Minshew will start at some point this season. 

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

WTF????

Trading for Minshew is the off Broadway version of the Hurts draft pick.

I really think that Howie is overthinking the importance of the backup QB. 

Yes, it was a critical piece in 2017/2018.  But there is no need to continually over-engineer it.

I don't see the "overthinking" thing here...  it was a cheap move, and cost us little in cap or picks... Flacco is signed just for this year...  how is signing a 3rd QB on his rookie contract, with potential future use as a back-up...  and assets are assets...  I don't get it, really...

1 minute ago, Veejer said:

Well, let's keep in mind we're talking about the 4th, 5th, and maybe 6th WRs here...  and we're talking comparatively... he's just a better WR than Fulgham or JJAW, IMO...  you can move past guys when you have better guys... the discussion wasn't about re-shuffling the roster, it was about Fulgham/JJAW/Ward comparatively...

Agreed... and I am taking it in a different direction.  The real answer about comparing those 3 is like comparing a penny, a nickel and a dime when you need a dollar.  Sure, a dime is closer to a dollar, but in the end, it won't get the job done either.   This team needs to churn that bottom end of the WR depth chart.  The new PS rules allows any or all of them to be stashed there.  16 spots, 6 spots for veterans regardless of the years accrued.  4 slots for players with 2 years or less.   

1 hour ago, RLC said:

Projected 2021 Depth Chart – Game 1

Offense (25)
QB(3): Hurts, Flacco, Minshew
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Howard
TE(3): Ertz, Goedert, Jackson
WR(5): Smith, Reagor, Watkins, Fulgham, Ward
OL(10) Mailata, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson
Herbig, Dillard, Driscoll, Opeta, Clark

Defense (25)
DE(5): Barnett, Graham, Sweat, Kerrigan, Avery
DT(4): Cox, Hargrave, Williams, McGill
ILB(2): Wilson, Edwards
OLB(4): Singleton, Taylor, Bradley, Johnson
S(5): Harris, McLeod, Wallace, Epps, Adams
CB(5): Slay, Maddox, Nelson, Scott, McPhearson

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

Substitute Toth for Opeta and Clark.  Replace Fulgham with Hightower or JJAW.  

8 minutes ago, Veejer said:

Well, let's keep in mind we're talking about the 4th, 5th, and maybe 6th WRs here...  and we're talking comparatively... he's just a better WR than Fulgham or JJAW, IMO...  you can move past guys when you have better guys... the discussion wasn't about re-shuffling the roster, it was about Fulgham/JJAW/Ward comparatively...

I hated the JJAW pick more, earlier, and louder than anyone on these boards.  I don't enjoy advocating for him.  I also wanted our 2021 top 3 to be a draft pick, Reagor, and Watkins going back to last season...and I made several bets with posters that Fulgham would have less than 100 receiving yards with the Eagles in 2021.  So I'm actually fine with the current situation.

Ward, JJAW, and Fulgham are all deck chairs on the Titanic to me.  Ward exists solely because of the failures of other players.  Again, he's one of the least efficient WRs in NFL history.  He finishes his routes in the right place, catches the football, stays healthy, and fields punts when no one else can do those things.

I wouldn't want any of these guys on the field, but JJAW and Fulgham do have the theoretical ability to be in more places than just the slot, catching passes underneath coverage.  None of the 3 will get open, but 2 of the 3 do have frames to create artificial box-out separation on a forced target.

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Minshew will start at some point this season. 

You gonna give up the Foles dream now ??

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I would have been fine to go in with just 2 QBs. Not expecting to compete but needed a backup that can actually get the ball to the receivers 

exactly.  The WRs need to be developed no matter what.

Just now, downundermike said:

You gonna give up the Foles dream now ??

Never 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Agreed... and I am taking it in a different direction.  The real answer about comparing those 3 is like comparing a penny, a nickel and a dime when you need a dollar.  Sure, a dime is closer to a dollar, but in the end, it won't get the job done either.   This team needs to churn that bottom end of the WR depth chart.  The new PS rules allows any or all of them to be stashed there.  16 spots, 6 spots for veterans regardless of the years accrued.  4 slots for players with 2 years or less.   

We'll be churning with other peoples' rejects, remember...  arguing over bottom of the roster churning isn't really worth too much energy, I don't think...

Glad we're not trading for him at this moment in time.

WR has 3 players with true potential, although none of them have proven anything in the NFL.  We also probably have more draft capital sitting in WR than any other position, especially if you distill DL into separate positions (and maybe even if you do not).  As a result, despite their well-discussed draft failures, they probably have more young talent at WR than any position on the field.  

So I don't think any of us really, truly care what they do with their back of the roster WRs.

The backup situation along the OL is far more consequential.

Flacco would definitely have value to a playoff team that left camp unhappy with their back up QB, especially off this last exhibition game which showed him to be healthy (probably moved better than he has for years). He's a proven if limited commodity.

Buffalo:  Jake Fromm

Balt:  Tyler Huntley

Cle:  Kase Keenum

Indy: Sam Ehlinger

Tenn:  Logan Woodside

Minn:  Jake Browning

Rams:  John Wolford

Watson to the Dolphins is not ideal...that pick will take a big hit.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Glad we're not trading for him at this moment in time.

