Guys, I have been waiting, and now I am disappointed in you all.

Unless I missed it, NOT ONE CAMPBELLS CHUNCKY SOUP JOKE.

18 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Love Lane.

Love his remarks about competitive pride which has been a message from Nick since day one 

I haven't been one to make fun of the Rick paper scissors in the past 

But it seems odd to me that a coaching staff that has been preaching competition all summer would show up and be so uncompetitive in a pre season game 

My only explanation would be that the coaches didn't see the pre season game as a competitive exercise and instead used it purely as an evaluative tool.

The alternative would be that they either just suck or don't care?

 

 

 

It's possible they wanted to see how many of the back ups could effectively fill in as starters.  I don't think it's a matter of not caring.  They're not playing to win. The coaches should be looking to evaluate and to have players get experience.  I think they definitely want the team to compete but it's clear there's a lack of talent.  

What’s Lane gonna say? "We benched our three elite linemen, so of course the OL sucked and decimated the rest of our offense that was playing with a backup QB.”

I’m glad he wants to hold scrubs accountable for their play, but that doesn’t make it more reasonable to expect them to play well against another team’s starters. 

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I agree he has had really one great season as a coach.  He has also had Hoyer, Beatherd, and Mullens as starting QBs.  He is 24-8 with Garropalo as a starter.  I mean there's a good argument that Doug did more with less talent. 

 

That's fair.  Kinda proves my point that maybe Kyle is a little over rated.  Whenever he's talked about its almost like he's considered royalty or something.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The Eagles won 4 games last season -- 3 of those wins were against DiNucci, Mullens, and Taysom Hill.  It's pretty much a given the team lacks depth.  I have them going 7-10 this season and I might be the most optimistic poster on the board. 

They don't even really have depth at TE because Ertz could be gone tomorrow; even if he's here which Ertz will we get? 

It's called a REBUILD. I mean this isn't rocket science, sure, if everything goes perfect they might squeeze into the playoffs, but more realistically, 5-12 is more likely.

So player evaluation, especially the younger players who will have to be waived before they can be put on the PS, is essential this preseason.

And player development, which is why the only starters who played were the three inexperienced WRs who need the reps.

As far as being ready for the season, they have 2 scrimmages, another game and three weeks before the regular season starts. 10 snaps in this game would make little difference.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

It's called a REBUILD. I mean this isn't rocket science, sure, if everything goes perfect they might squeeze into the playoffs, but more realistically, 5-12 is more likely.

So player evaluation, especially the younger players who will have to be waived before they can be put on the PS, is essential this preseason.

And player development, which is why the only starters who played were the three inexperienced WRs who need the reps.

As far as being ready for the season, they have 2 scrimmages, another game and three weeks before the regular season starts. 10 snaps in this game would make little difference.

Why is it a rebuild?

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Why is it a rebuild?

Because Doug blew it

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

The Eagles won 4 games last season -- 3 of those wins were against DiNucci, Mullens, and Taysom Hill.  It's pretty much a given the team lacks depth.  I have them going 7-10 this season and I might be the most optimistic poster on the board. 

They don't even really have depth at TE because Ertz could be gone tomorrow; even if he's here which Ertz will we get? 

Honestly Im not trying to sound like a negative guy here but I have the Eagles winning 4-5 games. 
 

Aside from the lack of depth (I may get killed for this) Sirianni already has me thinking he’s in over his head. Sure I’m probably rushing judgment but something doesn’t seem right to me with Sirianni. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

In fairness he had bad qbs until he got Jimmy G. And one year Jimmy g tore his ACL and another he missed a majority of the season (2020). The one year Jimmy G stayed healthy they got to a super bowl. 

2017– beathard started 5, hoyer started 6. Jimmy g started 5 and went 5-0

2018– Jimmy g started 3 then beathard and Mullens started the other 13

2019– Jimmy g started all 16 and got to the super bowl 

2020– beathard and Mullens started 10 and Jimmy g 6

shanahan’s record with Jimmy G is 22-8 and averages 28.3 ppg in his starts. I don’t think Jimmy G is great by any means but give him a solid to good QB and shanahan will get the most out of them. Beathard and mullens are just freaking awful 

I agree but he has Jimmy now and Lance in the wings.  No more excuses.  He needs to win.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Because Doug blew it

Howie. 

Just now, Allhaildawk said:

Howie. 

Joe Douglas

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Why is it a rebuild?

Howie, Lurie…I mean what can you point to that even shows their ready to at least be competitive? 

It's a rebuild b/c that's what you do when a contender gets too old, you start dumping players and adding youth.

Won't surprise me if both Ertz and Dillard are gone by September for 2 more draft picks.

And this season is likely to be one long audition with players shuffling in and out as Howie raids other teams' practice squads.

