2 hours ago, downundermike said:

You really don’t think they are looking into all of them as part of that investigation ??

 

No, because that isn't what was reported at all.  It was only one accuser.  You have been so eager in every instance of this to label everyone of these 20+ accusers as liars because Watson is good at football.  It's really disgusting.

3 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

It's the same thing we kept hearing about three years ago with Mailata. Everyone (there were a few exceptions, me included, Mattwill also) wanted the Eagles to "put Mailata on the practice squad for the year" , not realizing that this was an absolute impossibility (well, almost absolute if you want to go grammar police on me) since he would have to be waived first and he would never have cleared waivers. Another team was bound to claim him, especially since he looked halfway decent in his first couple of preseason games.

I'm not sure that Huntley would be claimed anyway, so there's a chance he ends up on the practice squad. But they can't just declare him as such. There's a protocol.

I was one of those exceptions.  You don't draft a guy like Mailata knowing he's a huge piece of unmolded clay and expose him right after investing enough to trade up for him in the draft.  He was a 2 year, minimum, roster lock unless he completely crapped the bed.  He got these mysterious 'back' injuries to get IR'd late in the season when they needed the roster slot and didn't want to expose him.  (Interesting they chose back, because that's one of the toughest injuries to prove isn't actually there.  But, I have no doubt that those were phantom injuries.)

7 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

He overset a ton. Still has no anchor. Not strong in the running game. All be it, this was against 2s and 3s. A good NFL DE would work him so bad.

I don’t remember him oversettting. I will go back and rewatch the game with the remote to slow and stop to look for that.  I thought he did well in the run game, in fact I really liked how he and Toth worked together. 

I didn't watch last night and don't care to either.

Aside from the train wreck of a RT experience, I was always happy with what I saw from Dillard at LT as a rookie (preseason and very limited regular season snaps).  

This is a passing league...and if someone has his unique athleticism and quickness kicking back into pass pro, you do your best to see through his development...especially when your current LT still has barely played the sport, weighs 350lbs, may or may not have a chronic back problem, and may or may not have some issues with speed rushers that may him a better fit at RT.

 

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They have a 1st next year and 2 in 2023

And 62 mil in cap space. The panthers would have to restructure his contract to create he cap space to add (have 40 but he’d take up a ton of it). Ditto for the eagles.

Also not sure why people think that Watson would want to come here.  I think the reason they aren't considered a finalist in this latest report is pretty telling as to which teams he is open to go to.  

6 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

It doesn't work the way you're suggesting. You just can't automatically declare a person as a practice squad player. A player has to clear waivers first, and only then can they be signed to the practice squad.

The protected player designation you're referring to is the other direction. That involves moving a player UP to the active roster for game day. In that case he gets moved back freely afterwards. But that's not the same thing. It still means that the player had to have cleared waivers at some point to have been on the practice squad in the first place.

It's the same thing we kept hearing about three years ago with Mailata. Everyone (there were a few exceptions, me included, Mattwill also) wanted the Eagles to "put Mailata on the practice squad for the year" , not realizing that this was an absolute impossibility (well, almost absolute if you want to go grammar police on me) since he would have to be waived first and he would never have cleared waivers. Another team was bound to claim him, especially since he looked halfway decent in his first couple of preseason games.

I'm not sure that Huntley would be claimed anyway, so there's a chance he ends up on the practice squad. But they can't just declare him as such. There's a protocol.

Huntley became an Eagle last year because the Eagles claimed him at the cutdown. They would know if any teams further down the waiver wire put a claim in last year.  That might give some insight if a team might claim him.  Thing is that if I were Huntley with the Eagles having Scott and Gainwell, I am not sure I would sign to their PS if another team expressed interest for their PS.  

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Just as long as he doesn’t play more than 50 percent of the snaps in three games. Howie can’t have that. 

I’d rather him play to see if he or Hurts should be the bridge QB in 2022 Incase our 1st round rookie isn’t ready 

6 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

 

It's the same thing we kept hearing about three years ago with Mailata. Everyone (there were a few exceptions, me included, Mattwill also) wanted the Eagles to "put Mailata on the practice squad for the year" , not realizing that this was an absolute impossibility (well, almost absolute if you want to go grammar police on me) since he would have to be waived first and he would never have cleared waivers. Another team was bound to claim him, especially since he looked halfway decent in his first couple of preseason games..