Im sure it will be pennies on the dollar. Fraction of the price they were asking for. 

15 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I hated the JJAW pick more, earlier, and louder than anyone on these boards.  I don't enjoy advocating for him.  I also wanted our 2021 top 3 to be a draft pick, Reagor, and Watkins going back to last season...and I made several bets with posters that Fulgham would have less than 100 receiving yards with the Eagles in 2021.  So I'm actually fine with the current situation.

Ward, JJAW, and Fulgham are all deck chairs on the Titanic to me.  Ward exists solely because of the failures of other players.  Again, he's one of the least efficient WRs in NFL history.  He finishes his routes in the right place, catches the football, stays healthy, and fields punts when no one else can do those things.

I wouldn't want any of these guys on the field, but JJAW and Fulgham do have the theoretical ability to be in more places than just the slot, catching passes underneath coverage.  None of the 3 will get open, but 2 of the 3 do have frames to create artificial box-out separation on a forced target.

All I'll say in closing is that, when given as opportunity, Ward took advantage of his... JJAW has pretty nearly squandered his, though he may well make the roster just based on where he was taken (FOs hate admitting a big miss)...  Fulgham, I think, was a flash in the pan... after his early success, he's done next to nothing once the spotlight was shone on him, in fact the spotlight has wilted him...  can Greg Ward be upgraded, sure...

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Glad we're not trading for him at this moment in time.

Interesting.  Why did Carolina make the Darnold trade if they wanted Watson ??  Don’t see the need in Miami, give Tua his shot.

Just now, Veejer said:

We'll be churning with other peoples' rejects, remember...  arguing over bottom of the roster churning isn't really worth too much energy, I don't think...

Fulgham is one of those other peoples' rejects.  Ward is an Eagles' reject that has lasted here for so long due to this team's futility at WR.  He's a retread reject dating back to 2017... we've cut and resigned him to the PS a bunch of times, and no other team has sniffed him.  Went to the AAF, and then came right back to the PS here.  JJAW is a guy that this team completely whiffed on, and is on the verge of being a reject.

Personally, I'd rather have some rejects come in here from teams that can actually find WRs, versus reshuffling the rejects from this team that can't identify WRs.  The only argument I'm making is... we know what Fulgham, Ward and JJAW are.  Stash Ward on the PS... consider Fulgham to the PS, and send JJAW away.  And replace all 3 of them with some rejects from other organizations, because at least they would bring in some new blood, if not any extra talent.   

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Glad we're not trading for him at this moment in time.

Dolphins were always the only team Watson would waive his no-trade clause for.  If there is interest in MIA that was always going to be the destination 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Watson to the Dolphins is not ideal...that pick will take a big hit.

If they trade for him, and he gets suspended, the Dolphins will be worse as the trade will likely involve Tua and Brissett is meh.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Ward exists solely because of the failures of other players.  Again, he's one of the least efficient WRs in NFL history.  He finishes his routes in the right place, catches the football, stays healthy, and fields punts when no one else can do those things.

You are being rather generous there.  Frankly, Marken Michel looked far better fielding punts than Greg Ward did last night, and all of last season.  Hard to believe he's still bouncing around... he's 28 years old.

2 minutes ago, Veejer said:

All I'll say in closing is that, when given as opportunity, Ward took advantage of his... JJAW has pretty nearly squandered his, though he may well make the roster just based on where he was taken (FOs hate admitting a big miss)...  Fulgham, I think, was a flash in the pan... after his early success, he's don't next to nothing once the spotlight was shone on him, in fat the spotlight has wilted him...  can Greg Ward be upgraded, sure...

I criticize Ward a lot because I find it unconscionable that he be top 3 in targets for an NFL team in two consecutive years.  I don't think he'd have ever made an NFL roster if not for the desperate circumstances in which he was forced onto this one.  Once there, yeah, he was better than the other options.  I'll give him athat.

If we did figure it out with WRs 1-3, then Ward as 4 is fine.  

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Flacco would definitely have value to a playoff team that left camp unhappy with their back up QB, especially off this last exhibition game which showed him to be healthy (probably moved better than he has for years). He's a proven if limited commodity.

Buffalo:  Jake Fromm

Balt:  Tyler Untley

Cle:  Kase Keenum

Indy: Sam Ehlinger

Tenn:  Logan Woodside

Minn:  Jake Browning

Rams:  John Wolford

Yeah, it's important to always think of players in terms of assets... accumulating assets is never a bad thing, unless you overpay for the asset...

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Watson to the Dolphins is not ideal...that pick will take a big hit.

Yup.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

If they trade for him, and he gets suspended, the Dolphins will be worse as the trade will likely involve Tua and Brissett is meh.

Now that's an interesting way to look at it.  

5 minutes ago, Veejer said:

All I'll say in closing is that, when given as opportunity, Ward took advantage of his... JJAW has pretty nearly squandered his, though he may well make the roster just based on where he was taken (FOs hate admitting a big miss)...  Fulgham, I think, was a flash in the pan... after his early success, he's don't next to nothing once the spotlight was shone on him, in fact the spotlight has wilted him...  can Greg Ward be upgraded, sure...

Agreed