55 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

When you dont have one- you basically dont have a shot at winning it all. So.... 

When you don’t have a team good enough it doesn’t matter if you have any of these guys. They still give you no shot. Is Watson or Wilson winning a SB anytime soon? Don’t think so. Frankly I wouldn’t mind if Roseman traded down again for picks in the 2023 draft to load up for a chance at a 2023 quarterback than waste capital and caps space on any of these available quarterbacks. They aren’t enough to get us over. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And with the rest of the roster we wouldn't have a shot with one. 

Watson won four games the last time he played quarterback. The Seahawks haven’t won a Super Bowl since they lost the Legion of Boom, and Rodgers has only won one to this point. Seems like you need more than just a quarterback to win a Bowl to me.

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Watson won four games the last time he played quarterback. The Seahawks haven’t won a Super Bowl since they lost the Legion of Boom, and Rodgers has only won one to this point. Seems like you need more than just a quarterback to win a Bowl to me.

The Chiefs and Bucs are stacked with talent on both sides. The Chargers have a lot of talent. The Colts have more talent than us. You absolutely need more than just a franchise QB.

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The Chiefs and Bucs are stacked with talent on both sides. The Chargers have a lot of talent. The Colts have more talent than us. You absolutely need more than just a franchise QB.

The funny part here is people are implying the Eagles let a Franchise quarterback go. Meanwhile the dude is basically a 30mil a year game manager handing the ball off and they’re upset about it. Nah I’ll take the picks, and cap space over the game manager, because the Eagles have a lot of holes to fill and getting another quarterback in here will do nothing to improve their chances of winning a Super Bowl right now either. If they’re going to get a quarterback I’d rather it be a young one they can develop. Of course they’re already trying to do that now. 

7 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

When you don’t have a team good enough it doesn’t matter if you have any of these guys. They still give you no shot. Is Watson or Wilson winning a SB anytime soon? Don’t think so. Frankly I wouldn’t mind if Roseman traded down again for picks in the 2023 draft to load up for a chance at a 2023 quarterback than waste capital and caps space on any of these available quarterbacks. They aren’t enough to get us over. 

agreed. its a waste to try for any of those qbs. if the team was solid elsewhere i'd think about rogers, but it isn't so wasting time on those is not wise. 

trade down and try to get other roster help while loading up for 2023. 

35 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Hyperbole much?  Worst ever??   Worse than Arcega-Whiteside?  Sidney Jones?  Come on. 

Wentz is mentally and physically deficient.  Indy is winning despite him, not because of him.  The Eagles are clearly better off without him (which is why they are without him). Addition by subtraction. 

Well it is obvious to anyone that Hurts is a lot worse than players like Jaiquawn Jarrett, Matt McCoy, and Quinton Carver.

5 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

agreed. its a waste to try for any of those qbs. if the team was solid elsewhere i'd think about rogers, but it isn't so wasting time on those is not wise. 

trade down and try to get other roster help while loading up for 2023. 

Even if this team makes the playoffs right now they don’t have a real shot to do anything. Some of the things this defense is allowing competent to good quarterbacks to do against them is record breaking. The offense basically has two viable targets and that’s it. The offensive line is probably the only solid group on the team. Way too many holes to fill right now. 

21 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah game manager Carson is in the playoffs with a better football team and handing the ball to the best back in the game unlike what he had last year. Frankly if Game manager Carson were with the Eagles this year he’d be completing less than 60% of his passes and winning 3 games again just like 2020 and he would be doing it at nearly 30 mil a clip. What happens if Hurts makes the playoffs with a team you god couldn’t win with? Will you show him respect? I doubt it, because winning actually isn’t important to you. Fake Wentz stats are like those 42 touchdowns that didn’t happen 4 years ago, meanwhile you completely ignore what happened last year. 😂

And all you can talk about is 2020.  You DON'T know that Wentz here this year would have been a replay of 2020. Better less injured O line, probably better coaching staff, at least one good receiver. I'm not one of your "beanbaggers" by the way, I'm well aware of Wentz' shortcomings. Wentz said he modeled his game after Favre and made no secret of it hence the 'hero ball'. Favre didn't play 'hero ball'? He may have been better at it but he failed enough times too. Check Favre's TD/Int ratio. Lurie and Roseman should have known  when they interviewed him pre draft.