Being captain obvious here, but there are different type of back-of-the-roster players...there are developmental upside players and there are backup/ST players to plug in.

The backup/ST guys have a really tough time getting claimed; how likely are they to be more productive for you than a slightly inferior player of your own who spent the whole summer in your own camp learning your system?  

Upside at a premium position...teams will sign up for that whether it is March or week 3.  That's why Mailata was never safe to stash on the PS.  But RBs/LBs/TEs (Rodgers) who have been in the league for a couple years and are seemingly good enough to be on an NFL roster, they are the ones that can slip through.

 

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Also not sure why people think that Watson would want to come here.  I think the reason they aren't considered a finalist in this latest report is pretty telling as to which teams he is open to go to.  

Hasn't it already been established/rumored that he would refuse a trade here?

37 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Sunday Sep. 12		at Atlanta FalconsMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA	1:00pm ETFOX	LOSS
Sunday Sep. 19		San Francisco 49ersLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	1:00pm ETFOX	LOSS
Monday Sep. 27		at Dallas CowboysAT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX	8:15pm ETESPN	LOSS
Sunday Oct. 3		Kansas City ChiefsLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	1:00pm ETCBS	LOSS
Sunday Oct. 10		at Carolina PanthersBank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC	1:00pm ETFOX	LOSS
Thursday Oct. 14		Tampa Bay BuccaneersLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	8:20pm ETFOX/NFLN/AMAZON	LOSS
Sunday Oct. 24		at Las Vegas RaidersAllegiant Stadium, Las Vegas, NV	4:05pm ETFOX	LOSS
Sunday Oct. 31		at Detroit LionsFord Field, Detroit, MI	1:00pm ETFOX	WIN
Sunday Nov. 7		Los Angeles ChargersLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	4:05pm ETCBS	LOSS
Sunday Nov. 14		at Denver BroncosEmpower Field at Mile High, Denver, CO	4:25pm ETCBS	WIN
Sunday Nov. 21		New Orleans SaintsLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	1:00pm ETFOX	LOSS
Sunday Nov. 28		at New York GiantsMetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ	1:00pm ETFOX	LOSS
Sunday Dec. 5		at New York JetsMetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ	1:00pm ETCBS	WIN
Sunday Dec. 12		BYE
Saturday Dec. 18		Washington Football TeamLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	Time TBA ETor Sun., Dec. 19	LOSS
Sunday Dec. 26		New York GiantsLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	1:00pm ETFOX	WIN
Sunday Jan. 2		at Washington Football TeamFedExField, Landover, MD	1:00pm ETFOX	LOSS
Sunday Jan. 9		Dallas CowboysLincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA	1:00pm ETFOX	WIN

 

Gonna be a long first two months...

 

 

Falcons are worse than us and they lost Julio.  Not sure why you pegging that as a loss.  

Just now, eagle45 said:

Hasn't it already been established/rumored that he would refuse a trade here?

 

I don't think anything as been established or reported on it one way or the other.  

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Falcons are worse than us and they lost Julio.  Not sure why you pegging that as a loss.  

Rust

6 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I don’t remember him oversettting. I will go back and rewatch the game with the remote to slow and stop to look for that.  I thought he did well in the run game, in fact I really liked how he and Toth worked together. 

He didn't overset. That's just schuy7 throwing crap against the wall. He anchored. And yes, he and Toth did some nice work together.  Dillard did a number of traps and/or powers with Toth, including Gainwell's TD run. I loved, I mean loved watching Dillard and Driscoll pulling. 

This OL has a chance to be special. And deep.

Just now, eagle45 said:

Hasn't it already been established/rumored that he would refuse a trade here?

I don't think I've seen a list of places he doesn't want to go to. I've seen the ones where he prefers and the ones where they can afford to trade for him

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Huntley became an Eagle last year because the Eagles claimed him at the cutdown. They would know if any teams further down the waiver wire put a claim in last year.  That might give some insight if a team might claim him.  Thing is that if I were Huntley with the Eagles having Scott and Gainwell, I am not sure I would sign to their PS if another team expressed interest for their PS.  

Huntley is also banged up this year. Not sure if that would affect someone putting a claim on him. 
 

