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This is why game reps are needed, and mean more than joint practice reps.

 

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    Just some random comments for people who didn't watch the game and have no intention to do so. I find myself being more annoyed at the result of the game than I probably should. It's ridiculous t

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5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

I don't know if this is supposed to be encouraging or not.   Your WRs shouldn't require 7 seconds to break free, and/or your QB can't hang on to the ball that long to wait for them to break free.   Meanwhile, it's nice that the OL held up for that long... but that also doesn't seem very real to a game situation.   But, it's nice that he didn't tuck it and run.   Plusses and minuses.  

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1 minute ago, downundermike said:

This is why game reps are needed, and mean more than joint practice reps.

 

So letting the play continue to allow further evaluation is a bad thing? 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

This is why game reps are needed, and mean more than joint practice reps.

 

yup.  I suspect he's going to take some hits early in the year on plays that he was able to make during practice, because they are allowing him to do it without the game reps.  

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

So letting the play continue to allow further evaluation is a bad thing? 

Nope.  The exclusion of game reps to bring the pendulum back to where it needs to be is the problem.  The practices are great.  No argument there.   The use of the non-tackling practices to the exclusion of preseason games, or even full-contact practices is the issue, at least for me.

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

So letting the play continue to allow further evaluation is a bad thing? 

Not saying the evaluation is a bad thing, but need to take that learning, and apply it in a game, when the pass rush does not have to hold up.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't know if this is supposed to be encouraging or not.   Your WRs shouldn't require 7 seconds to break free, and/or your QB can't hang on to the ball that long to wait for them to break free.   Meanwhile, it's nice that the OL held up for that long... but that also doesn't seem very real to a game situation.   But, it's nice that he didn't tuck it and run.   Plusses and minuses.  

I don't know if the O-line is actually holding up for 7 seconds. It's been noted yesterday Sirianni was telling him to get the ball out faster and if it was a game, the D-line isn't going to let up and casually run by the QB. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

He looked bad in the game but overall Flacco has had a good camp recently. Still meh about the signing/contract but I do think he's a good backup still. 

Training Camp is already over. 15 days till the NFL season starts. 

I can see Hargrave having a big year, between dings and adjusting to a new role, he still had a solid first season.

He was built for a penetrating 4-3 system, his talents were somewhat hidden in the Steelers' scheme.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't know if the O-line is actually holding up for 7 seconds. It's been noted yesterday Sirianni was telling him to get the ball out faster and if it was a game, the D-line isn't going to let up and casually run by the QB. 

Would be nice to have Hurts get some game reps on Friday... 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Would be nice to have Hurts get some game reps on Friday... 

He needs it but I doubt he will. And when the regular season comes, all these plays would be for nothing because he will just tuck and run in similar situations. 

23 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

It’s also not that Dillard isn’t winning reps..he’s getting put on his back…a lot. You would hope they put some wins out there for Dillard to increase his value but if he’s not winning or even looking good that’s hard to do.

The Philly media is not going to do that. 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

yup.  I suspect he's going to take some hits early in the year on plays that he was able to make during practice, because they are allowing him to do it without the game reps.  

I do think they call plays dead when there's a sack.  They probably need to work on making the time to throw as short as possible.  

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I do think they call plays dead when there's a sack.  They probably need to work on making the time to throw as short as possible.  

It depends on the drill but a lot of the time they don't and go through the rep

 

25 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Looking ahead, Gainwell could be a part of the decision-making process regarding a Sanders contract extension.  If he looks like fellow Memphians, Pollard and Gibson, it may make sense to let Sanders walk.

200 pound back (Gainwell) is a lot different than a 215 pound back (Sanders).  We saw some of that with Scott (203 pounds, albeit on a 5’6” frame) trying to fill in for Sanders last year.  Except for Howard (Holyfield won’t stick), the Eagles have a lot of speed in the backfield.   (All the rest are sub 4.5 speedsters). 