14 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

And all you can talk about is 2020.  You DON'T know that Wentz here this year would have been a replay of 2020. Better less injured O line, probably better coaching staff, at least one good receiver. I'm not one of your "beanbaggers" by the way, I'm well aware of Wentz' shortcomings. Wentz said he modeled his game after Favre and made no secret of it hence the 'hero ball'. Lurie and Roseman should have known  when they interviewed him pre draft. Favre didn't play 'hero ball'? He may have been better at it but he failed enough times too. Check Favre's TD/Int ratio.

Wentz 2021 hands the ball off to the best back in the game. You guys cream your pants over it, but have a conniption when Hurts basically does the same thing with lesser talent and for 26 mil less. You want to cry over Wentz knock yourself out, but he ain’t coming back and I don’t want him to. Furthermore the Eagles have been in decline with Wentz as their quarterback for years. That’s why everyone for over four years now have been trashing everyone but him. Do I think Wentz on this team makes the Eagles more than what they are right now? No I do not. In fact the only thing that would be different is the people who now act like the Eagles have some kind of elite offensive talent would be back to saying the Eagles have no talent in their exhausting defenses of Wentz. Furthermore if Wentz is like Favre does that make you happy? Not sure why considering the dude won one SB so if Wentz is Favre his use is already expired. Carson Wentz is three games over .500 as the Eagles quarterback and you all act like he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. 🙄

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

 Furthermore if Wentz is like Favre does that make you happy? Not sure why considering the dude won one SB so if Wentz is Favre his use is already expired. 

No, I was not a fan of Favre's style of play like I'm not a fan of Lamar Jackson's style of play. That style of play is entertaining - didn't most people enjoy Favre's and Jackson's escapades? They don't seem to wear well post season - or against good teams in season.

8 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

No, I was not a fan of Favre's style of play like I'm not a fan of Lamar Jackson's style of play. That style of play is entertaining - didn't most people enjoy Favre's and Jackson's escapades? They don't seem to wear well post season - or against good teams in season.

And Wentz did were the post season well!?! 35-32-1. Hate to break it to you bud, but Wentz didn’t wear the regular season all that well either. 

4 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

hyperboling  ?  lmao, settle down sparky. obviously there are other horrible picks, so it seems weird you don't get how the word "could" opens up the discussion ? FFS you ever bolded the word and still came at me with that nonsense. 

obviously you dont like wentz which is fine, but stop acting like "he" was the only issue. the biggest issue is still here and IMO, no the team is not better off right now. again, unless the team finds better, this whole thing has been a failure caused by the front office. 

 

 

 

I was high on Wentz when they drafted him - although the small college pedigree was somewhat concerning - and absolutely give him credit for getting them to the cusp of the Super Bowl.  But then he fell apart.  Maybe it was Foles becoming a folk hero, maybe he wasn't the same after his injuries. But he was a bad teammate, refused to be coached and the Eagles STILL gave him that absurd contract.  He wasn't the only issue but he was also given every opportunity to succeed here and failed so miserably they had to eat his contract just to get rid of him.

So now he's in a different system with his mentor Frank Reich.  How's that going? He threw for 57 yards last weekend.  57 yards.   The week before that he threw for 108 yards against one of the worst teams in the league.  For $35 million a year.  No, I'll stick with Hurts, Minshew and 3 first round draft picks, thank you very much. 

4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

And Wentz did were the post season well!?! 35-32-1. Hate to break it to you bud, but Wentz didn’t wear the regular season all that well either. 

Never mentioned Wentz except peripherally. Just saying that style of play has not proven productive against good teams - which most post season teams are. Fun to watch the Houdini acts though, be it 2017 Wentz, Favre or Jackson. I'm sure there are more but those come immediately to mind - and one Super Bowl win between them.