 

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

It's a rebuild b/c that's what you do when a contender gets too old, you start dumping players and adding youth.

Won't surprise me if both Ertz and Dillard are gone by September for 2 more draft picks.

And this season is likely to be one long audition with players shuffling in and out as Howie raids other teams' practice squads.

 

But we had drafts and free agency to add players. Why is this roster in need of a rebuild? Did we draft and sign the wrong ones?

3 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Howie, Lurie…I mean what can you point to that even shows their ready to at least be competitive? 

You’ll catch up. 

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It's a rebuild b/c that's what you do when a contender gets too old, you start dumping players and adding youth.

Won't surprise me if both Ertz and Dillard are gone by September for 2 more draft picks.

And this season is likely to be one long audition with players shuffling in and out as Howie raids other teams' practice squads.

 

We know it’s bad when you are expecting a 5 win season…

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It's called a REBUILD.

 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Why is it a rebuild?

 

Multiple years of bad drafting.  When you have 26 players selected over 4 drafts, and have 5 starters and zero depth guys to show for it, you are always rebuilding.

When 16 of those guys are no longer on the roster, and several others time appears to be short, that is not good, and the reason you are forced to rebuild.

Teams that draft well can reload, we are having to build from the foundation up.

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Sirrianni has said that the joint practice Reps are more important to him and his players than pre season.

If thats the way they feel and they are going to mail it in for a pre season game then why charge fans to watch that mess.

Lurie is stealing from his fan base by putting that product on a pre season field and asking people to actual spend money to watch it.

Hopefully the joint practices with the jets have some juice because I don't think that ore season game did anything to get any one ready other than maybe singleton.

The WRs played a ton but the QB play was so bad I guess it was just route practice???

I mean does any fan who pays to go see preseason games think it's going to be a great game?

I'd hope most fans know it will be a bad, sloppy game. It's basically a glorified practice.  I watched the 1st half of the game and it seemed awful quiet even at the start of the game when they got 1st downs.  Was there many fans even there at the game? I'm not sure.

2 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Honestly Im not trying to sound like a negative guy here but I have the Eagles winning 4-5 games. 
 

Aside from the lack of depth (I may get killed for this) Sirianni already has me thinking he’s in over his head. Sure I’m probably rushing judgment but something doesn’t seem right to me with Sirianni. 

Depends on your expectations.  4-5 wins would be consistent with last season.  From what little I've seen of Sirianni he seems like a good teacher and a personable guy.  He obviously doesn't want to push the veteran players very hard, but I think he understands most (if not all) of them will be gone in a couple of years.

What is needed is alignment with Eagles brass.  If Lurie, Howie, and Nick all see the team is in need of a retool and an influx of younger players then I would assume Sirianni will get some latitude.  The jump from OC to head coach is really dependent on developing an overall game plan, setting the depth chart properly, and making the right decisions at crucial times in games -- dumb decisions by head coaches lose games.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It's a rebuild b/c that's what you do when a contender gets too old, you start dumping players and adding youth.

Won't surprise me if both Ertz and Dillard are gone by September for 2 more draft picks.

And this season is likely to be one long audition with players shuffling in and out as Howie raids other teams' practice squads.

 

You add youth in every draft, but as I illustrated below, the picks have been bad, and all of that youth is already gone.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Multiple years of bad drafting.  When you have 26 players selected over 4 drafts, and have 5 starters and zero depth guys to show for it, you are always rebuilding.

When 16 of those guys are no longer on the roster, and several others time appears to be short, that is not good, and the reason you are forced to rebuild.

Teams that draft well can reload, we are having to build from the foundation up.

 

7 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I agree but he has Jimmy now and Lance in the wings.  No more excuses.  He needs to win.

I frankly don’t think lance is close to being ready to be a high caliber starter. I like him especially cause ive seen shanahan get there most out of cousins, Ryan and Jimmy g.  i believe they kept Jimmy g instead of getting draft comp and a ton of cap space to roll over into 2022 cause they knew lance wasn’t ready 

 

We missed on some, traded a bunch of picks to win now, and had a coaching staff that wasn't good at developing players.

Water under the bridge. Got the SB, live with the lumps. Now we're in the next chapter of the "never ending story."

Right now we're seeing which kids are keepers and which are dubious.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

I feel for the guy. He looked like he was finally becoming a player

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Beats me. I’m sure we’ll find out in a few weeks and the ITYSs will fly. 

 

And yet, we keep coming back.

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It's a rebuild b/c that's what you do when a contender gets too old, you start dumping players and adding youth.

Won't surprise me if both Ertz and Dillard are gone by September for 2 more draft picks.

And this season is likely to be one long audition with players shuffling in and out as Howie raids other teams' practice squads.

 

Dillard isn't old, he's a missed draft pick by your uncle Howie