Now the interesting thing for me is 222 lbs Howard put up 16 reps at the combine, that is WR strength and doesn’t suggest a short yardage back.  Boobie put up 20.  Nothing on Gainwell obviously.  (Only 40, short shuttle and 3 cone at his pro day).  Now Scott wasn’t invited to the Combine but check this out from his school results and pro day. Per a sleeper report I found on him, he power cleans 370, benches 425 and squatted 625.  They put up Barkley’s results for comparison.  The little guy has speed and strength.  

https://www.playerprofiler.com/article/boston-scott-advanced-stats-metrics-analytics-nfl-draft-profile/

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9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

200 pound back (Gainwell) is a lot different than a 215 pound back (Sanders).  We saw some of that with Scott (203 pounds, albeit on a 5’6” frame) trying to fill in for Sanders last year.  Except for Howard (Holyfield won’t stick), the Eagles have a lot of speed in the backfield.   (All the rest are sub 4.5 speedsters). 

Now the interesting thing for me is 222 lbs Howard put up 16 reps at the combine, that is WR strength and doesn’t suggest a short yardage back.  Boobie put up 20.  Nothing on Gainwell obviously.  (Only 40, short shuttle and 3 cone at his pro day).  Now Scott wasn’t invited to the Combine but check this out from his school results and pro day. Per a sleeper report I found on him, he power cleans 370, benches 425 and squatted 625.  They put up Barkley’s results for comparison.  The little guy has speed and strength.  

https://www.playerprofiler.com/article/boston-scott-advanced-stats-metrics-analytics-nfl-draft-profile/

I like Scott, his teammates seem to like him as do the coaches, maybe Siriani and Co put him in more creative situations to succeed this year.

I'm not expecting any mind blowing numbers but I think he can be a piece one can move around and have a package of plays for.

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8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

200 pound back (Gainwell) is a lot different than a 215 pound back (Sanders).  We saw some of that with Scott (203 pounds, albeit on a 5’6” frame) trying to fill in for Sanders last year.  Except for Howard (Holyfield won’t stick), the Eagles have a lot of speed in the backfield.   (All the rest are sub 4.5 speedsters). 

Now the interesting thing for me is 222 lbs Howard put up 16 reps at the combine, that is WR strength and doesn’t suggest a short yardage back.  Boobie put up 20.  Nothing on Gainwell obviously.  (Only 40, short shuttle and 3 cone at his pro day).  Now Scott wasn’t invited to the Combine but check this out from his school results and pro day. Per a sleeper report I found on him, he power cleans 370, benches 425 and squatted 625.  They put up Barkley’s results for comparison.  The little guy has speed and strength.  

https://www.playerprofiler.com/article/boston-scott-advanced-stats-metrics-analytics-nfl-draft-profile/

LeSean McCoy came out of Pitt as a lean, close to 200 lb RB.  We saw that he was easily arm tackled his rookie season.  During his first offseason, he bulked up to around 210, changed his jersey number and, voilà!, we had an every down All-Pro back. 

Also, Sanders is listed everywhere I looked as 211.

Just sayin.

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I like Scott, his teammates seem to like him as do the coaches, maybe Siriani and Co put him in more creative situations to succeed this year.

I'm not expecting any mind blowing numbers but I think he can be a piece one can move around and have a package of plays for.

I would take Nyheim Hines numbers from last year from Scott.

89 carries for 380 and 3 TD's, 63 catches for 482 and 4 TD's.

Just now, downundermike said:

I would take Nyheim Hines numbers from last year from Scott.

89 carries for 380 and 3 TD's, 63 catches for 482 and 4 TD's.

Not sure Scott will get that many catches but if sanders keeps dropping passes he might.

 I could see Scott gettingAround 350 rushing and 350 receiving,  those 7 tds Nyheim have aren't bad either.

3 hours ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Uh, we sure he died of COVID?  Sounds like he was taken to the ER for something else and happened to be diagnosed with COVID while he was there.

 

Tatum collapsed at school on August 13 and was taken to Baptist Children's Hospital, where he was diagnosed with COVID-19. Bucker said the school called her and that paramedics rushed Tatum to the hospital.

 

 

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