If Eagles were smart they would be doing majority of their cuts today. A lot of teams have games still today and tomorrow and might not be able to claim someone if they want to rest some guys and get a better look at others. 

Just now, Desertbirds said:

Rust

The Falcons have not played any starters during the preseason either. Lets just say it will be a coin flip and could turn out to be one very ugly game. 

Just now, Desertbirds said:

Rust

Plus I think Ryan wins in a shootout against Hurts

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Falcons are worse than us and they lost Julio.  Not sure why you pegging that as a loss.  

 

 

Until proven otherwise Matt Ryan is easily the better of the 2 starting QBs. That’s enough of a reason 

Just now, eagle45 said:

Hasn't it already been established/rumored that he would refuse a trade here?

I don’t think there’s an official report yet. Just speculation that it’s not his preferred destination. The only way i see it happening is if the reports are accurate the panthers and Broncos want to part of a deal now (reported by multiple beat writers of those teams). The Dolphins in negotiations for a trade decide they don’t want too. Meanwhile the eagles might be the only team at the table so it could potentially stay with Houston or go to the eagles. 

likely? No cause i think the Dolphins if they could trade for watson at a reasonable price with pick protections with the legal issues would make the move. 

7 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

It doesn't work the way you're suggesting. You just can't automatically declare a person as a practice squad player. A player has to clear waivers first, and only then can they be signed to the practice squad.

The protected player designation you're referring to is the other direction. That involves moving a player UP to the active roster for game day. In that case he gets moved back freely afterwards. But that's not the same thing. It still means that the player had to have cleared waivers at some point to have been on the practice squad in the first place.

It's the same thing we kept hearing about three years ago with Mailata. Everyone (there were a few exceptions, me included, Mattwill also) wanted the Eagles to "put Mailata on the practice squad for the year" , not realizing that this was an absolute impossibility (well, almost absolute if you want to go grammar police on me) since he would have to be waived first and he would never have cleared waivers. Another team was bound to claim him, especially since he looked halfway decent in his first couple of preseason games.

I'm not sure that Huntley would be claimed anyway, so there's a chance he ends up on the practice squad. But they can't just declare him as such. There's a protocol.

Yes, my mistake, the thought is keeping Huntley on the original 53 then when other teams rosters and PS settle one cuts him as the chances he is signed by another team at that poi t decrease.

Where as if one were to cut Howard no one is going to sign him then once rosters are settled cut Huntley then resign him to PS when there's a greater chance he goes unclaimed 

The lions cut Huntley at last cut downs hoping he would clear waivers and make it to the PS and the eagles claimed him almost immediately.

Seems the week of last cut downs is almost like another march FA period as many teams will scour the waiver wire for players to add to their team.

Huntley has a higher chance of getting claimed than Howard so why not keep Huntley cut Howard then when the free agent feeding frenzy is over bring Howard back and cut Huntley hoping teams rosters and PS are more set and he'll clear waivers.

Either way losing either isn't that big if a deal neither are going to be guys that the eagles let go and turned into all pros, and Huntley has a higher ceiling than Howard who is what he is 

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

The Falcons have not played any starters during the preseason either. Lets just say it will be a coin flip and could turn out to be one very ugly game. 

Hurts needs the reps more than Ryan does.

Will the Eagles and Falcons both be playing their starters in week 1?  It's a rebuilding season for both teams, so they may want to keep their 1's fresh.

Just now, Desertbirds said:

Hurts needs the reps more than Ryan does.

Its not just the QBs. Oline is huge when it comes to preseason reps. Recs on the same page. None have played for either team really. It is going to be ugly and hard to watch either team. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

Will the Eagles and Falcons both be playing their starters in week 1?  It's a rebuilding season for both teams, so they may want to keep their 1's fresh.

Perhaps they will rest the starters all season.

21 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

No, because that isn't what was reported at all.  It was only one accuser.  You have been so eager in every instance of this to label everyone of these 20+ accusers as liars because Watson is good at football.  It's really disgusting.

Never once called them liars, but there is questions.  And if you think the FBI wouldn’t being looking at the entire situation as part of the investigation, you are being intellectually dishonest.  Notice it says the FBI spoke with SEVERAL plaintiffs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2021/08/18/deshaun-watson-attorney-fbi-interviewed-texans-qb-extortion-allegation