13 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Let's talk WR for just a second.  Rank according to a few things...just the way I see it.

Upside:

1. Smith 2t. Reagor/Watkins 4t. Fulgham/Hightower 6. Ward 7. JJAW

Stand in the right place reliability/safety net for coaches:

1. Ward  2. Smith  3. Watkins 4. Reagor 5. Fulgham 6. Hightower 7. JJAW

Best right now:

1. Smith 2t. Reagor/Watkins 4. Ward 5. Fulgham 6. Hightower 7. JJAW

 

Now here's the complicating factor, to be devil's advocate: Smith/Reagor/Watkins/Hightower/Ward....I could be wrong, but I don't think any of them are going to be running down the field on kickoff or punt coverage making plays.  All are either starting or tiny and frail.  Fulgham and JJAW might be able to handle that, which could potentially help them to cling to the roster.

Tiny or frail?  Most DBs play STs.  There is not a WR not named Smith on the team this is smaller than Scott, Maddox, Arnold and Seymour.  Most are at least as big as Slay, McPherson, Hill, Countess.  Nelson and James are smaller than Reagor and Adams, who only makes the team if he plays superior STs and Epps are the same size.  Only Jacquet and the remaining Ss are over 200 and none come close to JJAW and Fulgham in size.  The DBs play on coverage teams but one of the best last year was Rodgers, similar in size to JJAW.  The five you listed all have experience in the return game. (Cue the Ward sucks as a PR, he has less than two years experience at this point).  

Based on what I have read and watched, I suspect the WRs are Smith and Reagor starting.  We will see plays for Quez, probably at Z so let’s say 1. Smith 2. Reagor 3. Watkins 4. Ward 5t JJAW and Fulgham 6. Patton and Hightower. 7 Michel and Ausbon 8 Seeya Butler.   6 and 7 matter because at least one of those is likely for the PS.  Now all this is speculative.  Watkins may supplant Reagor at 2 but we need to see more of him, especially over the middle.  The longer throws to Ward caught my attention this week.  Freed of the safety valve role, I think we see more depth from him this year.  Not near as fast as Reagor which is why I have Reagor ahead of him on the depth chart.  If he is not starting we will see more of him on STs. No idea if he can tackle but based on what we have seen from him so far, I think he will put effort into anything that might keep him in the league.  No height in that first four but hardly midgets. 5’11” and 6’. Ward at 5’11” is the same weight as Hightower.  But Hightower is 6’2”.  Neither can block very well but they do try.  Fulgham gets a little handsy on blocks.  He and Hightower are both body catchers.  JJAW, Fulgham and Hightower are inconsistent in catching. JJAW is by far the best blocker of the group. Fulgham has the quickness to run slot routes but he is no better than JJAW in running routes.  I do think Sirianni will keep a taller bigger WR who is not a TE on the roster but it is anybody’s guess who that will be at this point. Patton has age against him but he has worked from camp body to some level of consideration.  Hightower needs to heal and get on the field.

Upside?  I think all the WRs have upside.  We have seen Ward, a WR for three years now and also 26, only for a season and a third.  That third of a season he was paired with a very banged up Agholor and then two of the worst WRs I can remember.  One of which was a poster child for banana routes. Last year he was the safety valve receiver on short routes. I am not sure we have seen his best yet but that probably comes this year.  Fulgham needs to figure out how to catch lightning in a bottle again and make it permanent, if possible.  He is basically a street free agent given a chance and not much younger than Ward.   Same with Hightower.  Thing that gets me with Hightower is his difficulty tracking the ball at times.  Not sure that can be learned. Boise State is so painful to watch with that blue field that I have difficulty evaluating their players.  For him, upside is the biggest question mark.  He was practically Agholor/JJAW bad as a rookie catching the ball.  Slant seems to be his best route and never really used in that last year.  His change of speed that I saw in college isn’t DJax good but the best I saw on the team since DJax left the first time. That was a staple move for TO too, so maybe potential but the first ability is availability. Hightower is older given he is only in his second year. Same age as Fulgham. JJAW?  Anything at this point may be a miracle.  Reports are that he and JJAW are still struggling with separation.  Not a surprise because contested catches was his game. Placement and boxing out are too.  Healthy, Jeffery as a wizard at that.  Perhaps Sirianni can make that work. Very comparable in size and speed to Pascal, although Pascal is a bit more agile. But for contrast, he had a 34 vertical, Reagor, who is 3” shorter, had a 42 so Reagor can play five inches taller than JJAW.  Fish or cut bait battle for all of them with the most likely of the back ups to make the team at this point being probably Ward.  Anything can happen in the next month. After all, the HC and Passing Game Coordinator (such an ingrained position at this point can we use PGC and everyone will understand the meaning) were both WR position coaches.  Interesting tidbit, Johnson was a position coach for Ward for one season at UH.  Never hurts (yeah, pun intended) to know the QB coach. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would love for someone to answer who was the best at developing punters. Underrated and under appreciated position 

Australia. 

38 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Someone just asked me if the Eagles D is as good as people are saying and if the WR/TE have talent and depth if Rodgers would win a SB with the team this year instead of the Watson rumors. I don't see the Eagles as a destination and I wouldn't trade high assets for him at his age, but I had to think about it. 

If the Oline stayed healthy I think we could at least be a contender with Rodgers. I don't think the defense is there yet but if everyone stayed healthy then Rodgers would just have to win a shootout

Packers wouldn't let him go though. He set the league on fire last year and very well could do the same this year

Rodgers wants more power and I just don't see Howie letting that happen so I really doubt he'd come here

Just now, Mike030270 said:

If the Oline stayed healthy I think we could at least be a contender with Rodgers. I don't think the defense is there yet but if everyone stayed healthy then Rodgers would just have to win a shootout

Packers wouldn't let him go though. He set the league on fire last year and very well could do the same this year

Rodgers wants more power and I just don't see Howie letting that happen so I really doubt he'd come here

Agree. It was a fun distraction for me when asked vs current events or Eagles stuff that has been talked about over and over.

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Australia. 

 

During the Sav Rocca years there was a guy near my section that every game when he came out to punt the guy would yell

 

It's Saaaaaaaaaaav Roccaaaaaaaa! 

 

It's all I think about anytime he comes up. 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Agree. It was a fun distraction for me when asked vs current events or Eagles stuff that has been talked about over and over.

I think it's fun as well. Pretty sure it was brought up back when Peyton was looking around where to go

I think Packers are letting Rodgers have his way now. Although I saw that he wants to bring back Clay and I don't think that's a good idea

Don't know how long he'll stay in the league. He's more mobile than Brady but doesn't get hurt

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He's more mobile than Brady but doesn't get hurt

He has only missed games due to injury in 2 of 13 seasons since he became the starter.