25 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Never mentioned Wentz except peripherally. Just saying that style of play has not proven productive against good teams - which most post season teams are. Fun to watch the Houdini acts though, be it 2017 Wentz, Favre or Jackson. I'm sure there are more but those come immediately to mind - and one Super Bowl win between them.

We winning the SB short of having Brady as your quarterback isn’t exactly easily done either. For a decade Peyton Manning was the premier quarterback and he really didn’t get over the hump until the team ran the ball and he had a superior defense with the Broncos. Meanwhile Eli Manning is basically a game manager and he has two rings. When it comes down to it the key to winning is more than just having a great quarterback. The last thing anyone should be talking about in regards to a Super Bowl with the Eagles is quarterback, because they aren’t just a quarterback away from one. 

7 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

We winning the SB short of having Brady as your quarterback isn’t exactly easily done either. For a decade Peyton Manning was the premier quarterback and he really didn’t get over the hump until the team ran the ball and he had a superior defense with the Broncos. Meanwhile Eli Manning is basically a game manager and he has two rings. When it comes down to it the key to winning is more than just having a great quarterback. The last thing anyone should be talking about in regards to a Super Bowl with the Eagles is quarterback, because they aren’t just a quarterback away from one. 

True, having a Peyton Manning doesn't guarantee a Super Bowl. A Quarterback who is subpar - careless with the ball - poor passing skills pretty much guarantees a team won't be competitive in the post season. Yes a team can run the ball to minimize the impact of a bad quarterback but there are limits against good defenses. Shut down the run and force a poor passing QB to beat them with his arm. A time proven technique.

3 hours ago, eglz1 said:

True, having a Peyton Manning doesn't guarantee a Super Bowl. A Quarterback who is subpar - careless with the ball - poor passing skills pretty much guarantees a team won't be competitive in the post season. Yes a team can run the ball to minimize the impact of a bad quarterback but there are limits against good defenses. Shut down the run and force a poor passing QB to beat them with his arm. A time proven technique.

Yeah and if Manning were throwing to Reagor and not Marvin Harrison or Teggie Wayne I’m sure he would’ve won the Super Bowl too. 

Remember when all these "Wentz fans” thought he was so petty and weak minded that he would fake an injury (colluding with the Colts) to stick it to the Eagles over that first? 😂🤣😂 Good times! 

36 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah and if Manning were throwing to Reagor and not Marvin Harrison or Teggie Wayne I’m sure he would’ve won the Super Bowl too. 

Manning was 3-13 in his first year.  Just sayin’.

On 12/21/2021 at 4:43 PM, EazyEaglez said:

Remember when all these "Wentz fans” thought he was so petty and weak minded that he would fake an injury (colluding with the Colts) to stick it to the Eagles over that first? 😂🤣😂 Good times! 

Was always such a bizarre take for me to read lol 

On 12/21/2021 at 1:50 PM, eglz1 said:

Never mentioned Wentz except peripherally. Just saying that style of play has not proven productive against good teams - which most post season teams are. Fun to watch the Houdini acts though, be it 2017 Wentz, Favre or Jackson. I'm sure there are more but those come immediately to mind - and one Super Bowl win between them.

The guy is obsessed with Wentz. It’s hilarious 

On 12/21/2021 at 3:43 PM, EazyEaglez said:

Remember when all these "Wentz fans” thought he was so petty and weak minded that he would fake an injury (colluding with the Colts) to stick it to the Eagles over that first? 😂🤣😂 Good times! 

Eagles have the Colts first, yet you can’t stop talking about him

3 hours ago, downundermike said:

Eagles have the Colts first, yet you can’t stop talking about him

Perhaps you read my comment wrong. It wasn’t about him. 😂🤣😂

Colts are putting together a good season. 6-1 since Halloween. Beat 3 good teams during that stretch. 

11 hours ago, downundermike said:

Eagles have the Colts first, yet you can’t stop talking about him

And I was told Wentz was just a game manager now. Yep he managed pretty well with one starting lineman playing and starting tight end out  

Damn Wentz and one of his best seasons ever